Why Did You Leave The Uk?

[sassienie]

I am married to a Thai lady who I met in England and now my wife, daughter and I are living in Thailand.

I consider myself as English and proud of that fact.

Over the last 30 years England has become a dumping ground for the world’s dross, violent young thugs have claimed territorial rights to the streets, the National Health Service, education and public service systems are in chaos.

Crime has hit record highs and there is no efficient laws or police powers in force to deal with it.

When my daughter was attending schools in England, I feared for her safety. Over there getting on the wrong side of these thugs at school could mean being beaten, knifed or even shoot. Many a time when I took or collected my daughter from school I saw kids half out of the minds on drink and drugs.

Over the years of visiting Thailand, decided that I would rather my daughter be brought up in Thailand rather than England as it is in her best interests.

My point earlier was that this all rather makes a farce of what my grandfather and father fought for in both World Wars. They were fighting for King and country all that was best about being English so that their descendants would benefit from this.

Now the uniqueness of England has been eroded, the culture, infrastructure and the English community sprit.

The whole country has been demoralised and I still say the English are leaving in droves.

[ukme]

........and I may be one of those (leaving). It's the Original Poster here. The replies to my Original Topic have been interesting to say the least. I'm no Political animal, I'm not particularly Patriotic, I don' t read the Daily Mail nor the Guardian. In fact I avoid virtually ALL Media as I find it depressing. As a result I am not "informed" about what's going on in the World which may, or may not be a bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

Apart from spending quite a few months in Thailand in my Mid/Late twenties I haven't really "lived" outside of England so I can't really make a comparison with life/living in another Country. Life obviously "happens" everywhere - ups/downs good days/bad days etc But life here in the U.K wears me down. So much so that I don't know how much more I can take. Or is this "Life" here AND oversea's?

Edited May 11, 2009 by ukme

[sbk]

Honestly? If you are looking to find a paradise and leave all your troubles behind you will find that your troubles follow you wherever you happen to live.

Sure, the climate is nicer but there are just as many things to wear you down in Thailand as anywhere else. Witness the multitudes of bitter posters on this forum who have nothing positive to say about Thailand.

Fact is, its a a place to live, just like anywhere else, and I have found that those who are bitter, unhappy and angry at home end up being bitter, unhappy and angry in Thailand.

[GuestHouse]

Christ we wouldnt want parades of Leu Kreung English children parading through the streets of BKK or Nakon Nowhere celebrating their Englishness on St Georges Day in the same embarassing way Americans who think theyre Irish do.

Or perhaps in the same way that Chinese Thais celebrate their culture and contribution to Thailand?

The flip side of the coin is to not want your children to be proud of and celebrate their own cultural and family history.

It's a very strange thing not to want for your children.

[wamberal]

I think it would be very fair to say that the overwhelming majority of expats in Thailand cannot afford to live as well in material terms anywhere else. Those of us who can afford to, live in more pleasant, civilised, countries, like Australia (in my and my wife's case).

I spent many years in Hong Kong, and also in Thailand, on very generous expatriate packages both times - and we are in a situation financially where we could afford to live like that in Thailand if we so chose.

However, my wife does not want to live in Thailand, her country of birth, again - she is very, very happy living in Australia.

Finally, I suspect that quite a few posters who are living in Thailand on the smell of an oily rag will spend their final years in abject poverty, without being able to afford end-of-life hospital and/or nursing care. Western countries have their faults, but most of them have safety nets to catch those who cannot fully provide for themselves.

[phutoie2]

Ditto - 'Guesthouse' in your post No 57.

The comment 'Fish and chips shops with real English proprietors' struck a chord. Lifted from the last BNP manifesto I suspect.

I was raised and schooled in Bradford - West Yorks in the mid 60's early 70's. The comments on immigration from TV members born after 69 & 79 crack me up!.

When was this golden age in the UK???

I recommend reading some Dickens, D H Lawrence + others

[sanmiguel]

Christ we wouldnt want parades of Leu Kreung English children parading through the streets of BKK or Nakon Nowhere celebrating their Englishness on St Georges Day in the same embarassing way Americans who think theyre Irish do.

