Sondhi's Son Alleges "gestapo" Behind His Father's Assassination Attempt

[HagenvonTronje]

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With his driver incapacitated I would imagine, someone could have shot cleanly through the side windows and shot him clean. Or did his body guards in the mysterious back up car that no one wants to discuss, fire 80 shots in defence?

that's is an interesting theory. and to conform with the requirements of the SoE the bodyguard just fired into the air. so there is no need to scrutinize the armed guards any further.

a second theory - so many shots and bullets fired but nobody dead. who is able to do that?

[animatic]

The guy who brought up the case Khun Samak cooked was safe. Later on he brought up the case Newin hugged Abhisit, he was questioned and was in a little trouble.

Same as in this forum. People have different view with someone are questioned.

Back to your standard style I see.

No one wrote a rebuttle for you?

[Thai at Heart]

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With his driver incapacitated I would imagine, someone could have shot cleanly through the side windows and shot him clean. Or did his body guards in the mysterious back up car that no one wants to discuss, fire 80 shots in defence?

that's is an interesting theory. and to conform with the requirements of the SoE the bodyguard just fired into the air. so there is no need to scrutinize the armed guards any further.

a second theory - so many shots and bullets fired but nobody dead. who is able to do that?

So the body guards shot in the air whilst their boss was being shot at? I am not scrutinizing them at all. The only way they could have missed is for them to try to miss.

[plachon]

Sondhi is involved in a big game. Someone commented on tv that they shot but did not want to kill him.

Lesson of the day: politics is not a nice game. Some politicians in my areas are almost broke after spending money for elections. They now make money by other means. They join politics wanting their family names to be famous. They and their competitors all bought votes but competitors had proof and they don't. Competitors were in power last time. Now they found proof and competitors will be judged 2 days after this week's election. Competitors said new face is puppet of the old ones.

In the past, a politician was shot at home. Another one shot 6 people but managed to get away with that. Money speaks louder than facts.

Starter for 10 Koo: Since 2000, whose money has spoken louder than any other politician, leading to the breakdown in countless institutions, deep divisions in the country and virtual civil war in April 2009?

And please be more specific about which politicians bought votes, who are these "competitors" and what "other means" they make money by. Surely these can't be state secrets, dearie.

[HagenvonTronje]

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With his driver incapacitated I would imagine, someone could have shot cleanly through the side windows and shot him clean. Or did his body guards in the mysterious back up car that no one wants to discuss, fire 80 shots in defence?

that's is an interesting theory. and to conform with the requirements of the SoE the bodyguard just fired into the air. so there is no need to scrutinize the armed guards any further.

a second theory - so many shots and bullets fired but nobody dead. who is able to do that?

So the body guards shot in the air whilst their boss was being shot at? I am not scrutinizing them at all. The only way they could have missed is for them to try to miss.

to narrow down the supects you must stay focussed on the fact: nobody died.

everybody wouldn't have missed if he sprayed bullets for 5 minutes all over the car. but this time i didn't happen, why? because jupiter and the moon and some other starlight did last week something special where the starwatchers wank about all excited. and that was all good and helped Abhisit. so with the jupiter and the moon and whatever above in the sky, when Abhisit says war weapons don't kill people if the dem's let soldiers fire at protestors at songkran.

yeah and it didn't happen. that why there was also the extension of sonkran with two more days. just to make sure that bullets from soldiers don't kill people.

ask Thanong from the Nation, he knows all about that, about jupiter and how good abhisit is to the people and so on. but if you not thai you will not understand.

that narrows the suspects down to one group - soldiers. why? soldiers don't kill people. that was allover the news, in the main media. everybody knows that.

okay, there is a small flaw in the theory, the two additional holidays. it's unclear if the moon and jupiter also followed that order.

but there is a second group in thailand, that is even more blessed, they never ever killed anybody. they are like jesus ghandi. armed, martial, shoting, beating yes, but never kill, not even one. not even like that one unlucky guy who died at sanam luang. no- this group has skills in total zero kills. they could spray bullets for hours. and would kill nobody.

more will come later.

[sriracha john]

Back in the day, it was usually at this sort of time that permanent_disorder would include a lengthy, rambling post resplendent with photos of Sondhi and Hitler juxtaposed...

[HagenvonTronje]

The guy who brought up the case Khun Samak cooked was safe. Later on he brought up the case Newin hugged Abhisit, he was questioned and was in a little trouble.

Same as in this forum. People have different view with someone are questioned.

koo, that was thaksins fault. the samak fall. thaksin just had betrayed samak . and did evil plans together with Chalerm and put somchai in office instead like promised to samak. poor samak. that is what at least Newin said a couple of days ago. samak was just another victim of thaksin just as kasit, sondhi , , 2500 something in spring 2003, cynthia, lydia, michaela, daniela, cornelia, veronica and chamlong srimong and the nation, all good thai people at all.

newin is building up new connections and reconnect other. just like the senior citizen samak and that other very important seniar citizen who was not involved in the coup, so no reason to protest in front of his residence. thats amazing, given the fact that newin did a litlle bit jail time during the junta. and he hold samak into the boat as well. remeber the headline Newin didn't visit that very important seniar citizen who was not involved in the coup, so no reason to protest in front of his residence.

newin must have also done a deal with the people behind PAD, and the ones that supported the PAD logistical and strategical with man- and professional fight power.

sondhi was the useful lunatice but isn't needed anymore. and to make sure that the lunatic get the message he got the message.

