*** webdesigner ***

[miskia]

Hello,

I am a webdesigner in Montreal (Canada)

I am looking for a job in Thailand like flash webdesigner (skills : Photoshop-Dreamweaver-flash/html).

Don't hesitate to contact me if you have some opportunities.

Best regards,

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(¯`._**~Miskia~**_.´¯) ²°°³

+++ Professional Web Design Services

http://www.net-artdesign.com

http://www.bestglamourmodels.com

http://www.ramacieridesign.com

[en184]

I like your websites.  Looks like you don't need work.  Just design those cool teen art websites and collect the cash.

If you are interested in such a joint venture, please contact me on

[email protected]

I have a very small side business that is similar.

[sting01]

Just wonder if it's you who made the Flash animations?

I just take 5 mn to check  this site :

http://www.ramacieridesign.com/fr/

I prefer to do the comment in french :

tu as un probleme avec ton script.  Bienvenue, Produit , service ... lorsque tu passe de l'un a l'autre, apres 4 secondes le pointeur reapparait a l'ancienne position durant 1/10eme de seconde. Peu mieux faire. Aujourd'hui j'ai pas le temps, mais demain je downloader ton fichier .swf and te le modifier, laise moi ton address email comme cela je peut te le renvoyer (.swf is suffisant pas besoin du .fla ... si tu as les outils necessaires . smile). P.S ne le prend pas mal, design je connais pas, je ne suis pas un creatif, mais je connais bien les scripts par contre.

As En184, I like the design of your work, very creative in my opinion.

[Butterfly]

Doing things in Flash does NOT make you a webdesigner. You should be shot for even suggesting such an option to potential clients. Flash is ** EVIL ** and should be banned. Not everybody is on ADSL or Cable you know.

However, independant Flash downloadble movie are quite nice. Anything else is trash.

[wish_i_was_there]

Nice sites.. Just a little FYI i'm sure if your willing to take a HUGE paycut you could work in thailand.  The amount of people that are webdesigners in thailand is "HUGE".  But anything is possible.

[erain]

Hi miskia,

 Like your work. Let me know how much you charge for a small webiste and flash animation. I can get you work.

Regards

[sting01]

May I given also my tarifs erain?

Well, Flash is great, especially if you have a good bandwith ... It's sure everybody have it here in thailand, DSL, cable ... noboddy use dialup anymore.

More seriously, flash is usefull to make things smooth, if you don't know what programmation mean, you can have the same kind of effect with some advanced languages like PHP (what about MING module for PHP?).

If your site is not up in less than 5 seconds, you loose 50 % of your visitors, if not in the next 5 secs, then stay only 25%, thoses people whatever know well why they come, but it mean you will get no new visitors, or just some not the amount you are waiting for. For a commercial site it could be the difference btw survive or disapear.

If you need some infos, technicall advise, or some tarifs, feel free to PM me

Sting

Ghost in the machine

[sting01]

Back

As I said I downloaded your swf file, and open it ... First do you it's possible to do that... I mean the .SWF, not the .fla file? Opnening and modify it?

If you have time , message me , and I will give you some tips to make it better.

Sting

Message in the bottle

[Rockhard]

There are plenty of "so-called" web designers here in Thailand but from what I've experienced, alot of them are pretty worthless. I've found one and will stick with him for the duration. It's not as easy as you think to find a decent, reasonably priced web-designer here, so beware of the promises you may be given.

[Butterfly]

Nice sites.. Just a little FYI i'm sure if your willing to take a HUGE paycut you could work in thailand.  The amount of people that are webdesigners in thailand is "HUGE".  But anything is possible.

and a lot of talents, cheaps, but still talented. A lot of good Thai guys if you can get them to work. Difficult for farangs to compete with that.

[erain]

Nice sites.. Just a little FYI i'm sure if your willing to take a HUGE paycut you could work in thailand.  The amount of people that are webdesigners in thailand is "HUGE".  But anything is possible.

and a lot of talents, cheaps, but still talented. A lot of good Thai guys if you can get them to work. Difficult for farangs to compete with that.

Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them ....if you claim they are good , send me a url , so that I can see some good work. Programming skills are also very bad and thats why thailand is full of Indian programmer now. The main reason they are not good is because they don't want to read english and English books are expensive.