Or perhaps in the same way that Chinese Thais celebrate their culture and contribution to Thailand?

The flip side of the coin is to not want your children to be proud of and celebrate their own cultural and family history.

It's a very strange thing not to want for your children.

Ive family who died in the 2nd world war, and the rest have all had sh7tty jobs in mines and shipyards up until my generation, its not really to be celebrated IMO, but yes if i ever have kids theyll be aware of this.

As for Culture well this word has only been latched onto and rammed down our throats over the last 18 years or so by the media, government and people who desire to be seen as sophisticated in the UK. I now have football culture, working class culture, food culture, wine culture, religious culture and soon to be work culture thats just for starters.

I prefered it when i was just living a life and it wasnt refered to as any kind of wonderful cultural experience. So i wouldnt know where to begin in teaching my kids culture ... only manners and decency.

I know nothing of how Chinese Thais celebrate their culture in Thailand, do they bring up the genocide of Moa in these celebrations, or how they run the show here in LOS? But i believe the Americans thinking theyre Irish make fools of themselves by celebrating St Paddys day, and are not in any way shape or form Irish because some distant relative left the Emerald Isle 100 years ago. Just as in 100 years from now if my distant offspring living in LOS wouldnt be English and have no need to celebrate some mythical culture.

Edited May 12, 2009 by sanmiguel

[MJP]

My main reason was the respect people have for one another here, something that is clearly lacking in the modern day uk.

Tax, national insurance, council tax, TV license, road tax and insurance, petrol prices, extortionate train fares, speed bumps and cameras everywhere, expensive food, having to wait 6-12 months to see a specialist for a non life threatening injury in the 'free' health service then having to pay for vaccinations and prescriptions regardless, wheelie bin fines, hoodies and thugs outside of shops shouting abuse at people that you cannot touch because they are 15 yrs old, useless police force.

Apart from that I just felt frustrated with my life in the UK. I came out of University in a large amount of debt, despite earning reasonable money could only afford to rent some shared terraced sh!thole on a road full of chavs, thieves and druggies. Frustrated at people that get pregnant purposefully in order to get accommodation from the council while I pay and get nothing for being responsible and working for what I have. Fed up with people too lazy to get a job and claim benefits, again paid for by the taxpayer. Like an earlier poster said its the best country to be in if you having nothing - or dont want to work for anything. For those who are honest and want to get ahead in life you have to pay for the deadweights (and I am not talking about people who genuinely cant do anything). Going out for a beer and being punched for no reason by some thug(s). Life can be good in the UK but you do need to earn an enormous amount of money.

I was also fed up with the amount of immigrants taking up large estates of the UK with no interest in integrating or learning English or respecting British values. It just doesnt feel like the same England i grew up in and I am not even 30 yet.

Here I earn a modest wage and have a good quality of lifee, eat well and can walk around or go out at night and not have to worry about being punched for fun.

I really do miss my family and friends so much.

RIP UK

I'm only a few years older than you and yes, for all the same reasons. I sometimes feel I'm a coward, I've let my country down, I'm a hypocrite . . . but to be honest, we all drop dead one day, that's right DEAD.

I had not a moments joy in that country, even though, that said, I was able to make sufficient to move abroad, to have a passport etc.

No I don't miss a moment of it, not for materialist reasons, just because it knocked the stuffing out of me.

I know, it's pathetic.

No it's not pathetic. You have every right to feel let down and disappointed with the way the UK conducts its business within its borders. It's a disgrace! If any of those who gave their lives for a better Great Britian during the two world wars of the first part of the last century were given a flashed forward view of the UK of today, I strongly doubt that they would have joined up. The travesty is the waste of life and human suffering that went in to those periods for the successive governments to throw it all away! People should be getting angry about this.

I feel like a refugee.

I'm actually speechless. Rare for me.

[Mosha]

Oh well I might as well pitch in.