[Thai at Heart]

to narrow down the supects you must stay focussed on the fact: nobody died.

everybody wouldn't have missed if he sprayed bullets for 5 minutes all over the car. but this time i didn't happen, why? because jupiter and the moon and some other starlight did last week something special where the starwatchers wank about all excited. and that was all good and helped Abhisit. so with the jupiter and the moon and whatever above in the sky, when Abhisit says war weapons don't kill people if the dem's let soldiers fire at protestors at songkran.

yeah and it didn't happen. that why there was also the extension of sonkran with two more days. just to make sure that bullets from soldiers don't kill people.

ask Thanong from the Nation, he knows all about that, about jupiter and how good abhisit is to the people and so on. but if you not thai you will not understand.

that narrows the suspects down to one group - soldiers. why? soldiers don't kill people. that was allover the news, in the main media. everybody knows that.

okay, there is a small flaw in the theory, the two additional holidays. it's unclear if the moon and jupiter also followed that order.

but there is a second group in thailand, that is even more blessed, they never ever killed anybody. they are like jesus ghandi. armed, martial, shoting, beating yes, but never kill, not even one. not even like that one unlucky guy who died at sanam luang. no- this group has skills in total zero kills. they could spray bullets for hours. and would kill nobody.

more will come later.

Please do enlighten me

[stumonster]

so many shots and bullets fired but nobody dead. who is able to do that?

Hollywood ?

another theory - so many posts and quotes , but nobody enlightened. who is able to do that ?

[TAWP]

Please provide any source that says the car was hit with 100 bullets.

You are reading too much into the number of shells found.

And it's making you draw incorrect assumptions on the events that took place.

Well then who were they firing the so called 86 or 100 bullets at for 5 minutes? Are we to believe that they were so incompetent that out of the 80 shots, only a small percentage hit the car from a few yards away. That only enhances the idea that they were scaring him. Just about every man in the country has done national service, so they know more than rudimentally how to fire an army weapon. I have never fired a machine gun but I reckon I could the side of a barn door at 10 yards.

But then for a hit, why would you hire people who can only rudamentally hit something?

The only substantial fact is that they shot his driver in supposedly 5 minutes of firing. It only takes a few seconds to fire in the side window and shoot the back passengers in the head. The vast majority were fired through the windscreen it appeared from pictures, which with engines, car parts, seats and most unfortunately his body guards would deflect and stop a lot of the bullets. Believe me, I saw the hit that went on in Khon Kaen against a foreign accountant up here about 10 years ago. 10 shots into the body of the van from the side and he was gone. But 50 shots into an engine block, and none of them would go through.

With his driver incapacitated I would imagine, someone could have shot cleanly through the side windows and shot him clean. Or did his body guards in the mysterious back up car that no one wants to discuss, fire 80 shots in defence?

Congratulations on making arguments based on non-facts.

Anyone that believe the attack [i.e. shooting itself] took 5 minutes needs to have their head examined.

That, even at 100 shot's, would also lead to a firing rate of one shot every 3 seconds!

On the other hand, as an AK-47 has a ROF of around 600rpm. With a standard clip of 30 rounds and a reload-time of no more than 2.5sec [if an experienced operator], and assuming one ONE person was firing all of these rounds, it would take a minimum of 3s+2.5s+3s+2.5s+3s+2.5s+1s (10 bullets from 4th clip only, to reach a total of 100 fired), 17.5 seconds.

But as the attackers where several in numbers, 2-3 shooters(?) we can safely assume that the attack was probably over in less than 30 seconds. And that might include shots being fired while in motion and part of the chase away from the scene.

[HagenvonTronje]

Please provide any source that says the car was hit with 100 bullets.

And it's making you draw incorrect assumptions on the events that took place.

Well then who were they firing the so called 86 or 100 bullets at for 5 minutes? Are we to believe that they were so incompetent that out of the 80 shots, only a small percentage hit the car from a few yards away. That only enhances the idea that they were scaring him. Just about every man in the country has done national service, so they know more than rudimentally how to fire an army weapon. I have never fired a machine gun but I reckon I could the side of a barn door at 10 yards.

But then for a hit, why would you hire people who can only rudamentally hit something?

The only substantial fact is that they shot his driver in supposedly 5 minutes of firing. It only takes a few seconds to fire in the side window and shoot the back passengers in the head. The vast majority were fired through the windscreen it appeared from pictures, which with engines, car parts, seats and most unfortunately his body guards would deflect and stop a lot of the bullets. Believe me, I saw the hit that went on in Khon Kaen against a foreign accountant up here about 10 years ago. 10 shots into the body of the van from the side and he was gone. But 50 shots into an engine block, and none of them would go through.

With his driver incapacitated I would imagine, someone could have shot cleanly through the side windows and shot him clean. Or did his body guards in the mysterious back up car that no one wants to discuss, fire 80 shots in defence?

Congratulations on making arguments based on non-facts.

Anyone that believe the attack [i.e. shooting itself] took 5 minutes needs to have their head examined.

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TWAP, do you have a beef with Thai at Heart as well? there are so much assumptions based on total nonsense and fantasy on this topic, why jump on this entry. and unlike others, this is one of the few, he could back up with local media reports.

those non-facts based on the reports of that glorious "newspaper" The Nation. not all people get it that this is just a daily funny mag. and yeah, the Nation had all this silly facts above, one needs to have the head examinated when he publish something like this in the newspaper without ponting out how silly is that. except when that publishing organ is a funny mag. they print jokes. and i think that Thai at Heart intentions is to demonstrate that to us and just had fun with repeating that jokes.

TWAP, you don't follow that much what is written in the local english press, or don't read them at all, right? if you don't do - you miss a lot.

[TAWP]

Yawn, P_D, go away.