[Butterfly]

Nice sites.. Just a little FYI i'm sure if your willing to take a HUGE paycut you could work in thailand.  The amount of people that are webdesigners in thailand is "HUGE".  But anything is possible.

and a lot of talents, cheaps, but still talented. A lot of good Thai guys if you can get them to work. Difficult for farangs to compete with that.

Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them ....if you claim they are good , send me a url , so that I can see some good work. Programming skills are also very bad and thats why thailand is full of Indian programmer now. The main reason they are not good is because they don't want to read english and English books are expensive.

I don't agree entirely. Yes Thais are worthless for programming but in terms of website design and layout they can do a great job. Of course, a lot of farangs and Thais (probably more Thais) claim to be webdesigners while they are not. If you have the money (still cheaper than farangs) you can get a great Thai guy. I have one or two I know I can count on when I need to design a good looking website.

[wish_i_was_there]

Sting01,

Re: losing 50% of of your visitors I'd have to disagree.  I don't know where you got your stats from but those just aren't correct not everyone that's on the net is on a high speed connection and some countries still don't have even  48kps speed.  

Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them ....if you claim they are good , send me a url , so that I can see some good work. Programming skills are also very bad and thats why thailand is full of Indian programmer now. The main reason they are not good is because they don't want to read english and English books are expensive.

Erain,

Wow what a nice blanket statements. Here's just one site that i found  http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com there's more out there like this .. and here are some sites done by some of the freelancers there http://www.landrover.co.th   http://www.royalind.com/  plus many others (these were just in the minimum $200 section).  Umm have you looked at the IT sector in any country lately ?  There's not to many countries that aren't importing workers from other areas to do programming.  RE: English books ok you really have to be trolling.  Ignorance is Bliss.

[erain]

Sting01,

Re: losing 50% of of your visitors I'd have to disagree.  I don't know where you got your stats from but those just aren't correct not everyone that's on the net is on a high speed connection and some countries still don't have even  48kps speed.  

Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them ....if you claim they are good , send me a url , so that I can see some good work. Programming skills are also very bad and thats why thailand is full of Indian programmer now. The main reason they are not good is because they don't want to read english and English books are expensive.

Erain,

Wow what a nice blanket statements. Here's just one site that i found  http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com there's more out there like this .. and here are some sites done by some of the freelancers there http://www.landrover.co.th   http://www.royalind.com/  plus many others (these were just in the minimum $200 section).  Umm have you looked at the IT sector in any country lately ?  There's not to many countries that aren't importing workers from other areas to do programming.  RE: English books ok you really have to be trolling.  Ignorance is Bliss.

Hi Sting01,

http://www.landrover.co.th  ..done by an Australian company.

http://www.royalind.com ..done by an indian company...

Learn to do some research ...before you post something. BTW you guys think that webiste means something that looks good and thats enough and for me website is something that brings customer, scalable solution and maintainable over a period of time.

have you seen this one:

http://www.2advanced.com

now tell me you have a thai designer who can do it for $200

[Butterfly]

have you seen this one:

http://www.2advanced.com

now tell me you have a thai designer who can do it for $200

yep, could do it for even $150 if I was a cheap bastard  

[wish_i_was_there]

Hi Sting01,

http://www.landrover.co.th  ..done by an Australian company.

http://www.royalind.com ..done by an indian company...

Learn to do some research ...before you post something. BTW you guys think that website means something that looks good and that's enough and for me website is something that brings customer, scalable solution and maintainable over a period of time.

have you seen this one:

http://www.2advanced.com

now tell me you have a thai designer who can do it for $200

Erain,

Well in your rush to be right, looks like you once again are continuing to post wrong statements.  And if you would of did a little research yourself, you would have noticed that I posted to you not Sting 01.  And as far as who designed what, again you are WRONG I just chose to link you to 2 of the many sites showcased by Thai designers on the site i gave you.  Now you could of went there looked at the sites and came to a rational conclusion that your statement "Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them is flawed" .  I see you practice selective responding so i I'll try not to ask you any questions.  oh btw here's some brief info on the designer of the 2 sites i gave in my pervious post  

http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com/search_sh...?twf_id=twf1324  landrover  

http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com/search_sh...?twf_id=twf1261 royal

IF you can read you can see that both of these designers are Thai.