I worked at the same site for 30 years in Huddersfield. Started as I.C.I. The company split we became Zeneca, then Astra Zeneca. Then the Agochemicals side of the company were hived off to the Agrochemicals side of a Swiss company and we became Syngenta. Then in 2003 terms were offered. 30 years at the same site at 3 weeks per year. A bit early for a company pension, but I thought what the heck and took it. Came out and spent 6 months with the gf, to make sure we were ok living together. I had been coming out for 20 years on holiday. We married, I went back to the UK and sold up.

I went back for the last good summer the UK had, and in my home town of Dewsbury West Yorks, the atmosphere was terrible. One of the London bombers came from my village. They white population voted a BNP councillor in. 2 of my mates have gay family, so I suggested that as they had voted BNP they read some German history about Fascists. I never so glad to leave my birth place to return to what I call home. For all it's faults, I love Thailand, esp the south.

[MJP]

Oh well I might as well pitch in.

I worked at the same site for 30 years in Huddersfield. Started as I.C.I. The company split we became Zeneca, then Astra Zeneca. Then the Agochemicals side of the company were hived off to the Agrochemicals side of a Swiss company and we became Syngenta. Then in 2003 terms were offered. 30 years at the same site at 3 weeks per year. A bit early for a company pension, but I thought what the heck and took it. Came out and spent 6 months with the gf, to make sure we were ok living together. I had been coming out for 20 years on holiday. We married, I went back to the UK and sold up.

I went back for the last good summer the UK had, and in my home town of Dewsbury West Yorks, the atmosphere was terrible. One of the London bombers came from my village. They white population voted a BNP councillor in. 2 of my mates have gay family, so I suggested that as they had voted BNP they read some German history about Fascists. I never so glad to leave my birth place to return to what I call home. For all it's faults, I love Thailand, esp the south.

Mosha,

I recently came off your old site at Yalding. Knocked it down and dug it up and incinerated the stuff. Nightmare job. Off to another one in Porto soon.

[Mosha]

When I started at Hudds in 1972 there wre 4000 ICI workers plus contractors. These days it's about 350 including the bloody contractors. Folks used to say where do you work, I'd reply I.C.I. Then you get oh do you know Joe Blogs? hel_l I knew all the blokes in my trade (Electrician), plus in the maintainance group I was in. Another 40 or so plus the lads I served my time with. The sites a mile in either direction, though these days most of my ex workmates would be able to say yes I know him/her. It'll be a bloody Supermarket carpark afore long

[MJP]

When I started at Hudds in 1972 there wre 4000 ICI workers plus contractors. These days it's about 350 including the bloody contractors. Folks used to say where do you work, I'd reply I.C.I. Then you get oh do you know Joe Blogs? hel_l I knew all the blokes in my trade (Electrician), plus in the maintainance group I was in. Another 40 or so plus the lads I served my time with. The sites a mile in either direction, though these days most of my ex workmates would be able to say yes I know him/her. It'll be a bloody Supermarket carpark afore long

I'm supposed to look at the landfill at the Hudds site sometime. Any idea what's in it?

[Mosha]

I do know it's what made the site attractive cos of the size. Some nasty stuff in there so take care. The residents of Huddersfield got all stirred up about the Paraquat plant being built. That was the least of their worries. The land fill is off site about 2 mile or so away. I'm no chemist so I can't say, but there is a place I can ask and I'll get back via pm.

[MJP]

I do know it's what made the site attractive cos of the size. Some nasty stuff in there so take care. The residents of Huddersfield got all stirred up about the Paraquat plant being built. That was the least of their worries. The land fill is off site about 2 mile or so away. I'm no chemist so I can't say, but there is a place I can ask and I'll get back via pm.

That would be great. It's difficult to find many ex-employees from Sygenta that know what went where. I had Brian down at Yalding, been there 30 years or more. He was a God send. Most of the site was okay, but the lagoon! Wow!

[Mosha]

We had a plant that made Di Nitro Toluene (DNT) . One time they lost control of the distillation process and got TNT floating in the pan. Happy to say some careful removal of the crust averted a disaster.

