harrry Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) It is much much better if he fixes it rather than gets caught. I think it will take the 40000 baht I mentioned and a flexible airfare but if he uses this route he has few lasting consequences and his forgery will probably remain unnoticed. Remember to tell him to dress well and to be polite in court, it may lesson the fine and the need to stay in detention until the plane leaves. Edited April 27, 2009 by harrry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surayu Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 From which E.U. country your friend is coming from?In any case, he should just report his passport as lost or stolen; then, following his own embassy rules, he will have -or not- to provide a police report. This is not a big deal, just go to Khaosan police station; everyday dozen of people are queuing for an official "stolen" report. Apply for a new passport, which mostly will be a temporary one (same day). In any case (unless crime!) embassy will not report to local police. Make sure to have a valid & flexible one-way ticket (back home) and THB 20,000 within the next few days. Contact a lawyer, to my knowledge, Sunbelt who sponsors this forum has proven facts dealing with immigration for such matter. Let the lawyer do the job, it might takes longer in case of police background checking. Stay away of any trouble until receive "green light" from the lawyer. Hope it helps. But please tell him not to do it again... From my current experience i would strongly disagree with the choice of the legal service, how can you trust someone that just take off any legal responsability from the work they will provide you with? If anything they do for you is either invalid or not legal they will just ask you to take all responsability by yourself and say you should have know what you where doing! what's the point in hiring a company acting on this way? better you do all the job by yourself without throwing away money or find a serious company, by making them notice their faults they will just came up to you in a way like if they cannot understand of what are you talking about..... don't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2274 Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 One last time, after I give up: 1st. Find money: for passport (temporary is cheap THB 1,000); for overstay (THB 20,000); for a cheap one-way ticket (?) & for lawyers (?) but he will need them. Without that money in front (I would say $1,500) better not do any move! 2nd. Apply for a new travel document at the embassy, they might deliver a new one. But mostly that will be a temporary pass... 3rd. Wait & let lawyers do their job Good luck to your friend I don't know where you get your prices from, a temporary passport for 1000baht hahahaha here are the prices Passport fees Current application fees for renewing and replacing passports: 32 page passport £119 32 page child (under 16) passport £76 48 page ‘jumbo’ passport £144 Emergency passport £55.50 Temporary passport £70.50 A lawyer costs money, money that he does not have, the only way he can do this, as I see it, is to report his passport as washed, try and get a new one from the embassy, then get out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulrahman Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 As with most or all Condo owners, I do not think that he registered my friend.My friend does not have that much money, I personally think that if he gets caught he will go into the Detention Centre, and stay there for a while until someone comes up with the money for his fine and onward ticket, plus his accommodation charge at the detention centre and also the taxi to the Airport. Then upon landing in his home country I think he will be arrested for falsifying a legal document i.e. The passport. The thing is he does not believe it will happen to him, and unlike others he does not hide he goes out gets drunk and is abusive to everyone, one day it will catch up with him. Oh and he also used the false passport details to register his baby As said already by many posters,he must cough up the money(2,5K Euros?5K is better)and with luck,help,a friendly Embassy,he can do it. Or he can leave Thailand on the sly and forget the Country,forever.Bars,bargirls,job,all! It's his choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Getting a new passport (or a temporary one) and just flying out paying the 20,000 Baht is NOT an option for him. If you get a new passport there will be no immigration stamps in it. Everybody getting a new passport will need to transfer the old stamps over into his new passport before leaving the country, and this has to be done at immigration, not at the border control at the airport! No way immigration will transfer his old stamps into his passport (showing a 3 year overstay) and then let him walk out, take a cab to the airport and fly out! Once he walks into immigration he will have to go through the process of court, fine and deportation. It might be possible if you can show both your old passport (with stamps) and the new one while leaving Thailand, but due to him fiddling with the old this is not an option either! Plus due to the length of his overstay, it will depend on the mood of the officer to accept 20,000 Baht and let him move on, or to arrest him and initiate the police background check to see if he has a criminal past in Thailand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 No way immigration will transfer his old stamps into his passport (showing a 3 year overstay) and then let him walk out, take a cab to the airport and fly out! Once he walks into immigration he will have to go through the process of court, fine and deportation. If he does it correctly with the appropriate help it is not certain he will be deported. He will be required to leave THailand and escorted to the plane but thatt s not formal depeortation, It all depends on how well he presents himself in court. If he gets caught though jail and deportation are certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Everybody getting a new passport will need to transfer the old stamps over into his new passport before leaving the country, and this has to be done at immigration, not at the border control at the airport!No way immigration will transfer his old stamps into his passport (showing a 3 year overstay) and then let him walk out, take a cab to the airport and fly out! Once he walks into immigration he will have to go through the process of court, fine and deportation. It might be possible if you can show both your old passport (with stamps) and the new one while leaving Thailand, but due to him fiddling with the old this is not an option either! Okay so he needs to preserve the critical part of his pp, so consider this option. He tears the offending page out of his passport plus a couple of others for good measure but NOT the one with his entry stamp and roughs the passport up a bit. Then he reports that he met this girl in a bar and she came back to his condo for a wild night of passion. In the morning she started getting shirty demanding extrotionate amounts of money which he refused. In a fit of pique she grabbed his passport and started ripping pages out and throwing them out of the 14th floor balcony. He managed to rescue the pp but not before the critical page had wafted away on the breeze. All he knows of her is that she is called Nok, is about 5' 6" tall, 110 pounds, long black hair etc etc. Then he gets a new passport but still retains the remnants of the old one and makes his way to the airport and hopes that the immigration will be satisfied with the 20k. Crazy scheme I know and if rumbled he gets shafted but when you are that deep in the sh1t any deeper makes little or no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beacher Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 As with most or all Condo owners, I do not think that he registered my friend.My friend does not have that much money, I personally think that if he gets caught he will go into the Detention Centre, and stay there for a while until someone comes up with the money for his fine and onward ticket, plus his accommodation charge at the detention centre and also the taxi to the Airport. Then upon landing in his home country I think he will be arrested for falsifying a legal document i.e. The passport. The thing is he does not believe it will happen to him, and unlike others he does not hide he goes out gets drunk and is abusive to everyone, one day it will catch up with him. Oh and he also used the false passport details to register his baby Wow, an idiot and an a**hole all wrapped up in one package. I neither offer advice nor feel any sympathy for someone like this. Fortunately, it sounds like he is going to be screwed from every angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The person mentioned in the OP has several problems and it is not the typical overstay we see topics on. I am a little lost by all this talk of detention and a police check. It would make you think everybody on an overstay is going to detention if they vountarily go to immigration. This is not true. I can remember many cases of people going to immigration or just going to the airport and leaving without going to detention. I even recall one where a person went to immigration because he wanted to go to detention and they told him to come back when he had a passport instead of a letter from the embassy. It would be good if somebody could find a post that states that somebody got detained at the airport or when they went to immigration. Here is a post by Isaanlawyers in a topic on overstay that some might find interesting. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=2238722 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Due to off-topic discussion, flaming, and discussion of illegal activities... /Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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