Dynaset Ird-7200+2ci

[dsfbrit]

I have a 9 foot rotating dish system which has not worked for some time and I am in the process of repairing it. I have replaced the coax and control line 4-wire telephone cable and cleaned the connections, but it still does not work.

The set top box receiver may be the problem - It is a 5 year old Dynaset IRD-7200+2CI with 2 common interface for Irdeto or/and VIaccess. To access the channels I want to watch I need to install an Irdeto-2 card into one of the ports.

I am now about to get the top box receiver looked at.

Before I do this, as this box is 5 years old now, is it worth gettting fixed OR would it be better to get something new.

Also, I usually go to 'Mr Kim' in Pattaya for this work. He has been good in the past and was the original installer. This time though I have been to his shop twice to arrange a visit and he has not even called me.

Mind you its because he did not call that I have been doing the easy cabling work myself - good fun and in some ways I am glad ha hasn't called. Mind you getting to the LNB on top of the dish was a bit of a challenge - a long way up there on a wobbly ladder

I dont intend going back to Mr Kim a third time, so could anyone please recommend an installer or a place I could get the set box checked and the Irdeto-2 card installed.

Thanks for the advice.

[sammycic]

I have a 9 foot rotating dish system which has not worked for some time and I am in the process of repairing it. I have replaced the coax and control line 4-wire telephone cable and cleaned the connections, but it still does not work.

The set top box receiver may be the problem - It is a 5 year old Dynaset IRD-7200+2CI with 2 common interface for Irdeto or/and VIaccess. To access the channels I want to watch I need to install an Irdeto-2 card into one of the ports.

I am now about to get the top box receiver looked at.

Before I do this, as this box is 5 years old now, is it worth gettting fixed OR would it be better to get something new.

Also, I usually go to 'Mr Kim' in Pattaya for this work. He has been good in the past and was the original installer. This time though I have been to his shop twice to arrange a visit and he has not even called me.

Mind you its because he did not call that I have been doing the easy cabling work myself - good fun and in some ways I am glad ha hasn't called. Mind you getting to the LNB on top of the dish was a bit of a challenge - a long way up there on a wobbly ladder

I dont intend going back to Mr Kim a third time, so could anyone please recommend an installer or a place I could get the set box checked and the Irdeto-2 card installed.

Thanks for the advice.

try www.satthai

I think you will find what you are looking for. I use dreambox 500s does everything and relatively cheap.

[dsfbrit]

Thnaks Sammy - I will go and read the info on that web site.

edit: I found it - I think the link should be www.satthai.tv

[monty]

Satthai is good, although I'm not sure he'll come to Pattaya for anything less then a full install.

Sat receivers have become very cheap and carry a very low profit margin.

If I understand it correctly it is your dish which stopped moving. Most often the problem is with the actuator and not the receiver. Although a broken actuator (or just seized due to humidity/corrosion) might make a fuse blow in the receiver.

Maybe try the PSI guys (on Sukhumvit, few hundred meters before Soi Siam Country Club road when going towards Sattahip. Not sure they have boxes with CAM's as they are mostly into FTA channels, but they do know their stuff on moveable dishes and would most likely be able to pinpoint the exact problem!

There's another guy on Siam Country club road itself, not far up on the left side in those new shophouses. Hss a sat dish bolted to the floor in front of his shop... He's pretty new, no experience with him, but then again it's not really rocket science, and trouble shooting is easy with the proper tools...

[dsfbrit]

You're right Monty I think its the actuator that may then have blown something in the receiver. I would have thought that if the receiver was working at all, I would still be receiving some channels. It was after all tuned in to the satellites before it stopped working. I changed the coax to the LNB, which had been cut in several places by the installer and so was corroded. Same with the 4 wire connection to the actuator.

I may take the receiver box to get repaired and ask them to fit the Irdeto-2 port as well.