Just thought of another contact who was the manager of the landfill. I'll dig his e-mail out, I actually started with him as a lad.

[Bagwan]

How dare anyone who has emigrated to another country complain about the number of immigrants in our home country??! And then go on to complain that their own Thai (foreign) children cannot consider themselves as British??

I also disagree that the 'real English are leaving in droves'. The percentage who leave are miniscule.

The tiny percentage of us who do leave have our own reasons - weather, financial, lifestyle, failure, etc., but anyone who leaves because they're worried about immigration.........

Reason for edit - sorry, I got a bit annoyed there!

I venture that there is a whole world of difference between the mainly economic refugees that have invaded the UK and the majority of ex-pats who choose to live here. I have not heard of one instance where a Brit has tried to change the nature and culture of this country whereas the Islamic revolution gathers pace back in my former home. The celebration of Christmas apparently offends the fanatic 'faithful', as does the ringing of church bells. Many Brits feel that tolerance and fair dealing is now a one way street. Certainly, the community spirit that I remember as a youngster is no longer there; peeps live behind locked doors now.

To pretend that Immigration policy isn't a major cause for concern in the UK ignores the facts. It is, and has been, for some time. An unwillingness to assimilate and merge into the population exacerbates the situation although it must be admitted that the insularity of Brits does nothing to help. Immigration is a problem in every First World country and is so even in a Third World country such as Thailand.

Isn't it strange that here in TV we are constantly prevailed upon to remember that we are guests in this country and to keep silent over the many injustices, instances of corruption and incompetence, yet those who have sought the haven of the UK are permitted, encouraged by the liberal chattering classes even, to give full rein to demanding that their preferences and interests are met?

The 'real' English have been leaving for one reason or another since 1945 - as have the 'real' Scots, Welsh and Irish. Simple research will prove that this is so. That more than 30% of State pensioners now live abroad was admitted by the UK Government some years ago. I venture that many more would do so if they had the financial resources. I am happy to be in that number that decided that they would spend their declining years somewhere else than the mare's nest that the UK has become.

[MJP]

How dare anyone who has emigrated to another country complain about the number of immigrants in our home country??! And then go on to complain that their own Thai (foreign) children cannot consider themselves as British??

I also disagree that the 'real English are leaving in droves'. The percentage who leave are miniscule.

The tiny percentage of us who do leave have our own reasons - weather, financial, lifestyle, failure, etc., but anyone who leaves because they're worried about immigration.........

Reason for edit - sorry, I got a bit annoyed there!

I venture that there is a whole world of difference between the mainly economic refugees that have invaded the UK and the majority of ex-pats who choose to live here. I have not heard of one instance where a Brit has tried to change the nature and culture of this country whereas the Islamic revolution gathers pace back in my former home. The celebration of Christmas apparently offends the fanatic 'faithful', as does the ringing of church bells. Many Brits feel that tolerance and fair dealing is now a one way street. Certainly, the community spirit that I remember as a youngster is no longer there; peeps live behind locked doors now.

To pretend that Immigration policy isn't a major cause for concern in the UK ignores the facts. It is, and has been, for some time. An unwillingness to assimilate and merge into the population exacerbates the situation although it must be admitted that the insularity of Brits does nothing to help. Immigration is a problem in every First World country and is so even in a Third World country such as Thailand.

Isn't it strange that here in TV we are constantly prevailed upon to remember that we are guests in this country and to keep silent over the many injustices, instances of corruption and incompetence, yet those who have sought the haven of the UK are permitted, encouraged by the liberal chattering classes even, to give full rein to demanding that their preferences and interests are met?

The 'real' English have been leaving for one reason or another since 1945 - as have the 'real' Scots, Welsh and Irish. Simple research will prove that this is so. That more than 30% of State pensioners now live abroad was admitted by the UK Government some years ago. I venture that many more would do so if they had the financial resources. I am happy to be in that number that decided that they would spend their declining years somewhere else than the mare's nest that the UK has become.

