Nsr 150

[MaiChai]

The CBR150 is a much lighter bike than the NSR150 and with the 4 stroke engine has much better low speed torque. It is also less thirsty fuel wise than the NSR. So its a better city bike in terms of maneveourability, etc. The NSR also feels quite dated. I have a first generation NSR150 with the square front light and a proarm; the earlier bike is much heavy and rides better in my opinion; I mean it seems to stick to the road better. You sit higher up on the proarm that the earlier bike. These NSRs are now getting on and you will most certainly need to spend time and money getting them up to spec. My proarm is still not right, but I am out of the country (I think it needs a new clutch, which I will investigate when I am back). Anyway, the NSRs are good heavy bikes for the somewhat larger farang; not much of a city bike, the Finos will out accelerate you initially, but you can leave them behind once you work your way up through the gears! Parts are easy to get, and quite reasonably priced from Honda if it has 'Made in Thailand' on it; if its 'Made in Japan' then they are more expensive, but not excessivly so. I personally don't like the CBR, I guess its engine size is too close to a Wave 125 and it doesn't sound hugely different from a Wave!

[Powerband]

That's funny, if you are completely certain your bike was a 1995 (old 1994 stock maybe?) the frame is different from the other one in this post. The other one has a different frame and rear foot mounts, the older style had rear foot mounts welded on, the newer ones bolted on.

The exhaust pipes between the two style frames should also be different. The triangular headlight version shares the same exhaust as the proarm, and sports 3 spoke mags, compared to the older 6 spokes.

Somethings fishy somewhere.

Restoring a NSR 150 would be a nice little project.

[MaiChai]

is your frame the old type or the newer type?

have an 18" wheel on the back?

I bought the bike new in 1995. Sorry to say that I no longer have it. Don't know the answers to your questions, but I have posted three different pictures of it in this thread so far, including the one below. Maybe you can look at the pictures and tell what type of frame it is. I don't know the difference between the new and old frames.

I am hoping to find and restore one like it when I get back to Thailand for good. Amazing little bike.

Thats the old frame. The newer frame box sections are more oval like and modern looking, and I suspect use thinner steel (or a different type of steel/alloy that is lighter?). Lighter means better performance/fuel consumption I guess. As far as I know there are three NSR versions: a squarel headlight/rear cluster RR (the earlier version), a later RR with same lights as SP and regular rear wheel arms, and an SP with the proarm. Ozmick tells me there is also a very rare last model with a single elliptical h/light, almost all painted bronze, though he thinks it may have a different model name.

I have the proarm shop manual if anyone needs it (can be used for the other models as the engine, etc are basically the same).

Edited September 22, 2009 by MaiChai

[Issanman]

I am only certain that I bought it new in mid 1995 and was told it was a new (updated?) model. Could have been BS.

My bike matched exactly the bike in the brochures available at that time.

I still remember the sound...

[Powerband]

The CBR150 is a much lighter bike than the NSR150 and with the 4 stroke engine has much better low speed torque. It is also less thirsty fuel wise than the NSR. So its a better city bike in terms of maneveourability, etc. The NSR also feels quite dated. I have a first generation NSR150 with the square front light and a proarm; the earlier bike is much heavy and rides better in my opinion; I mean it seems to stick to the road better. You sit higher up on the proarm that the earlier bike. These NSRs are now getting on and you will most certainly need to spend time and money getting them up to spec. My proarm is still not right, but I am out of the country (I think it needs a new clutch, which I will investigate when I am back). Anyway, the NSRs are good heavy bikes for the somewhat larger farang; not much of a city bike, the Finos will out accelerate you initially, but you can leave them behind once you work your way up through the gears! Parts are easy to get, and quite reasonably priced from Honda if it has 'Made in Thailand' on it; if its 'Made in Japan' then they are more expensive, but not excessivly so. I personally don't like the CBR, I guess its engine size is too close to a Wave 125 and it doesn't sound hugely different from a Wave!

