george Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Top universities hit jackpot Nine universities will be granted up to Bt9 billion in research funds between 2010 and 2012. King Mongkut's University of Technology Thonburi, Suranaree University of Technology, as well as Chulalongkorn, Mahidol, Kasetsart, Thammasat, Chiang Mai, Khon Kaen, and Prince of Songkla universities were selected from among 15 applicants, said Education Minister Jurin Laksanawisit, who heads the National Research University Project. "We expect the chosen universities to conduct research that will improve people's quality of life. We want to see practical applications," Jurin said. Each participating university must produce at least 100 research studies per year. Jurin said his ministry |had also earmarked Bt3billion for research at 69 other universities. -- The Nation 2009-08-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Some nice new cars in the University car parks then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I think most Universities are working on projects/research and then apply for funds. Isn't this a little backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 A good idea. Let's hope it's money wisely spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surface Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I think most Universities are working on projects/research and then apply for funds. Isn't this a little backwards? Just what Thailand needs, another Farang thinks he knows everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I think most Universities are working on projects/research and then apply for funds. Isn't this a little backwards? Just what Thailand needs, another Farang thinks he knows everything! OK, please tell us what you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 We want to see practical applications OK, 5 million to me=10 million to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 A good idea. Let's hope it's money wisely spent. Good news. Our research facility at CMU has several significant research projects going and a boost in funding would be great. BTW, for those who may not be aware, but universities in Thailand can not do research just for research sake but must have a practical purpose that is beneficial to Thailand in commercial and industrial areas. One of these reasons is to be less dependent on outside resources and more competitive in the world market. In other words, doing research to get that extra significant digit in a theory is frowned upon. As for the comment about being "a little bit backward" note this part > "were selected from among 15 applicants" I know at CMU we've been working on a proposal for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Peanuts. Just the athletic program at my alma mater (UT) gets about 2.7-3 billion Baht, and they don't have to research anything other than how to keep 'roids and EPO's undetectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Top universities hit jackpotNine universities will be granted up to Bt9 billion in research funds between 2010 and 2012. King Mongkut's University of Technology Thonburi, Suranaree University of Technology, as well as Chulalongkorn, Mahidol, Kasetsart, Thammasat, Chiang Mai, Khon Kaen, and Prince of Songkla universities were selected from among 15 applicants, said Education Minister Jurin Laksanawisit, who heads the National Research University Project. "We expect the chosen universities to conduct research that will improve people's quality of life. We want to see practical applications," Jurin said. Each participating university must produce at least 100 research studies per year. Jurin said his ministry |had also earmarked Bt3billion for research at 69 other universities. -- The Nation 2009-08-25 What a joke... If wasn't such a shitty mood I might have laughed. 9 billion baht will go straight down the tube. Come on! They want universities to have research projects to find out what will improve quality of life in Thailand for Thai people? Forgive me for being a tad cynical, but how about this: -Start at primary school teaching kids to ask questions and be able to critize. No more rote learning. -Stop all corruption, starting with politicians, the police force, businesses, customs etc. Corruption is a top->down affair. -Stop this Nong Pee <deleted>. If no one ever tells higher people that their ideas are crap, how will one ever get anywhere. -Lose the all encompassing face saving attitude. Like in many other countries, the very culture of a country is the biggest impediment to serious advances. Just look at Saudi. This is, once again, a farce. Good luck Tywais. I hope your CMU comes up with something sensible that will be implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groongthep Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Peanuts. Just the athletic program at my alma mater (UT) gets about 2.7-3 billion Baht, and they don't have to research anything other than how to keep 'roids and EPO's undetectable. The overwhelming share of money going to athletic departments at major US universities comes from private donations by wealthy alumi not the government. Edited August 25, 2009 by Groongthep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 -Start at primary school teaching kids to ask questions and be able to critize. No more rote learning. Just to comment on that, at CMU there is a program in place specifically to research into and propose solutions to these weaknesses in the education system. You may be surprised how many university ajarns are aware of these problems and are taking pro-active stances to resolve them. But you probably know, it is not going to happen overnight and will take a long time before the changes start creeping in to the schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUMBNUTTS Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Just imagine all the rhetoric had this been bad news - whats wrong with you lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Peanuts. Just the athletic program at my alma mater (UT) gets about 2.7-3 billion Baht, and they don't have to research anything other than how to keep 'roids and EPO's undetectable. The overwhelming share of money going to athletic departments at major US universities comes from private donations by wealthy alumi not the government. Not at mine, ours is state funds heavy, the most in the nation at last check, these are funds permanently allocated to the university. I'm sure local universities here would love a similar deal instead of funds periodically allocated. Might see some nice stadiums being built in addition to university regents enriching themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Forgive my cynicism, but I too have played the funding game, or rather been a pawn in negotiations. This is really a different approach than scientific research in the rest of the world. When a government funds, there is usually a policy statement first that identifies the subjects of importance first. i.e Priorities are set at the national level such as improved rice yields or biofuel derived from algae, and then the funds are disbursed based upon the proposals. For example, The US National Science Foundation has been sponsoring undergrad science (US citizen/resident) students at 3 of the better facilities in Thailand; Mahidol, Chulabhorn and Chulalongkorn for a few years. The funding for the 10 week program is guaranteed at $4,000 + airfare + housing. The subject is specified as organic chemistry and proposals must be submitted first. Governments will give grants to sustain various faculties, but this article is about pure research. I can't believe the funding format. It is a recipe for misappropriation. Someone must have mangled the story, it's just to wacky. Edited August 26, 2009 by geriatrickid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale8 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Hello, I hope this funding will keep more people out of trouble and they should do more