I am still reading through the equipment on that site sammy recommended, but not being an expert in this area am trying to see if there is a box that has the right type of 'accuator' driver. The box sammy recommended cannot drive a dish's movement.

I suspect one of those places you mentioned would check out my Dynaset and fit the Irdeto-2 option.

I would like to compare that option with buying a new receiver, but cannot seem to find one that 'drives' a dish's movement. Is there a technical 'buzzword' for this??? Actuator driver or something like that??? Does the 'driver' have to match the actuator or is that software controlled on the receiver???

For example this box would be great - but nothing there about driving the dish. None of them seem to have that feature

http://www.satthai.tv/2008/receiver_wavecom731.php

Thanks for the advice.

[dsfbrit]

I think I am understanding this better now. So perhaps I can use this sort of box with a new receiver:-

http://www.satthai.tv/2008/splitterswitch_wavecom.php#

In fact the more I think about it, I really dont need the dish to move as I only want to view one satellite in the future, so could perhaps just fix the dish manually and leave it at that.

[dsfbrit]

Ignore my previous post - I was getting frustrated with the da**ed thing. Its a new day so back to it

I have taken the top off the receiver and there is an Irdeto-2 card installed. I forgot I asked for this option when I had the dish installed. It also has ViAccess. Sadly it does not have a fuse anywhere.

So I am going to the PSI guys today to see if they can fix this receiver. I guess it would be just as well if I replace the actuator as well - as this is rusty due to the installer leaving a screw off the cover and the rain water getting in. Its very disappointing just how sloppy Mr Kims work has been. I thought he was a good quality repairer until I have had to inspect his work!

He also left screws off the LNB plastic cover and cut the coax at the base of the dish to repair it - leaving the connection underground where water collects. 'Surprisingly' the bit of plastic tape he put over the join did not protect against the small 'lake' that forms under that part of the dish when it rains. Why oh why does everything seem to be such a bodge-up in the LOS

Monty, is fitting the actuator the sort of job I could do. I am quite good at DIY, but usually keep away from electrical work that involves water AND electronics as I dont have the equipment nor in-depth knowledge. This task looks like removing one part and lining up the 'worm' that fits to the actuator and then pushes the dish - is it that easy???

Thanks again for the help

[monty]

Replacing the actuator is not that hard, but better to be with 2 persons, as obviously when you remove the old one, the dish wants to flop to one side. Even the mesh ones can be a tad heavy!

On another note, your LNB (the receiver head in the center of the dish) might be dead as well. They are susceptible to lighting strikes, and water as well.

As you noticed, most modern receivers have only Diseq controls. There are diseq actuators as well, but they tend to be very slow in moving your dish. The thing you linked is indeed the solution for this problem as it converts the diseq signals into plain electricity for your old style actuator.

[dsfbrit]

Thanks for the feedback Monty. I drove down to Mr Kim's opposite Tesco's on the Sukhumvit South Pattaya for the 3rd time at 9am today. This time I took the receiver box and caught Mr Kim in person as they were just opening up. I wont bother you with the whole story, but this is not the Mr Kim who over the past fer years has been so helpful. He didn't know what Irdeto-2 was (he did 5 years ago when he sold me the box with the Viaccess and Irdeto options)

He checked the receiver for me and said it did not work!

He then suggested I got UBC connection instead. I gently remined him he had installed that as well for me and he had in fact been to my place several times to repair it - needless to say I got the impression he is no longer interested in fixing my old kit - so I am on my own.

Fair enough. This is what I am planning to do, your thoughts would be appreciated:

- get the receiver box fixed at PSI near Index on the Sukhumvit

- get them to fit an Irdeto-2 cam - mind you if they cannot fit this not sure that the receiver is of any real use.

Get the receiver back home and see if I can now get any channels at all. The dish is pointing at Aguila - well it was before it did not work. So whether it moves or not I should at least know from a fault finding point of view tell me if the LNB to receiver is working.

The results of this, which may take a week, would then make me decide waht to do next.