triffid Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that - has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that- has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Fortuner... Padjero... Personally I have a Fortuner.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 New or second-hand? If S-H, what is the cut off year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Ford Everest, etc etc http://www.ford.co.th/servlet/ContentServe...N&c=DFYPage Edited August 25, 2009 by thaicbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that- has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Toyota Fortuner Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Isuzu MU 7 Ford Everest MY preference would be in that order. The first 2 ones are modern and have rear coil springs. All of them like 1 mill baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangsaenguy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Captiva if manual is available. Edited August 26, 2009 by bangsaenguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richm7 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that- has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Mind if I ask "why manual?". I guess you won't be driving in BKK! I've had a Fortuner (diesel/auto) for 3 years now. It's been very good, no problems at all and cheap to run. Leather seats, no signs of wear and tear and about THB1.2M (three years ago). I did ask the missus to jump in the back seat for some how's your father a few weeks ago but she wouldn't so it doesn't work for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 New or second-hand?If S-H, what is the cut off year? This an interesting tangential question. I would consider a second hand buy if - the car was not more than 2 years old - was amenable to a thorough and reliable check by its dealers in Thailand - if an import would have good service/spare parts availability here; & known to be ok in thai temperatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that- has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Toyota Fortuner Mitsubishi Pajero Sport Isuzu MU 7 Ford Everest MY preference would be in that order. The first 2 ones are modern and have rear coil springs. All of them like 1 mill baht. I was aware that the Pajero Sport was introduced quite recently; but the Fortuner, new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I want to buy an SUV that- has manual transmission - runs on diesel - will give me option to fit leather seats - is sturdy enough for a long term purchaser (some 7 years or more) - can be locally made or imported (eg Hyundai?) - must cost as much under 2 million as possible Was wondering what my choices are? Mind if I ask "why manual?". I guess you won't be driving in BKK! I've had a Fortuner (diesel/auto) for 3 years now. It's been very good, no problems at all and cheap to run. Leather seats, no signs of wear and tear and about THB1.2M (three years ago). I did ask the missus to jump in the back seat for some how's your father a few weeks ago but she wouldn't so it doesn't work for that. I won't be using it in Bangkok. But if I were I'd probably still buy manual - a cultural, inculcated thing I suppose. I was amused by your remark about your missus not jumping in the back even though I probably misunderstood your meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Any views on buying an expensive model (a european?) second hand meeting my criteria would also be welcome. Which? Where? Under 2 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 He meant it complies with "new" regulations that lifted restrictions on minimal length and leaf springs. That means it has better turning radius, better 4wd capabilities, and softer ride than MU-7. Pajero is not so new, if you consider it took Mitsu some three years to develop it from their Triton platform while Toyota introduced Fortuner only three months after Vigo. Both platforms - Vigo and Triton, are about the same age. Ford Everest is also based on the previous generation of Ranger truck, but, like MU7, they got new engines and other bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 He meant it complies with "new" regulations that lifted restrictions on minimal length and leaf springs. That means it has better turning radius, better 4wd capabilities, and softer ride than MU-7.Pajero is not so new, if you consider it took Mitsu some three years to develop it from their Triton platform while Toyota introduced Fortuner only three months after Vigo. Both platforms - Vigo and Triton, are about the same age. Ford Everest is also based on the previous generation of Ranger truck, but, like MU7, they got new engines and other bits. Any chance/news of something coming soon from Nissan? I can wait a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun240Z Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Heb jij dat monster gehad? Good old Dodge W200. Almost never breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun240Z Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Heb jij dat monster gehad?Good old Dodge W200. Almost never breaks. Jazeker Did it away after a while. Did run on LPG. This thing could stand anything haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Ford Everest, etc etchttp://www.ford.co.th/servlet/ContentServe...N&c=DFYPage didn't know these cars were so cheap in LOS...Retail price at THB 1,226,000 LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun240Z Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 It is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) Any views on buying an expensive model (a european?) second hand meeting my criteria would also be welcome. Which? Where? Under 2 million? Plenty of imports, but expect expensive to keep alive with difficulties finding parts and quality garages. Almost impossible to diagnose outside BKK, no computers to read OBD. Except BMW, in Phuket, Had yai, Pattaya and Chang Mai. But even thai BMW, driving between Phuket and BKK (900km), there is not one garage capable of reading OBD. Thats why we see BMWs on flatbeds on the highway all the time. Edited August 28, 2009 by katabeachbum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Ford Everest, etc etchttp://www.ford.co.th/servlet/ContentServe...N&c=DFYPage