noithip Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 On another point, I noticed that Thaksin denied rumours that he had cancer. I heard this rumour before the interview from some one with hi-so connections who said a well known Thai doctor had been flown out to Dubai to examine Thaksin and diagnosed T3 stage prostate cancer. Whether it's true or not it has obviously done the rounds pretty well for Thaksin to feel obliged to refute it. First Mania (Megalomania), and now cancer? What sad news! Hope he has the best doctors money can buy to help him, otherwise he won't be able to serve his last term as ex-PM... his prison term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 On another point, I noticed that Thaksin denied rumours that he had cancer. I heard this rumour before the interview from some one with hi-so connections who said a well known Thai doctor had been flown out to Dubai to examine Thaksin and diagnosed T3 stage prostate cancer. Whether it's true or not it has obviously done the rounds pretty well for Thaksin to feel obliged to refute it. First Mania (Megalomania), and now cancer? What sad news! Hope he has the best doctors money can buy to help him, otherwise he won't be able to serve his last term as ex-PM... his prison term. If someone wanted to keep a secret about their health condition, why on earth would they want to fly a "well known Thai doctor" over to diagnose and treat it? I am sure his prostate could handle treatment from a farang. I understand patient to doctor privacy, but if you know anything about Thai culture, no one here is even remotely capable of keeping an important secret. Don't they have doctors in other parts of the country willing to fly to Dubai to treat such ailments, or is flying a specialist from the US or the UK on private jet completely beyond the pail of possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 How dares Thaiksin to question the integrity of a "Justice system" which is able to catch and punish within a few hours everything a Red Shirt does, but is unable to bring the PAD to Justice for their crimes against the nation. Hyperbolic troll. Really? I wouldn't have put it quite this way but the fundamental point being made is sound. Yes, of course you wouldn't either be bothered to use facts when you argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Good, It would be nicer if they could just abduct him and have him brought back here for justice, instead of letting him instigate riots and other treasonous acts from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsch22 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I am surprised they didn't block it for contempt of court. Thaksin apparently criticised the Supreme Court for convicting him for the trivial matter of giving spousal consent to his wife's land purchase from a state agency in a rigged auction at an artificial low price when he was prime minister. Under Thai law criticising a court decision is for better or worse a criminal offence. Then presumably if an appeal judge overturns a lower judgement because it was wrong, then the appeal judge will be prosecuted? And then what would happen to the prosecutor when he criticises the words of the appeal judge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noithip Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Good, It would be nicer if they could just abduct him and have him brought back here for justice, instead of letting him instigate riots and other treasonous acts from abroad. Wouldn't mind the plane crashing somewhere in the indian ocean on the way back either, justice in the indian ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Good luck on shutting this guy up! shut him and freedom of speech is squashed. Irrelevant if you agree with him or not, a real democracy HAS freedom of speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 He said a recent interview by Thaksin on a radio programme had a "direct impact" on the country and could worsen the current political situation as the ex-leader made negative comments against Thailand, the Privy Council and the justice system. Thaksin's speach has indeed a "direct impact" on the country with his negative comments about the "justice system". How dares Thaiksin to question the integrity of a "Justice system" which is able to catch and punish within a few hours everything a Red Shirt does, but is unable to bring the PAD to Justice for their crimes against the nation. How dares Thaiksin to question the integrity of a "Justice system" which is able to catch and punish within a few hours the people behind the attack on a PAD leader, but is unable to bring the PAD leaders to Justice for their crimes against the nation. Cutting freee speech as well?????????? There is little left for Absint what is damaging this country ........... THAILAND????????????????? BURMA WITHE ELECTRICITY I like the way you think. There's at least 2 us farang that see reality of whats going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldenAtwoody Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 maybe thaksin can move to england or the u.s. and have his own reality tv show I can't imagine why he doesn't just fade away and enjoy the money. How many of us, looking at each other over a pint, have said, "If I only had ONE million...."