Replacement Birth Certificate For Thai Wife

[clifric]

If this is the wrong forum, please move. Other links seem to cover refugees and people who need a new birth certificate. My wife was born in Bang Konthi in 1963 and does not have a birth certificate, although she has an ID card. Thinks cert was 'lost' during relocation.

She tells me she cannot get a replacement/copy from the Amphoe at Bang Konthi - is she right? If so can anyone tell me where to get one. A forum on Bangkok Post suggested an Information Centre in Dusit Bangkok but reports suggest this is no longer operational, certainly the suggested link doesn't open up.

Any ideas?

[Amir]

In Laksi Chaengwattana road there is a big registration office (also chamber of foreign affairs...) were you would get all answers regarding ID, birth certificate and other... My wife lost a few documents and they told her what to do...

[Mario2008]

Your wife could try and have a look at this website:

http://www.dopa.go.th/

[mysterybkk]

try asking one of the gentlemen on khaosan road. you know, the ones that also sell drivers' licenses and such things.

[nakachalet]

clifric

obtaining a birth certificate fraudulently entails a criminal offense.

hopefully, you are not seriously thinking in that direction as some suggested.

perhaps, amir's suggestion might help:

In Laksi Chaengwattana road there is a big registration office (also chamber of foreign affairs...) were you would get all answers regarding ID, birth certificate and other... My wife lost a few documents and they told her what to do...

my buddie who was born in 1942 down south, found his replacement of his birth certificate after some 3 months of due diligence hard work. hopefully your wife will be just as fruitful in her search for her replacement birth certificate.

it surely is not an easy task, especially when you do not wish to pay anyone to 'negotiate' for your benefits.

[noise]

If this is the wrong forum, please move. Other links seem to cover refugees and people who need a new birth certificate. My wife was born in Bang Konthi in 1963 and does not have a birth certificate, although she has an ID card. Thinks cert was 'lost' during relocation.

She tells me she cannot get a replacement/copy from the Amphoe at Bang Konthi - is she right? If so can anyone tell me where to get one. A forum on Bangkok Post suggested an Information Centre in Dusit Bangkok but reports suggest this is no longer operational, certainly the suggested link doesn't open up.

Any ideas?

Here are the steps I would recommend persuing (my wife had to take this route) . First, determine where she was born, i.e., at home or in a hospital. Back in 63 there were still lots of at home births. If at home...and I take it home is in Amphoe Bang Konthi.....

1. Most likely the amphoe said they could not give her a replacement birth certificate because they never issued one in the first place. At home births were only documented with the child's first entry in the amphoe records as an add to the house registration. Start with 1963 and search the old registration for her.
   
2. If her mother is still alive, get her and the village kamnan to go to the amphoe and sign an affidavit swearing the birth took place at home, no hospital birth certificate exists, and that the house registration documents the birth. If her mother is not alive, is the father or other close relative? What you are looking for is someone who was there at the time and would be someone the kamnan would know and vouch for.
   
3. The amphoe can then issue a substitute document saying words to the effect: "use this letter in lieu of a birth certificate as one was not issued for this home birth of girl child on this date 1963". It may be that Bang Konthi will tellher to take the letter from #2 and go to the amphoe where he current house registration is and get the substitute letter there.
   
4. Of course, take all the documentation you have showing maiden name, marriage(s)/divorces, etc., to provide a trail to the name she is currently using on the house registration.
   

If she was born in a hospital, check there to see if they don't have a record. If they do not, get a letter so stating and follow steps 1-4 with the necessary modifications to the wording. Tracing her back to the first entry on the official house registration as dek ying age 4 months or something like that and having her village kamnan swearing she was born should do the trick.

Hope this gives you an idea of how to work it.

[clifric]

Your wife could try and have a look at this website:

Thanks Mario - I actually found a reference to this in Google after I posted on the Forum but have yet to try my wife out on it

[clifric]

If this is the wrong forum, please move. Other links seem to cover refugees and people who need a new birth certificate. My wife was born in Bang Konthi in 1963 and does not have a birth certificate, although she has an ID card. Thinks cert was 'lost' during relocation.