I'm just wondering where both of you are from in the UK. I suspect that Bagwan is from an area with high numbers of immigrants and f1fanatic an area with few immigrants.

I lived all over the UK. South West based, lived and worked in south Essex, Argyle & Bute, East London (Mile End and Stratford), Southampton, Ipswich, Maidstone, even Milton Keynes.

It paints a vastly different picture of the UK and the way immigrants are distributed. I agree it is not a reason to leave the UK, I've actually never had a problem with any immigrant, but I suspect for those who grew up in areas where British nationals became the minority, this I may be able to understand.

[Mosha]

F1 Fanatic, many muslims in your home town? My eldest brothers BIL got reported for asking for a white coffee in the council canteen. The local schools in my home town don't mention pigs when talking about farm animals. The holocaust is equally taboo. Khou Chai Mai?

Edited May 12, 2009 by Mosha

[MJP]

F1 Fanatic, many muslims in your home town? My eldest brothers BIL got reported for asking for a white coffee in the council canteen. The local schools in my home town don't mention pigs when talking about farm animals. The holocaust is equally taboo. Khou Chai Mai?

It's a right mess, innit?

But I don't think all that politically correct vileness is down to the immigrants. I suspect they are embarrassed by it in truth. They also know it causes fear and loathing towards them.

It's the New Labour control freaks, typically university educated late twenties/early thirties making a job for themselves in a country with few opportunities in real industry for them.

Terrible sadness and entirely counter-productive.

It's also STARK RAVING BONKERS!!!

Add to that, it was New Labours plan to ultimately control the minds of the British public down to the minuscule.

Edited May 12, 2009 by MJP

[kjhbigv]

Hi,

If I were you, I would move here, you are still young enough if it doesn't work out!

I moved here due to the 'credit crunch' that actually started around 2 years ago. I had enough money in the bank for the forseeable future, so I thought 'why not'?

I still have property in the UK that I rent out.

Good things:-

Weather

Food

Cost of living, especially housing!

Safe

No 'Chavs'

Culture

People

Access to everything I need or want eg. internet, phoning home cheap, latest electronics, Tesco's etc etc.

Girlfriend, better mention her before she slaps me!

Bad things:-

Miss family and friends

TV (lack of decent material)

Apart from that, I've been here for a year or so and I really like it. Could I stay here forever? Possibly.

The strange thing is that I miss the UK sometimes, but when I go back for a few weeks, I realise it's actually a bit crap. You speak to friends and ask 'what's going on?' and the reply is 'nothing'....just the same old job, same old thing.....I then then usually get back on a plane and head back to my 'home' in Thailand! This time I have been here 6 months continously and have no great desire to go back!

Here I have no mortgage (and a nice house), minimal outgoings and quite a relaxed, easy life really.

In the UK, if I lived there I need £1300 a month before I get out of bed!

Agree with others re dossers/thugs/uneducated idiots/freeloaders etc in the UK, I worked every day in the UK since 18, I did ok.....but once I got redundant, it gave me the 'kick up the bum' to move!

I think Thai people (generally) have better work ethic and survival ethic to many in the UK, all too often you hear about the 'lass' in the UK who has 6 kids from different fathers and gets house, money etc but still manages to smoke, drink, holiday etc.....used to get right up my nose.....bring'em over here and let them learn how to survive on their own two feet, I say!! On second thoughts....leave them in the UK, away from me!

One thing you need to think about seriously is 'how will you afford to live here?' eg. work, investments in UK etc....eventually any savings you have will run out.....so start thinking about it sooner, rather than later!

[trompelemonde]

Honestly? If you are looking to find a paradise and leave all your troubles behind you will find that your troubles follow you wherever you happen to live.

Sure, the climate is nicer but there are just as many things to wear you down in Thailand as anywhere else. Witness the multitudes of bitter posters on this forum who have nothing positive to say about Thailand.

Fact is, its a a place to live, just like anywhere else, and I have found that those who are bitter, unhappy and angry at home end up being bitter, unhappy and angry in Thailand.

