Larry Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Does anyone have the latest news on when the train connection to Suvannahpum will be completed, and where it will go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Theoretically end this year, practically early - mid next year, SRT keep asking for (and getting) extensions of time. It will go to Swampy Airport, station is under the terminal Express Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) Commuter Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Lad Krabang - Thub Chang - Hua Mark - Ramkhamhaeng - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) - Ratchaprarop - Phayathai (interchange with BTS Sukhumvit Line (Phayathai Station)) Edited January 14, 2009 by Crossy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southerndown Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Theoretically end this year, practically early - mid next year, SRT keep asking for (and getting) extensions of time.It will go to Swampy Airport, station is under the terminal Express Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) Commuter Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Lad Krabang - Thub Chang - Hua Mark - Ramkhamhaeng - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) - Ratchaprarop - Phayathai (interchange with BTS Sukhumvit Line (Phayathai Station)) A good responsible reply Why can't all thaivisa replies be helpful and informative. why do so many posters have to flame, be rude and seem always to misunderstand the most basic of poinys being raised in discussion. "If I don't agree. If I don't really understand - then I will flame" seems a common mantra here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Theoretically end this year, practically early - mid next year, SRT keep asking for (and getting) extensions of time.It will go to Swampy Airport, station is under the terminal Express Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) Commuter Service Suvarnabhumi Airport - Lad Krabang - Thub Chang - Hua Mark - Ramkhamhaeng - Makkasan (City Air Terminal - interchange with MRT Blue Line (Phetchaburi Station)) - Ratchaprarop - Phayathai (interchange with BTS Sukhumvit Line (Phayathai Station)) A good responsible reply Why can't all thaivisa replies be helpful and informative. why do so many posters have to flame, be rude and seem always to misunderstand the most basic of poinys being raised in discussion. "If I don't agree. If I don't really understand - then I will flame" seems a common mantra here. You need to differentiate between the general forum and specific topics. The general forum is a free for all. Anyways, regarding this topic - it appears they have gone the cheap route for powering the trains via overhead cables unlike say the BTS. Will this result in more breakdowns? Oops - missed my flight. Certainly will be higher maintenence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Anyways, regarding this topic - it appears they have gone the cheap route for powering the trains via overhead cables unlike say the BTS.Will this result in more breakdowns? Oops - missed my flight. Certainly will be higher maintenence. No problem, the line uses 25kV AC overhead as it is a high speed (160kph) railway. 3rd rail 750V DC is great for low speed stop-start metros but over about 100kph can become problematic due to the high-current sliding contact. Just look at TGV, ICE, Eurostar, Shinkansen etc., all use overhead AC current collection and are very reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Not less than one year from now. Maybe 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Anyways, regarding this topic - it appears they have gone the cheap route for powering the trains via overhead cables unlike say the BTS.Will this result in more breakdowns? Oops - missed my flight. Certainly will be higher maintenence. No problem, the line uses 25kV AC overhead as it is a high speed (160kph) railway. 3rd rail 750V DC is great for low speed stop-start metros but over about 100kph can become problematic due to the high-current sliding contact. Just look at TGV, ICE, Eurostar, Shinkansen etc., all use overhead AC current collection and are very reliable so the new train will compare favourably to those you mention in terms of quality, ongoing maintenence? let's see. anyways, was talking to a GM of a hotel last night near the makasan station and he reassures me that there will be seperate direct trains (express) to / from the airport in 15 mins!!! and others that do the milk-run. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 so the new train will compare favourably to those you mention in terms of quality, ongoing maintenence? let's see.anyways, was talking to a GM of a hotel last night near the makasan station and he reassures me that there will be seperate direct trains (express) to / from the airport in 15 mins!!! and others that do the milk-run. Good to know. Initial quality should not be an issue, being supplied by Siemens (although there will always be teething troubles). Ongoing maintenance we will most definately see but I believe Siemens will be providing for at least 3 years. First train moved on the ARL on January 18th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheMook Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 will be a great addition to Bkk's infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colte Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I just hope they have sufficient elevator capacity for passengers with baggage to get to/from the extremely high platforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclub75 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Theoretically end this year, practically early - mid next year, SRT keep asking for (and getting) extensions of time. For once, I would be much more optimistic ! On my way to Suva monday afternoon... I saw the train (3 coaches, white color with some dark blue) running on the line. Edited January 21, 2009 by cclub75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 9 mo trial runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) On my way to Suva monday afternoon... I saw the train (3 coaches, white color with some dark blue) running on the line. Yup, one train has run all the way from Makkasan to Swampy and back under manual control. Wow! Expect at least 6 months of trial running before we see any form of (safe) live service, few of the technical systems are in place at this time. They may be aiming for a soft opening on the King's birthday. Edited January 22, 2009 by Crossy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parki Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 There's announcement that the official opening date is August 12, 2009 = "The MOTHER Day" Siemens had started their test run on 19th this month Here's the urls with pictures - I cannot post url - try google arl rotfaithai(dot)com or in the forum of 2bangkok.com in the test run, the train has made a new record for the the fastest train running in Thailand at 160 km/h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game4shame Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 will be sweet when this is complete. no more ar5ehole soo-wanna-poom taxi drivers claiming the meter broke halfway through the journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Except that it terminates in a spot that's not very convenient to anywhere so we'll probably still need a ride to the hotel if we have luggage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Except that it terminates in a spot that's not very convenient to anywhere so we'll probably still need a ride to the hotel if we have luggage... Interchange with MRT! How much more convenient do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asanee Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Interchange with MRT! How much more convenient do you need? The expres trains are meant to run NONstop to makkasan. and Makkasan (chosen because there was enough land owned by the SRT) is out of use for most-the combo of train+taxi (do you really think there will be no taxi'problems from there=just the same as at any trainstation)-will take more time and cost more as a taximeter right away. Only the stoping trains-rumourd to styart later-as most underway stations wont be finished-serve both MRT and BTS. The MRT is of hardly nay use for most nornal tourist destinationsunless you fancu another change to the BTS at Asoke=going up to street-going up again-to skytrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardandtubs Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Interchange with MRT! How much more convenient do you need? The expres trains are meant to run NONstop to makkasan. and Makkasan (chosen because there was enough land owned by the SRT) is out of use for most-the combo of train+taxi (do you really think there will be no taxi'problems from there=just the same as at any trainstation)-will take more time and cost more as a taximeter right away. Only the stoping trains-rumourd to styart later-as most underway stations wont be finished-serve both MRT and BTS. The MRT is of hardly nay use for most nornal tourist destinationsunless you fancu another change to the BTS at Asoke=going up to street-going up again-to skytrain At Makkasan you interchange with MRT at Phetchaburi Station. Of course the train won't take you directly from the airport to your hotel but what airport train in the world does that? You don't have to go on to any street to change from MRT Sukhumvit to BTS Asok. Edited February 8, 2009 by edwardandtubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I see the 'City' service getting more use FROM the airport, much more convenient transfer to BTS at Phaya tai (not the 500m walk to the MRT from Makkasan). Going TO the airport the biggest plus is being able to dump your bags early at the City Air Terminal before going for a last minute shop or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Except that it terminates in a spot that's not very convenient to anywhere so we'll probably still need a ride to the hotel if we have luggage... Interchange with MRT! How much more convenient do you need? With luggage, the MRT is not very convenient. Dragging luggage up Sukhumwit isn't very convenient either. Hopefully there will be plenty of taxis willing to drive the short distance from Makkasan. For me, I think a taxi from the airport will remain the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Except that it terminates in a spot that's not very convenient to anywhere so we'll probably still need a ride to the hotel if we have luggage... Interchange with MRT! How much more convenient do you need? for one, how do you plan to get your luggage on and off the mrt - besides carry on that is, and with the security checks at each entrance, i look forward to standing behind you while they search through your suitcase full of underwear to find the metal zipper on your bluejeans that set off the metal detectors. enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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