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Staying for long periods at a time on the 30 day visa free stay or consecutive tourist visa stays, most would agree, is bending the rules. However, is there anything illegal in it? Do those who have many, many stamps which they obtained themselves and which demonstrate they are what Dr. PP calls de-facto residents have anything to be worried about in legal terms? Or will they soon simply be told to go apply for a non-im visa if they wish to stay long term?
Posted
Staying for long periods at a time on the 30 day visa free stay or consecutive tourist visa stays, most would agree, is bending the rules. However, is there anything illegal in it? Do those who have many, many stamps which they obtained themselves and which demonstrate they are what Dr. PP calls de-facto residents have anything to be worried about in legal terms? Or will they soon simply be told to go apply for a non-im visa if they wish to stay long term?

Yes, so it's about time to get that multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa now!

Posted
So if its illegal, what is the cut off point? Is three 30 day stays okay or 6 or 10? When do they decide that you are abusing the system and decide you are breaking the law? Or is this a question that can't be answered and anyone wanting to stay long term should just get a non-im visa?
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NO it is not at this time illegal. It may make some people irritanted and may be a bonehead move too,but it is legal. This is why the goverment wants to correct the law. My only concern is the knee jerk over reaction to the problem with banishment for long periods of time.

Many countries have the same tr visa as Thai but they don't have the same mass problem. The thing is what makes Thailand a tourist and expat draw is the same reason that they get the numbers we do.

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I am not familiar with the process of obtaining

a 30 day Visa on Arrival (if that IS what we are talking about?)

But presumably a form has to be completed

which contains info as to the reason for entry into

the Kingdom - to which I assume most answer "Tourist"

If you are subsequently found to be Living with a Thai Wife

then "Tourist" would be a Dishonest answer ...

And I suggest this is what puts you outside of the Law ...

no matter how many 30 days you had

nor whether there is any Law limiting the number ... ?

Roger

Posted
NO it is not at this time illegal. It may make some people irritanted and may be a bonehead move too,but it is legal. This is why the goverment wants to correct the law. My only concern is the knee jerk over reaction to the problem with banishment for long periods of time.

Many countries have the same tr visa as Thai but they don't have the same mass problem. The thing is what makes Thailand a tourist and expat draw is the same reason that they get the numbers we do.

easymoney,

if, as you admit, it is legal, then am I right to assume that there can be no punishment, even for these guys who have done 10 years on 30 day stays? These people should be told that its time to go get a real visa and it should be left at that.

So as far as you know, is this what will happen or has the government planned some kind of punishment? if its the latter, then I harldy know what to say. After all, these people aren't breaking any law. its different from a fake visa.

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I am not familiar with the process of obtaining

a 30 day Visa on Arrival (if that IS what we are talking about?)

But presumably a form has to be completed

which contains info as to the reason for entry into

the Kingdom - to which I assume most answer "Tourist"

If you are subsequently found to be Living with a Thai Wife

then "Tourist" would be a Dishonest answer ...

And I suggest this is what puts you outside of the Law ...

no matter how many 30 days you had

nor whether there is any Law limiting the number ... ?

Roger

Yes, but if you are not married and not working, what then? True, you are a de-facto resident, but you are not lying by declaring yourself a tourist.

Posted
True, you are a de-facto resident, but you are not lying by declaring yourself a tourist.

Are you sure?

Maybe it depends on any print

(small or otherrwise) on the Application form ...

concerning maybe false information.

Roger

Posted
I'm pretty sure Roger. As easymoney said, this is what is causing the headaches at immigration. it is legal and yes, it is a loop hole. My concern is that immigration will devise a punishment for those who they deem to have abused the system, eventhough they were breaking no laws. No matter how much disdain you have for people who are very much taking advantage of the 30 day privelage, that would simply be wrong.
Posted

Yes, so it's about time to get that multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa now!

George, if a person is:

under 50,

has sufficient money for support without working;

is not married to a Thai;

What Non-immigrant is available ?

T.I.A

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Bob

Yes it is legal but because the system was abused the goverment is cracking down. I even did a few back to back years ago but just because trips out got cancelled. It is time

to go for the a regular non imm.

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