research on how the tight and short uniforms on the ladies can and will improve the life of many more people in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuffy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 -Start at primary school teaching kids to ask questions and be able to critize. No more rote learning. Just to comment on that, at CMU there is a program in place specifically to research into and propose solutions to these weaknesses in the education system. You may be surprised how many university ajarns are aware of these problems and are taking pro-active stances to resolve them. But you probably know, it is not going to happen overnight and will take a long time before the changes start creeping in to the schools. Thats rather facinating Tywais. Nice to know that some people are trying to fix the education system. In case anyone read that thinking I'm just alking about thailand. I'm not. School was bad enough back home, if they discover thigns beneficial to thai education I hope it helps world wide. I like a world view as opposed to an independent view. Something to make sure globaly we get better. Not more independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dttk0009 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Research? That's hilarious. The people doing research will be lucky to see even a fraction of this money. It's going straight into someone's pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 A good idea. Let's hope it's money wisely spent. Good news. Our research facility at CMU has several significant research projects going and a boost in funding would be great. BTW, for those who may not be aware, but universities in Thailand can not do research just for research sake but must have a practical purpose that is beneficial to Thailand in commercial and industrial areas. One of these reasons is to be less dependent on outside resources and more competitive in the world market. In other words, doing research to get that extra significant digit in a theory is frowned upon. As for the comment about being "a little bit backward" note this part > "were selected from among 15 applicants" I know at CMU we've been working on a proposal for a while now. Thanks for this informative post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Texas Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Some nice new cars in the University car parks then. Totally agree with you.......seen it too many times to count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Research? That's hilarious. The people doing research will be lucky to see even a fraction of this money. It's going straight into someone's pockets. Goes without saying, doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dttk0009 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Research? That's hilarious. The people doing research will be lucky to see even a fraction of this money. It's going straight into someone's pockets. Goes without saying, doesn't it. Indeed. C'est la vie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasreeve17 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Some nice new cars in the University car parks then. Totally agree with you.......seen it too many times to count. It's sad to say, but true. However, if there's accountability and visibility (with regard to results) which I presume (naively?) there must be... then some of the money must trickle through for research. Research is done here, some of it must be good (Thais are pretty sharp when they apply themselves), but I also agree with Geriatrickid that the format is wrong and open to abuse. No, the format is designed to be purposely and easily abused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groongthep Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Peanuts. Just the athletic program at my alma mater (UT) gets about 2.7-3 billion Baht, and they don't have to research anything other than how to keep 'roids and EPO's undetectable. The overwhelming share of money going to athletic departments at major US universities comes from private donations by wealthy alumi not the government. Not at mine, ours is state funds heavy, the most in the nation at last check, these are funds permanently allocated to the university. I'm sure local universities here would love a similar deal instead of funds periodically allocated. Might see some nice stadiums being built in addition to university regents enriching themselves. From your former avatar I thought you were a graduate of UT Austin. According to their official site: Longhorn Foundation, The official site of the University of Texas Athletic Department their athletic department receives no state or university money whatsoever. Hook 'Em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Just imagine all the rhetoric had this been bad news - whats wrong with you lot? It IS good news - Thailand is fast becoming a HUB for starting research projects intended to receive government / taxpayer money in the form of grants, and the university car parks will indeed be improved by the display of more expensive cars, thus mitigating the effects of the economic downturn. And even more Thai senior education officials will be able to afford to send their kids abroad for their education, thus improving the pool of qualified staff for the future. So it is a win-win situation. Why can't you look on the bright side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukra Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Peanuts. Just the athletic program at my alma mater (UT) gets about 2.7-3 billion Baht, and they don't have to research anything other than how to keep 'roids and EPO's undetectable. The overwhelming share of money going to athletic departments at major US universities comes from private donations by wealthy alumi not the government. Not at mine, ours is state funds heavy, the most in the nation at last check, these are funds permanently allocated to the university. I'm sure local universities here would love a similar deal instead of funds periodically allocated. Might see some nice stadiums being built in addition to university regents enriching themselves. From your former avatar I thought you were a graduate of UT Austin. According to their official site: Longhorn Foundation, The official site of the University of Texas Athletic Department their athletic department receives no state or university money whatsoever. Hook 'Em UT = University of Timbuktu? There really and actually is such an institution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukseeda Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 A good idea. Let's hope it's money wisely spent. Good news. Our research facility at CMU has several significant research projects going and a boost in funding would be great. BTW, for those who may not be aware, but universities in Thailand can not do research just for research sake but must have a practical purpose that is beneficial to Thailand in commercial and industrial areas. One of these reasons is to be less dependent on outside resources and more competitive in the world market. In other words, doing research to get that extra significant digit in a theory is frowned upon. As for the comment about being "a little bit backward" note this part > "were selected from among 15 applicants" I know at CMU we've been working on a proposal for a while now. I take your points, but surely it would be better overall if individual research proposals were allowed to apply for funding rather than universities getting lump sums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 From your former avatar I thought you were a graduate of UT Austin. According to their official site: Longhorn Foundation, The official site of the University of Texas Athletic Department their athletic department receives no state or university money whatsoever. Hook 'Em Texas Ex indeed. And yes, I stand corrected. Hook 'Em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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