I think you may need to do some work on your bike. Sounds like your clutch is set too high, bet you have to release it quite a bit before it goes.

[Powerband]

is your frame the old type or the newer type?

have an 18" wheel on the back?

I bought the bike new in 1995. Sorry to say that I no longer have it. Don't know the answers to your questions, but I have posted three different pictures of it in this thread so far, including the one below. Maybe you can look at the pictures and tell what type of frame it is. I don't know the difference between the new and old frames.

I am hoping to find and restore one like it when I get back to Thailand for good. Amazing little bike.

Thats the old frame. The newer frame box sections are more oval like and modern looking, and I suspect use thinner steel (or a different type of steel/alloy that is lighter?). Lighter means better performance/fuel consumption I guess. As far as I know there are three NSR versions: a squarel headlight/rear cluster RR (the earlier version), a later RR with same lights as SP and regular rear wheel arms, and an SP with the proarm. Ozmick tells me there is also a very rare last model with a single elliptical h/light, almost all painted bronze, though he thinks it may have a different model name.

I have the proarm shop manual if anyone needs it (can be used for the other models as the engine, etc are basically the same).

That would be the FSX in rust orange or teal. Thinner than the NSR.

[Issanman]

I have the proarm shop manual if anyone needs it (can be used for the other models as the engine, etc are basically the same).

Would love to get that manual from you for future reference. I am sure I will need one at some point.

[MaiChai]

The CBR150 is a much lighter bike than the NSR150 and with the 4 stroke engine has much better low speed torque. It is also less thirsty fuel wise than the NSR. So its a better city bike in terms of maneveourability, etc. The NSR also feels quite dated. I have a first generation NSR150 with the square front light and a proarm; the earlier bike is much heavy and rides better in my opinion; I mean it seems to stick to the road better. You sit higher up on the proarm that the earlier bike. These NSRs are now getting on and you will most certainly need to spend time and money getting them up to spec. My proarm is still not right, but I am out of the country (I think it needs a new clutch, which I will investigate when I am back). Anyway, the NSRs are good heavy bikes for the somewhat larger farang; not much of a city bike, the Finos will out accelerate you initially, but you can leave them behind once you work your way up through the gears! Parts are easy to get, and quite reasonably priced from Honda if it has 'Made in Thailand' on it; if its 'Made in Japan' then they are more expensive, but not excessivly so. I personally don't like the CBR, I guess its engine size is too close to a Wave 125 and it doesn't sound hugely different from a Wave!

I think you may need to do some work on your bike. Sounds like your clutch is set too high, bet you have to release it quite a bit before it goes.

Trouble is some muppet overtightened the clutch cover bolts and stripped threads on the crankcase and thus the bolt that holds the bracket for the clutch cable is threaded into the cover and not the crankcase. Horrible. The engine for the older NSR is less abused and all the bolts thread in properly for the clutch and alternator covers. So there may be some issue with the cable adjustment. Also the clutch spring bolts had been overtightened to the point where the bolts were stretched and in danger of snapping and I had to put new bolts in. I tried to torque it down to the recommendations in the shop manual but could not get the torque setting right, so I set it same as the older NSR (the clutch cover was swapped with the older NSR because again the same muppet had snapped off the aluminium that holds the tachometer gear in place; god knows how he managed this). When I am back I will take the clutch apart and inspect it for wear, etc. I was looking for an old NSR engine to get a new clutch cover; will continue with this when I return. Removing the clutch requires a special Honda socket, that I don't have (I can get it online in the UK for 15 quid though), hence why I have not taken it apart. My TZR also needs a new piston/cylinder skim as the plug gets flooded with oil, but thats another story, and another job to do...