She tells me she cannot get a replacement/copy from the Amphoe at Bang Konthi - is she right? If so can anyone tell me where to get one. A forum on Bangkok Post suggested an Information Centre in Dusit Bangkok but reports suggest this is no longer operational, certainly the suggested link doesn't open up.

Any ideas?

Here are the steps I would recommend persuing (my wife had to take this route) . First, determine where she was born, i.e., at home or in a hospital. Back in 63 there were still lots of at home births. If at home...and I take it home is in Amphoe Bang Konthi.....

1. Most likely the amphoe said they could not give her a replacement birth certificate because they never issued one in the first place. At home births were only documented with the child's first entry in the amphoe records as an add to the house registration. Start with 1963 and search the old registration for her.
   
2. If her mother is still alive, get her and the village kamnan to go to the amphoe and sign an affidavit swearing the birth took place at home, no hospital birth certificate exists, and that the house registration documents the birth. If her mother is not alive, is the father or other close relative? What you are looking for is someone who was there at the time and would be someone the kamnan would know and vouch for.
   
3. The amphoe can then issue a substitute document saying words to the effect: "use this letter in lieu of a birth certificate as one was not issued for this home birth of girl child on this date 1963". It may be that Bang Konthi will tellher to take the letter from #2 and go to the amphoe where he current house registration is and get the substitute letter there.
   
4. Of course, take all the documentation you have showing maiden name, marriage(s)/divorces, etc., to provide a trail to the name she is currently using on the house registration.
   

If she was born in a hospital, check there to see if they don't have a record. If they do not, get a letter so stating and follow steps 1-4 with the necessary modifications to the wording. Tracing her back to the first entry on the official house registration as dek ying age 4 months or something like that and having her village kamnan swearing she was born should do the trick.

Hope this gives you an idea of how to work it.

Thanks to all the respondents, in particular Noise - that's excellent advice and I'll take it from there.

[johnnymoretti]

If this is the wrong forum, please move. Other links seem to cover refugees and people who need a new birth certificate. My wife was born in Bang Konthi in 1963 and does not have a birth certificate, although she has an ID card. Thinks cert was 'lost' during relocation.

She tells me she cannot get a replacement/copy from the Amphoe at Bang Konthi - is she right? If so can anyone tell me where to get one. A forum on Bangkok Post suggested an Information Centre in Dusit Bangkok but reports suggest this is no longer operational, certainly the suggested link doesn't open up.

Any ideas?

Here are the steps I would recommend persuing (my wife had to take this route) . First, determine where she was born, i.e., at home or in a hospital. Back in 63 there were still lots of at home births. If at home...and I take it home is in Amphoe Bang Konthi.....

1. Most likely the amphoe said they could not give her a replacement birth certificate because they never issued one in the first place. At home births were only documented with the child's first entry in the amphoe records as an add to the house registration. Start with 1963 and search the old registration for her.
   
2. If her mother is still alive, get her and the village kamnan to go to the amphoe and sign an affidavit swearing the birth took place at home, no hospital birth certificate exists, and that the house registration documents the birth. If her mother is not alive, is the father or other close relative? What you are looking for is someone who was there at the time and would be someone the kamnan would know and vouch for.
   
3. The amphoe can then issue a substitute document saying words to the effect: "use this letter in lieu of a birth certificate as one was not issued for this home birth of girl child on this date 1963". It may be that Bang Konthi will tellher to take the letter from #2 and go to the amphoe where he current house registration is and get the substitute letter there.
   
4. Of course, take all the documentation you have showing maiden name, marriage(s)/divorces, etc., to provide a trail to the name she is currently using on the house registration.
   

If she was born in a hospital, check there to see if they don't have a record. If they do not, get a letter so stating and follow steps 1-4 with the necessary modifications to the wording. Tracing her back to the first entry on the official house registration as dek ying age 4 months or something like that and having her village kamnan swearing she was born should do the trick.

Hope this gives you an idea of how to work it.

This is what my wife did and it work out just fine. She was born in Udon. She had to travel home and spend time getting it together. She also had the letter translated into English with appropriate stamps (which is what they gave her) stating her place of birth and date, etc. We used this letter for her Green Card in the US and everything worked great.

Don't even think of doing anything illegal. It will catch up with you someday and may tear things apart. Not worth it.

Good luck!