Now regarding website designs anybody that owns a successful site(s) or designs them knows that if you knows that just having a good looking site is not enough. It's about your traffic , marketing , SEO.  There are many sites out there that have basic designs Thai visa included but have a good amount of traffic from a design standpoint it doesn't "bring me" but from the information side it does.

last regarding

http://www.2advanced.com  What's your point?  $200.  Do you have an Indian , American, Canadian or any designer that can do that for $200?

[en184]

Web and Internet have become cheap commodities.  Used to be prized but now so many unemployed experts arround since the dot.com collapse.  

I used to test internet banking websites for a living..  That source of revenue has pretty much dried up now or is being done in India.

[light]

Interesting thread.

I am a Internet Programmer allbeit in the Microsoft arena (asp.net / sql server - dB design and t-sql / javascript / xml / xsl / xslt / xpath / dhtml / xhtml / wml etc)

Would any of you guys know where I could get work. I would be happy with a salary of 50k pcm. A large cut from what I am on here but worth it to be back in LOS.

Any help appreciated

Martin  :laugh:

[base1]

This is an interesting thread with lots of views, but web design is like most things in life you usually get what you pay for!

Yes, there are peeps out there who can bang a "site" together using some useless tool like FP for peanuts - but that doesnt mean real pro design is a cheap commoditiy. The truth is good design still costs money - even in Thailand.

Also, some freelancers are obviously not shy in err... lying ...about their work. Case in point:

Landrover site - not by some freelancer (or even an Aussie co) - but a well known Thai company and the cost was not a few thousand baht - more like several hundred thousand baht.

I understand Royalind was also developed by a well known Thai company, not a cheap freelancer or India co, if one can believe their portflolio.

Clearly there is a lot of talent, both in programming and design in LOS, but I also believe it is not cheap - and I would also go so far as to say that the top talent in India also costs.

Cheap and good? yet to find that in any industry.

just my 2 cents  

[stuccy]

looking for a job, anybody in bangkok need a flash designer, or webdesign in anyway please send me an email: [email protected], im now living in bangkok

sample:

http://www.mobfather.com

[erain]

Hi Sting01,

http://www.landrover.co.th  ..done by an Australian company.

http://www.royalind.com ..done by an indian company...

Learn to do some research ...before you post something. BTW you guys think that website means something that looks good and that's enough and for me website is something that brings customer, scalable solution and maintainable over a period of time.

have you seen this one:

http://www.2advanced.com

now tell me you have a thai designer who can do it for $200

Erain,

Well in your rush to be right, looks like you once again are continuing to post wrong statements.  And if you would of did a little research yourself, you would have noticed that I posted to you not Sting 01.  And as far as who designed what, again you are WRONG I just chose to link you to 2 of the many sites showcased by Thai designers on the site i gave you.  Now you could of went there looked at the sites and came to a rational conclusion that your statement "Yeah I have seen Thai web design ....its not good at all, most of them is flawed" .  I see you practice selective responding so i I'll try not to ask you any questions.  oh btw here's some brief info on the designer of the 2 sites i gave in my pervious post  

http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com/search_sh...?twf_id=twf1324  landrover  

http://www.thaiwebfreelances.com/search_sh...?twf_id=twf1261 royal

IF you can read you can see that both of these designers are Thai.

Now regarding website designs anybody that owns a successful site(s) or designs them knows that if you knows that just having a good looking site is not enough. It's about your traffic , marketing , SEO.  There are many sites out there that have basic designs Thai visa included but have a good amount of traffic from a design standpoint it doesn't "bring me" but from the information side it does.

last regarding

http://www.2advanced.com  What's your point?  $200.  Do you have an Indian , American, Canadian or any designer that can do that for $200?

I think you are confused. I never said a site like 2advanced can cost US$200. Butterfly in this forum said that. A site like 2advanced can only be done by 2advanced, if you know who is "Erik Jordan" then only you will know what I am talking about. last I argee with "base 1" but Landrover site is done by a "Aussy Thai company -named Hydro thai company" -please go to their site to find out where they are from. For "Royal industry" - Do you know the owner ..he is an Thai-indian(Sikh), and he has his own IT company, and when I said indian I meant Thai-indian.

Yes I agree good talent costs ..and this point is not undrstood by many here.

Thanks