This post , and the one above by Guesthouse , are the only sensible ones in this bizzare thread.

[steadfast]

Hi,

If I were you, I would move here, you are still young enough if it doesn't work out!

I moved here due to the 'credit crunch' that actually started around 2 years ago. I had enough money in the bank for the forseeable future, so I thought 'why not'?

I still have property in the UK that I rent out.

Good things:-

Weather

Food

Cost of living, especially housing!

Safe

No 'Chavs'

Culture

People

Access to everything I need or want eg. internet, phoning home cheap, latest electronics, Tesco's etc etc.

Girlfriend, better mention her before she slaps me!

Bad things:-

Miss family and friends

TV (lack of decent material)

Apart from that, I've been here for a year or so and I really like it. Could I stay here forever? Possibly.

The strange thing is that I miss the UK sometimes, but when I go back for a few weeks, I realise it's actually a bit crap. You speak to friends and ask 'what's going on?' and the reply is 'nothing'....just the same old job, same old thing.....I then then usually get back on a plane and head back to my 'home' in Thailand! This time I have been here 6 months continously and have no great desire to go back!

Here I have no mortgage (and a nice house), minimal outgoings and quite a relaxed, easy life really.

In the UK, if I lived there I need £1300 a month before I get out of bed!

Agree with others re dossers/thugs/uneducated idiots/freeloaders etc in the UK, I worked every day in the UK since 18, I did ok.....but once I got redundant, it gave me the 'kick up the bum' to move!

I think Thai people (generally) have better work ethic and survival ethic to many in the UK, all too often you hear about the 'lass' in the UK who has 6 kids from different fathers and gets house, money etc but still manages to smoke, drink, holiday etc.....used to get right up my nose.....bring'em over here and let them learn how to survive on their own two feet, I say!! On second thoughts....leave them in the UK, away from me!

One thing you need to think about seriously is 'how will you afford to live here?' eg. work, investments in UK etc....eventually any savings you have will run out.....so start thinking about it sooner, rather than later!

No chavs? You've obviously never been to Phuket then. And I'm not talking about just the tourists.

[kjhbigv]

Hi,

If I were you, I would move here, you are still young enough if it doesn't work out!

I moved here due to the 'credit crunch' that actually started around 2 years ago. I had enough money in the bank for the forseeable future, so I thought 'why not'?

I still have property in the UK that I rent out.

Good things:-

Weather

Food

Cost of living, especially housing!

Safe

No 'Chavs'

Culture

People

Access to everything I need or want eg. internet, phoning home cheap, latest electronics, Tesco's etc etc.

Girlfriend, better mention her before she slaps me!

Bad things:-

Miss family and friends

TV (lack of decent material)

Apart from that, I've been here for a year or so and I really like it. Could I stay here forever? Possibly.

The strange thing is that I miss the UK sometimes, but when I go back for a few weeks, I realise it's actually a bit crap. You speak to friends and ask 'what's going on?' and the reply is 'nothing'....just the same old job, same old thing.....I then then usually get back on a plane and head back to my 'home' in Thailand! This time I have been here 6 months continously and have no great desire to go back!

Here I have no mortgage (and a nice house), minimal outgoings and quite a relaxed, easy life really.

In the UK, if I lived there I need £1300 a month before I get out of bed!

Agree with others re dossers/thugs/uneducated idiots/freeloaders etc in the UK, I worked every day in the UK since 18, I did ok.....but once I got redundant, it gave me the 'kick up the bum' to move!

I think Thai people (generally) have better work ethic and survival ethic to many in the UK, all too often you hear about the 'lass' in the UK who has 6 kids from different fathers and gets house, money etc but still manages to smoke, drink, holiday etc.....used to get right up my nose.....bring'em over here and let them learn how to survive on their own two feet, I say!! On second thoughts....leave them in the UK, away from me!

One thing you need to think about seriously is 'how will you afford to live here?' eg. work, investments in UK etc....eventually any savings you have will run out.....so start thinking about it sooner, rather than later!