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noithip Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Good luck on shutting this guy up! shut him and freedom of speech is squashed. Irrelevant if you agree with him or not, a real democracy HAS freedom of speech. Real Democracy like what? The USA put people into secret camps all over the world, because they deemed them "a threat to national security", wether they were or not. If it is the kind of democracy you are talking about, Thailand has to learn a lot from them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiGirlHunter Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 i really think the here soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 All communist countries restrict or prohibit freedom of speech or personal views It has nothing to do with free press. He is taking advantage of situation. No criminal should get free press that he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalminer Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 ...you are absolutely right. Only the yellow mob made it possible, that the vote buying ruling party finally had to step down. We remember, that the ECs ruling to do so was done in May 2008. It took five months of protest and peaceful demonstrations for the yellow mob to learn, that those, who broke the constitutional law, will rather change the constitution and cling to power, than stepping down. The yellow mob finally decided to walk to the airport. And they did a successful job. They forced the lawbreakers out of the government. That is practised democracy. Sure thing, that those, who saved the leftovers of democracy in Thailand, deserve protection. It took five months of protest and PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS for the yellow mob .... Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your YELLOW MOB attacks a motorcycle taxi driver and almost kill him. Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your TELLOW MOB lynch citizens because they allegedly were a carrying baseball stick. Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your YELLOW MOB kidnap citizens (a former PM), drags him on a podium and defamate him publicy. Are you serious and can you say "PEACEFULL DEMONSTRATION" without blushing and keeping your head down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2552 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 "PM's Office Minister Satit Wongnongtaey has told MCOT, the state-run media company under his supervision, not to allow fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra'scomments on air again, saying they were a threat to peace." "Satit said yesterday he would allow MCOT executives to decide what to do and he would not intervene." Which is it? Counterproductive I feel. Freedomless press on the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2552 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 This is becoming a Soap Opera with the media and with Taksin. Why not have someone go after this jerk, grab his anus, hand cuff him, gagem, and dragem back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2552 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Come to think of it, when they bring him back and they land at the airport, bag the rest of the jerks that are ripping off tourists, throw them all in the paddy wagon together and haulem all away to the monkey house; and throw away the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffi Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Citizens are entitled to free speech although we know that doesn't exist in Thailand but fugitives of their own choosing? Why should they be given the same rights as ordinary citizens? All communist countries restrict or prohibit freedom of speech or personal views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Jom and his bosses at Mcot were probably just testing the water.They, of all people, know how to abuse their positions and cry about media freedom at the same time. These guys never ran a politically unbiased story in their lives. Perhaps they thought if Democrats are not ordering to run any propaganda they can start working for the old boss. Satit had to put them in place. All this complaining about media freedom is for internet junkies consumption only. LOL LOL LOL Yeah, 'the democrats are not ordering propaganda' - So what about the fake attack on Abhisit's car? The blue shirts in Pattaya, the complete backing of the power to be by media showing him everywhere giving 'encouraging' speeches on all topics but what the real situation is. These gangsters finally managed to play the big game called G20... and if you are of this magnitude, nothing is left to 'coincidences'. And so you just need like the US had their Saddam's and Osama's somebody who is outside the system being a 'threat', producing controversy but just distracting from the stinking fish head. All these democratic systems are wonderful fakes, keeping people in oblivion, having to choose one side and opposing the other. This is the game of the oligarchs which names haven't changed neither in this country nor in the others where families can run a state for some 60 years, see Singapore. It does not matter if you are yellow shirt or red shirt supporter. You will always just be the pawn and suffer for the plans of the families who choose at time if democrats/republicans are giving the short handle for 4 years. It's ILLUSION of the biggest proportion. Forget the color revolutions and the other B$ It's about the haves and have not's that's all that matters. And it seems