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Okay, so the phone section at Robinsons has an 'AJ' branded copy of an i-phone reduced from 12k to 7k. I tried searching this forum but it doesn't seem to have been a discussed subject. Wonder why......

So this mobile I saw today is kind of a bulky copy of the famous Apple phone, touch screen, TV tuner and 2MP camera. And AJ is like what? a Thai company? I don't know. Has anyone bought one? Care to comment?

My first impressions of it; a bit crap, but I don't own an i-phone so I don't know much. Reading between the lines, this AJ phone can't be flying off the shelves if there are going for 50%. Does having a copied phone suck that much?

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The 32 GB iPhone will be pretty expensive I think. Wait until the 3G is released and then buy the first gen iPhone for nearly the same price as that stupid copy runs for.

Posted

Yeah yada yada yada.

Nobody used one but everyone is against it. I wonder why? I myself have one Chinese phone and am very happy with it, and my boyfriend's cheapo TV-phone isn't bad either.

There are a ton of places in MBK that have spare parts for those phones, and if the company (AJ here) is big enough to have a website then spare parts should not become a problem.

The "copied iPhone" probably has almost the same functions as the real iPhone (most likely minus the multi-touch feature) and sells for the price such a piece of hardware should cost.

Apples sells for way more because hey, it's an Apple, no? There you pay 25% for the hardware, 75% for the name...... and everyone loves to be taken for a ride.

Kind regards.....

Thanh

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The "copied iPhone" probably has almost the same functions as the real iPhone (most likely minus the multi-touch feature) and sells for the price such a piece of hardware should cost.

Right. And pigs fly.

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The "copied iPhone" probably has almost the same functions as the real iPhone (most likely minus the multi-touch feature) and sells for the price such a piece of hardware should cost.

Right. And pigs fly.

Ok Mr. know-it-all.

Then please name me ONE function APART from the multi-touch feature that makes an iPhone "outstanding" and is not available in any other phone. And no, the "Apple" logo does not count, technical features only please.

I could name a dozen or two which are NOT in an iPhone but in others - for years.

Regards.....

Thanh

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Yeah yada yada yada.

Nobody used one but everyone is against it. I wonder why? I myself have one Chinese phone and am very happy with it, and my boyfriend's cheapo TV-phone isn't bad either.

There are a ton of places in MBK that have spare parts for those phones, and if the company (AJ here) is big enough to have a website then spare parts should not become a problem.

The "copied iPhone" probably has almost the same functions as the real iPhone (most likely minus the multi-touch feature) and sells for the price such a piece of hardware should cost.

Apples sells for way more because hey, it's an Apple, no? There you pay 25% for the hardware, 75% for the name...... and everyone loves to be taken for a ride.

Kind regards.....

Thanh

e.g. Apple IPOD (Idiots Price Our Devices)

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I am sorry Thanh, I can't argue that the sky is blue, or the sun rises every day.

If you don't see the obvious, there is no point trying to convince you. I am guessing you don't have the iPhone, otherwise you'd be well aware of the differences.

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Then please name me ONE function APART from the multi-touch feature that makes an iPhone "outstanding" and is not available in any other phone. And no, the "Apple" logo does not count, technical features only please.

I can use one word.

Appstore.

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Sorry hun.....

I don't OWN one because only fools pay that price for that piece of hardware. However i have used so far two of them, and NOTHING would convince me to get one, not even if they would sell for 5,000 Baht.

As i said, the multi-touch is the ONLY thing which is superb on that phone. The camera is average, no flash, no video, no real Bluetooth, no memory card support, you can't even swap the battery in that stupid thing! And yes i AM aware that you can install all sorts of stuff on it to get more functions, but why bother? Other phones (and pretty much all of them) support such basic functionality out of the box.

On my old Nokia i could install more stuff than on that iPhone. Without any cracks, hacks, jail-breaks and whatnot. My cheap Samsung's internet connection is faster than iPhone's. GPS-like apps are available for a multitude of phones, many come with it out of the box (notably Nokia). Same-same for YouTube video players. Upload pix to Flickr? Yawn, my mentioned old Nokia could do that already. And ALL of my phones take mp3's WITHOUT some proprietary piece of junk named "iTunes".

Oh, you want to tell me about the 8 (16, 32?) gigabyte of memory? Most of today's phones support memory cards with that size, which you can get cheaply at Panthip. And a memory card does NOT fail after you dropped it onto a tiled floor. I've got 4 GB in my old Sony-Ericsson K750i which i use since two years or so and have not gotten the thing full yet. And that's got a flash along with it's 2 MP camera (same as iPhone) which can be used as a VERY useful flashlight, plays mp3 and different video formats, records video limited only by memory card capacity etc etc etc. It's got no multi-touch, so what? It's got a very nicely working keypad instead which does not cause finger prints on the display.

Best regards......