Looked at the website; it looks good to me. How new is in design etc - I don't mean just superficial tweaks? It's built in Thailand I presume. I'd like to read some reviews - any pointers to find some? Anyone have first hand feedback on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share Posted August 28, 2009 Does Nissan make market its Qashqai in Asia? Anyone know of prospects for this in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Ford Everest, etc etchttp://www.ford.co.th/servlet/ContentServe...N&c=DFYPage Looked at the website; it looks good to me. How new is in design etc - I don't mean just superficial tweaks? It's built in Thailand I presume. I'd like to read some reviews - any pointers to find some? Anyone have first hand feedback on it? Old platform, rather modern engine. Handbrake under the stearingwheel is like 20 years old. Rear leafspring. As I said, only Fortuner and pajero Sport are up to date and adapted to current LOS tax rules. Shorter wheelbase and rear coilsprings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) Does Nissan make market its Qashqai in Asia? Anyone know of prospects for this in Thailand? Nissan Murano is here 2.7 million for the 2.5lt 2WD and 4.4 million for the 3.5lt 4X4 Have seen a 2006 model for sale 2WD @ 1.799,000 baht Edit: Maybe the nearest to the Qashqai is a SUZUKI GRAND VITARA ? New 1,050,000 baht, 2008 model around 875,000 baht Edited August 28, 2009 by ignis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63Tommy1 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) Ford Everest, etc etchttp://www.ford.co.th/servlet/ContentServe...N&c=DFYPage Looked at the website; it looks good to me. How new is in design etc - I don't mean just superficial tweaks? It's built in Thailand I presume. I'd like to read some reviews - any pointers to find some? Anyone have first hand feedback on it? Old platform, rather modern engine. Handbrake under the stearingwheel is like 20 years old. Rear leafspring. As I said, only Fortuner and pajero Sport are up to date and adapted to current LOS tax rules. Shorter wheelbase and rear coilsprings The Ford is a really good 2nd hand buy, thai dont like the brand, the cars are good though and built in LOS (Land Of Smile), I belive its a good first buy car also if you plan to keep it for more than 3-4years. My problem with the Everest was the size, too big, and when i saw it the folding of the 3rd seat row was very primitive, thats better now. Rear leafsprings are not only bad news, they do fill a purpose, they dont extend up into the cargo or Passenger area and steal space there, they do however need to be long, and thats why The Ford Everest and Izu MU7 are longer than Fortuner and Pajazzo sport (I dont like the Mitsu). BTW what is the problem with handbrake in a classic position? Some like it some dont. Tommy Edited August 28, 2009 by 63Tommy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 BTW what is the problem with handbrake in a classic position? Some like it some dont.Tommy its been removed on all other vehicles in the world for safetyreasons. You loose your left knee in a small crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63Tommy1 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 BTW what is the problem with handbrake in a classic position? Some like it some dont.Tommy its been removed on all other vehicles in the world for safetyreasons. You loose your left knee in a small crash. Aha... Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) The Ford is a really good 2nd hand buy, thai dont like the brand, the cars are good though and built in LOS (Land Of Smile), I belive its a good first buy car also if you plan to keep it for more than 3-4years.My problem with the Everest was the size, too big, and when i saw it the folding of the 3rd seat row was very primitive, thats better now. Rear leafsprings are not only bad news, they do fill a purpose, they dont extend up into the cargo or Passenger area and steal space there, they do however need to be long, and thats why The Ford Everest and Izu MU7 are longer than Fortuner and Pajazzo sport (I dont like the Mitsu). BTW what is the problem with handbrake in a classic position? Some like it some dont. Tommy You seem to be implying that depreciation is high for the first few years but after 4 years its price level is similar to other thai SUVs of the same age. So if I am sure about keeping it for more than 4 years I may as well buy new? Have I understood you correctly? What in brief are the key differences between the Ford Everest and Escape that a buyer needs to consider? Does the Escape have a diesel option? A manual option? A leather seating option? Are they both equally dated designs? Is there a big difference in fuel economy/costs? Does the Escape also have the dangerous hand brake position? I've ruled out the Fortuner - just too boringly ubiquitous. What do you dislike about the Mitsubushi Pajero Sport? For the moment the Ford looks most interesting to me Edited August 30, 2009 by triffid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) The Escape is new or face lifted this year, is petrol, auto, but have leather seats option... The Escape is imported into Thailand from the Philippines... Chevrolet Captiva... Commonrail Turbo Diesel intercooler 5sp Tiptronic so you can drive it as a manual, Leather seats option....Built in Thailand... around the same price as the Escape http://www.chevrolet.co.th/content_data/AP...olet/index.html Edited August 30, 2009 by ignis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbkk64 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Volvo XC 90 2nd hand. Great car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Volvo XC 90 2nd hand. Great car! Agree a great car, but never seen a second hand Diesel or a manual XC90 in the same price range [a 2003 Petrol is around the same price] a second hand Turbo Diesel XC90 is around the same price/year as a BMW X3 Turbo Diesel 2005 Landrover Discovery Turbo Diesel is in the same price range. as is a 2007 Turbo Diesel Freelander... To have all 2nd hand in the same sort of price range then a MERCEDES-BENZ ML-CLASS ML 270 CDI 2.7 MT 2002 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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