they breed those deceivers in places like Oxford, Princeton and Yale, where the 'haves' mingle and decide the next game. Look through it. P.S. and if you get lost watching the game all day you might miss one of those wonderful sunsets by the sea... Does Thaksin only have one agenda?: Is it to come back to this country without fear of imprisonment and get his 79bn baht back? Will this man manipulate or destroy anything that gets in his way? Hitler? Hussain? Mussolini? Stalin? Thaksin? Is everything else just hogwash? Is Thaksin's call for democracy just another piece of clever manipulation? Is he truly a democrat? Who were the 2000 drug dealers assassinated at the commencement of his premiership? How many political opponents were amongst that number? Was Thaksin ousted by the military because they knew something that has not been made public? Was this to do with waiting for a power vacuum at the very top of this country and then seizing total control in the manner of the other fore-mentioned dictators? I ask people to look beyond their immediate prejudices and ask the hard questions. Only then will the truth prevail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkbrad Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It is hard to see what the problem is. Thaksin is a fugitive to justice, so why should he be allowed airtime. If he wants to be afforded the privilege of airing his views then he should return to face the consequences of the crimes that he has been found guilty of. Once he has completed any sentence that he is to serve, only then he should be allowed to have airtime. How many other convicted criminals that are on the run are there that have been allowed the same leniency as Thaksin has to speak out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHYTALK Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 What would you expect from a government that was put in power with mob rule? This government, if you can call it a government owes the yellow shirts big time and MUST protect them. ...you are absolutely right. Only the yellow mob made it possible, that the vote buying ruling party finally had to step down. We remember, that the ECs ruling to do so was done in May 2008. It took five months of protest and peaceful demonstrations for the yellow mob to learn, that those, who broke the constitutional law, will rather change the constitution and cling to power, than stepping down. The yellow mob finally decided to walk to the airport. And they did a successful job. They forced the lawbreakers out of the government. That is practised democracy. Sure thing, that those, who saved the leftovers of democracy in Thailand, deserve protection. And just who do you think financed the yellow shirts? democracy is the law of the majority and should be achieved via the ballot box and true democracy is a long way from reality here in Thailand. The real pandemic gripping the country is not swine flu but corruption. You are right, the government should be elected by the ballot box and not by vote buying. And who cares where the money for the yellows comes from? All political groups ore parties are being funded by the industry or individuals, or whomever. Even in "advanced" democracies like Germany, parties are super rich. See it this way in Thailand: The pigs are changing, the pig trough will be the same. Politics here and everwhere is all about for how long and how effective one can sink his/her trunk into the sugar jar of the nation. In Thailand it is commonplace, with all these tiny variations of corruption, within the EU it is done more or less undercover, by tax evading (Malta is the new Heaven), and graft. Examples on demand. But this is another topic, isn't it? Party funding has become a real issue in true democracies. Take the uk for example where discussion is well on to allow only state funding of political parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHYTALK Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Where is Thai politics heading? In the opposite direction to electoral democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Where is Thai politics heading? In the opposite direction to electoral democracy. Yes, that is what I fear too if Thaksin is allowed back into the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 ...you are absolutely right. Only the yellow mob made it possible, that the vote buying ruling party finally had to step down. We remember, that the ECs ruling to do so was done in May 2008. It took five months of protest and peaceful demonstrations for the yellow mob to learn, that those, who broke the constitutional law, will rather change the constitution and cling to power, than stepping down. The yellow mob finally decided to walk to the airport. And they did a successful job. They forced the lawbreakers out of the government. That is practised democracy. Sure thing, that those, who saved the leftovers of democracy in Thailand, deserve protection. It took five months of protest and PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS for the yellow mob .... Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your YELLOW MOB attacks a motorcycle taxi driver and almost kill him. Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your TELLOW MOB lynch citizens because they allegedly were a carrying baseball stick. Do a search on YouTube and look at the many movies how your YELLOW MOB kidnap citizens (a former PM), drags him on a podium and defamate him publicy. Are you serious and can you say "PEACEFULL DEMONSTRATION" without blushing and keeping your head down? There were peaceful demonstrations, and as you have to admit, there are always some black sheep, within all these demonstrations, who then take the advantage of the situation and mess around. They even might have being paid by the "other" side. Who knows. But the majority of the people were peaceful, during the demonstrations of either the Reds or Yellows. Cool it with some paper, honey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alstaxi Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 //General Notice//Please use original names when referring to a person. It will reduce the risk to have a posting deleted Thanks for your cooperation! Webfact Original, as opposed to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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moskito Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 maybe thaksin can move to england or the u.s. and have his own reality tv show Best idea of all, he can interwiew some of the worlds best known Thai Superstars from Thaisoaps.....I guess thats the HIT in worldwide media But btw, with all this money this guy made in the past he just can lean back and relax, instead he really cares about his (former) country, we really should honour that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicSurfer Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 MCOT told not to broadcast Thaksin's remarksBy The Nation Published on September 8, 2009 [bThepchai Yong, the station's director, said the special report about diamond mining was aimed at telling the problem of "blood diamonds" in Africa, where mining is done in a war zone and finances the conflict. He said footage of Thaksin's comment was shown in order to present the other side of the story, although he admitted the ex-leader could capitalise on the opportunity. -- The Nation 2009/08/09 I haven't read all the pages of comments, but from the first page, looks like everyone missed this most damaging of all quotes.... Are they actually admitting that Thaksin is involved in the sale of "Blood Diamonds" ????? Now there is a leader for you.... always thinking about the people!!!! CS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumfoord Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Thepchai Yong, the station's director, said the special report about diamond mining was aimed at telling the problem of "blood diamonds" in Africa, where mining is done in a war zone and finances the conflict. He said footage of Thaksin's comment was shown in order to present the other side of the story, although he admitted the ex-leader could capitalise on the opportunity. -- The Nation 2009/08/09 I haven't read all the pages of comments, but from the first page, looks like everyone missed this most damaging of all quotes.... Are they actually admitting that Thaksin is involved in the sale of "Blood Diamonds" ????? Now there is a leader for you.... always thinking about the people!!!! CS No. nobody admitting that Thaksin is involved in the sale of "Blood Diamonds. you got that wrong. according to Thepchai Yong, the station's director, they run a report about the so called "blood diamonds" of Africa. but not all diamonds from africa are blood diamonds. to present the other side of the diamond business, the normal, non bloody business they used Thaksins activities in the diamond sector as example and so they let Thaksin say something into the mic and gave him a little air time. Thepchai said also that Thaksin could take advantage of his airtime and not talk only about his clean, non bloody diamond business, but make Thaksin propaganda, call for revolution, start the apocalypse or whatever. read a transcription of the interview here: http://www.prachatai.com/journal/2009/09/25725 decide yourself if it is a a threat to peace. because thaksin got airtime at all PM's Office Minister Satit "So why do [the media] need freedom?" Wongnongtaey got gaga as usual. read here what they think at the Bangkok Post about this http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion...d-press-freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhiser Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 All communist countries restrict or prohibit freedom of speech or personal views The US and the UK have as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 because thaksin got airtime at all PM's Office Minister Satit "So why do [the media] need freedom?" Wongnongtaey got gaga as usual.read here what they think at the Bangkok Post about this http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion...d-press-freedom Where did you get this quote from? It's not in the BP article you linked. Are you, by any chance, putting your own words into Satit's mouth and then castigating him for that? And Veera is being naive there - state media should not be broadcasting PR pieces for convicted fugitives who call the state judiciary a joke. Maybe Chom didn't break any particular laws, but so didn't Satit. Technically they are both clear. The desire to free state media from govt propaganda doesn't mean that it should carry anti-government propaganda instead. >>>> A few weeks after the airport takeover most of the tourists were back for New Year holidays. The effect was short-lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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