No chavs? You've obviously never been to Phuket then. And I'm not talking about just the tourists.

Phuket is in Thailand? Really? Ok, point taken...excluding Phuket!

[Mosha]

F1 Fanatic, many muslims in your home town? My eldest brothers BIL got reported for asking for a white coffee in the council canteen. The local schools in my home town don't mention pigs when talking about farm animals. The holocaust is equally taboo. Khou Chai Mai?

It's a right mess, innit?

But I don't think all that politically correct vileness is down to the immigrants. I suspect they are embarrassed by it in truth. They also know it causes fear and loathing towards them.

It's the New Labour control freaks, typically university educated late twenties/early thirties making a job for themselves in a country with few opportunities in real industry for them.

Terrible sadness and entirely counter-productive.

It's also STARK RAVING BONKERS!!!

Add to that, it was New Labours plan to ultimately control the minds of the British public down to the minuscule.

I forgot to mention, Muslim taxi drivers refusing to carry passenger home from the supermarket because they had bought alcohol. By now they probably check for pork too.

[patongpanda]

If you are looking to find a paradise and leave all your troubles behind you will find that your troubles follow you wherever you happen to live.

Not true!

The day I left Britain my whole life improved - all the troubles lifted, because all the problems were related to living in Britain.

(Used to work at Hoyer, next door to Zeneca)!

[MSingh]

I'm from Inner London, East London to be more specific & to say that place ( that i used to love & probably still do really ) went downhill, for a number of reasons, would be an understatement..

Why did i leave ??

We only live once & my quality of Life was bad & i didn't get value for money in London as much as i believed i should have done & i didn't want my Children to grow up in a Society like East London has turned into, that simple really..

It was actually easier than i thought leaving Home & i don't regret it for a moment.

I do get Homesick sort of, i think,, i miss my Pie & Mash & miss my Curry's & miss my Football ( i miss going to it, we get more Games on TV here than they do at Home ), miss my Family too of course but overall, massively glad i done it..

[GuestHouse]

Judging by the number of ‘Little Englander’ responses to this thread it seems we might be able to look forward to the ludicrous situation in which the BNP has to rely on an absentee vote from guys who fled the UK to get way from foreigners (and of course Muslims).

English humour… God how I miss it!

[TerryTibbs]

i miss my Pie & Mash

Same here Nathans was favourite.

I left the UK before I got old and looked back with regret, you only have one life and it's a big wide world out there go and enjoy it.

[RAZZELL]

Judging by the number of ‘Little Englander’ responses to this thread it seems we might be able to look forward to the ludicrous situation in which the BNP has to rely on an absentee vote from guys who fled the UK to get way from foreigners (and of course Muslims).

English humour… God how I miss it!

GH, I usually like your posts.

But to lecture people when you freely admit you've spent the last "x" number of years as an expat is a bit rich.

Come back to the UK and smell the coffee

To answer the OP. Hopefully, I'll be leaving next year

For a number of reasons - quality of life, business opportunities in Asia and maybe some personal

RAZZ

Edited May 13, 2009 by RAZZELL

[MJP]

F1 Fanatic, many muslims in your home town? My eldest brothers BIL got reported for asking for a white coffee in the council canteen. The local schools in my home town don't mention pigs when talking about farm animals. The holocaust is equally taboo. Khou Chai Mai?

It's a right mess, innit?

But I don't think all that politically correct vileness is down to the immigrants. I suspect they are embarrassed by it in truth. They also know it causes fear and loathing towards them.

It's the New Labour control freaks, typically university educated late twenties/early thirties making a job for themselves in a country with few opportunities in real industry for them.

Terrible sadness and entirely counter-productive.

It's also STARK RAVING BONKERS!!!

Add to that, it was New Labours plan to ultimately control the minds of the British public down to the minuscule.

I forgot to mention, Muslim taxi drivers refusing to carry passenger home from the supermarket because they had bought alcohol. By now they probably check for pork too.

No way, Mosh!

Mind you it does add a bit of situational comedy to old Blighty.