Thanh

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Then please name me ONE function APART from the multi-touch feature that makes an iPhone "outstanding" and is not available in any other phone. And no, the "Apple" logo does not count, technical features only please.

I can use one word.

Appstore.

Sorry, you lost.

Nokia had that before Apple thought of an iPod, let alone iPhone. Sony-Ericsson got it. Samsung got it. Even TCL got it!

But of course they don't name them "AppStore".

Thanh

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Excuse my ignorance, where can I buy a 32Gb memory card for my phone ...? :)

I don't have a Iphone, but rather a poor man's LG Cookie. With the writing capabilty and touch screen, I never want to go back to a phone with buttons.

Furthermore, as an owner of an Ipod 5th Gen, calling Itunes ' junk is a little daft.

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Hi.

Regarding iTunes, some love it, some hate it. I am fixing computers as a job and i often had to fix screwed up systems where iTunes was the culprit. But even if it's working fine, the fact alone that you NEED to use that one specific software to get YOUR music from YOUR computer to YOUR portable player is a reason not to use it. Why every other player works with drag/drop or copy/paste, but the iPod/iPhone does not..?

The next generation iPhone, i have read, will have 32 GB of memory. And i have seen micro-SD cards with that amount of space in Panthip (and thumb drives, too). I don't know if your LG supports them, just pop one in and see if it works. They let you try before you buy :) My old SE can go 8 GB but i can't even get half that filled, so why bother?

Best regards....

Thanh

Posted

I saw i phone minis in mai sai about 2 months ago looked pretty real, kinda scary but funny

Posted

I agree with Than; I know someone that bought a chinese made iPhone copy (B4.7k) and she is very happy with it. She has the version that allows you to watch tv.

Posted

Please, be happy with cheap chinese clones, even if the closest they come to the iPhone is the outer shape. I don't mind. Why not lots of people use chinese phones that may not work that well but that are perfectly adequate for making phone calls and taking pictures.

Just don't go about and claim it's the same thing, it just makes you seem extremely uninformed, misinformed even.

The iPhone is the best of the bunch when you compare the best, most modern phones - the Palm Pre, BB Storm, N97, HTC Magic - they all try, but fall short with their software. Comparing it to some cheap chinese clones is just plain silly.

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Nokia had that before Apple thought of an iPod, let alone iPhone. Sony-Ericsson got it. Samsung got it. Even TCL got it!

But of course they don't name them "AppStore".

No. What they do instead is keep it secret so that nobody knows about it, save for a selected few.

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Please, be happy with cheap chinese clones, even if the closest they come to the iPhone is the outer shape. I don't mind. Why not lots of people use chinese phones that may not work that well but that are perfectly adequate for making phone calls and taking pictures.

Just don't go about and claim it's the same thing, it just makes you seem extremely uninformed, misinformed even.

The iPhone is the best of the bunch when you compare the best, most modern phones - the Palm Pre, BB Storm, N97, HTC Magic - they all try, but fall short with their software. Comparing it to some cheap chinese clones is just plain silly.

I agree with you there is no comparison iphone is on its own

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted
Hi.

Regarding iTunes, some love it, some hate it. I am fixing computers as a job and i often had to fix screwed up systems where iTunes was the culprit. But even if it's working fine, the fact alone that you NEED to use that one specific software to get YOUR music from YOUR computer to YOUR portable player is a reason not to use it. Why every other player works with drag/drop or copy/paste, but the iPod/iPhone does not..?

The next generation iPhone, i have read, will have 32 GB of memory. And i have seen micro-SD cards with that amount of space in Panthip (and thumb drives, too). I don't know if your LG supports them, just pop one in and see if it works. They let you try before you buy :) My old SE can go 8 GB but i can't even get half that filled, so why bother?

Best regards....

Thanh

Your posts make me laugh out loud.... (LOL)..

You can't compare a copy crap with a real genuine IPhone. That said, Chinese copy mobile phones are even worse.

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Oh yes i can compare them.

Because the iPhone is an overpriced piece of technology that is worth less than 25% of what they ask for it. The only reason people are willing to pay so much for so little is the hype around the brand name "Apple".

And the "copy crap" does the same or an even better job for MUCH less money.

Regards

Thanh

Posted
Hi.

Regarding iTunes, some love it, some hate it. I am fixing computers as a job and i often had to fix screwed up systems where iTunes was the culprit. But even if it's working fine, the fact alone that you NEED to use that one specific software to get YOUR music from YOUR computer to YOUR portable player is a reason not to use it. Why every other player works with drag/drop or copy/paste, but the iPod/iPhone does not..?

The next generation iPhone, i have read, will have 32 GB of memory. And i have seen micro-SD cards with that amount of space in Panthip (and thumb drives, too). I don't know if your LG supports them, just pop one in and see if it works. They let you try before you buy :D My old SE can go 8 GB but i can't even get half that filled, so why bother?

Best regards....

Thanh

Your posts make me laugh out loud.... (LOL)..

You can't compare a copy crap with a real genuine IPhone. That said, Chinese copy mobile phones are even worse.

Hear hear. Thanh's posts want to make me pee my pants I laugh so much at his ignorance. :)

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Thanh my old creative player had a propietry driver that you had to use before you could see it on the pc

saying that most MP3 players are plug and play nowadays apart from apple and sony was also notorious for locking there music but then again they are a record label as well

no i would not buy chinese clones but there are alternatives to apple very nice alernatives and cheaper

and unfortunately looking at the specs apple iphone is not all that it is cracked up to be at the end of the day take away the touchscreen and it is a pretty mediocre phone

its a bit like comparing spinal tap to queen

Posted
Okay, so the phone section at Robinsons has an 'AJ' branded copy of an i-phone reduced from 12k to 7k. I tried searching this forum but it doesn't seem to have been a discussed subject. Wonder why......

So this mobile I saw today is kind of a bulky copy of the famous Apple phone, touch screen, TV tuner and 2MP camera. And AJ is like what? a Thai company? I don't know. Has anyone bought one? Care to comment?

My first impressions of it; a bit crap, but I don't own an i-phone so I don't know much. Reading between the lines, this AJ phone can't be flying off the shelves if there are going for 50%. Does having a copied phone suck that much?

I will give you the numbers:7kBaht is 200US$;the same phone in HongKong is 100US$,in Shenzen 50$;you see how much you will pay for hype?

I have experience - they dont last long,the weak point are batteries,if you buy - get yourself at least one or two spare;later - you will not find them anywhere.I think that clone called mini-iphone is not bad,if you are lucky;and do not pay too much:3000B is more then enough.

Posted
Okay, so the phone section at Robinsons has an 'AJ' branded copy of an i-phone reduced from 12k to 7k. I tried searching this forum but it doesn't seem to have been a discussed subject. Wonder why......

So this mobile I saw today is kind of a bulky copy of the famous Apple phone, touch screen, TV tuner and 2MP camera. And AJ is like what? a Thai company? I don't know. Has anyone bought one? Care to comment?

My first impressions of it; a bit crap, but I don't own an i-phone so I don't know much. Reading between the lines, this AJ phone can't be flying off the shelves if there are going for 50%. Does having a copied phone suck that much?

I will give you the numbers:7kBaht is 200US$;the same phone in HongKong is 100US$,in Shenzen 50$;you see how much you will pay for hype?

I have experience - they dont last long,the weak point are batteries,if you buy - get yourself at least one or two spare;later - you will not find them anywhere.I think that clone called mini-iphone is not bad,if you are lucky;and do not pay too much:3000B is more then enough.

The major benefit to the iPhone is vast software ecosystem that supports it via iTunes, even Nokia with Ovi and Windows Marketplace don't make a dent on the available software (both free and commercial). In addition you'll almost guaranteed firmware updates for at least 18 months. The china copy versions don't have any software beyond what's available when you buy them (do they even have Java mobile support?) and any annoying bugs are unlikely to be fixed via firmware as they don't have the reputation to maintain so on to a new copy... It depends on what you use it for but the iPhone is the data phone, do the copies feature a browser such as Safari, or Opera? Can you install skype? Maps? etc..

PS. I dont own an iPhone, nor an apple boy fan despite what it seems...

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Firstly, thanks to everyone for information and opinions.

Update on AJ I-Phone copy

I actually purchased one, in a moment of madness, despite really wanting to buy a real Apple I-phone. I bought the AJ phone from my near-by Robinson Department store. I can confidently report that the phone is horrific. Utterly useless. A total let-down. I give a strong warning to anyone DO NOT BUY ONE.

It's hard to know where to start but I thought I was getting a copied I-phone, and I thought it was cheap because AJ didn't have such massive marketing overheads as Apple. NO NO NO. The AJ phone is cheap because it is cheap; it's literally constructed from soiled cotton-buds. Do you know how frustrating a 'touch-screen' is with a delay? The screen is noticeably rubbish, dull and crap. The camera is so inferior that its lens may as well be made from polythene. The phone's finish is a joke. Internet connectivity? No. You can't actually surf the web, it's like a condensed version. There is a limit to the type and size of files you can download.

The only good thing I have to say about AJ's copied I-phone is that I managed to sell it to a shop in MBK for 4000baht (The Good Lord works in mysterious ways….) and that numbed the pain.

Since then, I purchased a real I-Phone G3 from True (I say 'purchased' – True offer a good deal to UBC customers, so I set up finance with passport and work permit and will pay it off every month) and it is a thing of beauty. With the I-phone you can actually look at real websites and it looks and behaves brilliantly. It's the first Apple product I've ever bought and I'm a convert.

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