[MaiChai]

FSX: Old RR without proarm, pretty headlight and return to a single seat: http://www.honda.co.jp/collection-hall/2r/...fsx150_1998.jpg

[Powerband]

The CBR150 is a much lighter bike than the NSR150 and with the 4 stroke engine has much better low speed torque. It is also less thirsty fuel wise than the NSR. So its a better city bike in terms of maneveourability, etc. The NSR also feels quite dated. I have a first generation NSR150 with the square front light and a proarm; the earlier bike is much heavy and rides better in my opinion; I mean it seems to stick to the road better. You sit higher up on the proarm that the earlier bike. These NSRs are now getting on and you will most certainly need to spend time and money getting them up to spec. My proarm is still not right, but I am out of the country (I think it needs a new clutch, which I will investigate when I am back). Anyway, the NSRs are good heavy bikes for the somewhat larger farang; not much of a city bike, the Finos will out accelerate you initially, but you can leave them behind once you work your way up through the gears! Parts are easy to get, and quite reasonably priced from Honda if it has 'Made in Thailand' on it; if its 'Made in Japan' then they are more expensive, but not excessivly so. I personally don't like the CBR, I guess its engine size is too close to a Wave 125 and it doesn't sound hugely different from a Wave!

I think you may need to do some work on your bike. Sounds like your clutch is set too high, bet you have to release it quite a bit before it goes.

Trouble is some muppet overtightened the clutch cover bolts and stripped threads on the crankcase and thus the bolt that holds the bracket for the clutch cable is threaded into the cover and not the crankcase. Horrible. The engine for the older NSR is less abused and all the bolts thread in properly for the clutch and alternator covers. So there may be some issue with the cable adjustment. Also the clutch spring bolts had been overtightened to the point where the bolts were stretched and in danger of snapping and I had to put new bolts in. I tried to torque it down to the recommendations in the shop manual but could not get the torque setting right, so I set it same as the older NSR (the clutch cover was swapped with the older NSR because again the same muppet had snapped off the aluminium that holds the tachometer gear in place; god knows how he managed this). When I am back I will take the clutch apart and inspect it for wear, etc. I was looking for an old NSR engine to get a new clutch cover; will continue with this when I return. Removing the clutch requires a special Honda socket, that I don't have (I can get it online in the UK for 15 quid though), hence why I have not taken it apart. My TZR also needs a new piston/cylinder skim as the plug gets flooded with oil, but thats another story, and another job to do...

Yeah that clutch tool looks like a socket but with channels cut into the side. Can't you just get the bad holes tapped with new threads?

[MaiChai]

Normal trick is to tap out stripped 6mm bolts with 1/4; however this is not possible and there isn't much aluminium to tap into. The reason I think the clutch is going is because it makes a ringing round; like metal rubbing on metal. The tool you need is quite easy to get. They have it here: http://www.wemoto.com/pictures.dyn?k=HL-792299 Again engineers who have worked on the bike have not had this tool and the clutch/alternator nuts have been undone using a hammer and screwdriver (yuk). No worries I will get it sorted. My rule of thumb is that if you spend 10k on a Thai bike, have 5K available to fix it up. Even at 15k its still a cheap bike Think I have spent much less than that as I do all my own work and only need to pay for parts. Interesting thing is that while Honda dealers will sell you parts (including cheaper copy parts), they seem to have this silly rule that they can't sell you specialist tools needed for maintaining the bikes. Honda dealer in Sapan Kwai would not sell me this tool!!!

For anyone out there contemplating buying a second hand bike, especially anything older than a couple of years, you will need to have some budget to fix it up. Simple reason is Thais don't generally maintain their bikes and would ride bikes that most of us would consider dangerous. Safety last?

[Powerband]

Metal rubbing on metal? Maybe there's a clutch plate missing and two pressure plates are rubbing together?

Could you get the case welded and the hole filled and retapped?

[LivinLOS]

Theres one for sale on craiglist.. streetfightered but claims running smooth.

In case anyones after one.

[Powerband]

Just picked up an NSR 150 and this thing has put a big smile on my face, gas mileage is amazingly not so bad, and the power, the power is great weaving in and out through traffic with a feather of the clutch to smack the powerband into the zone. This thing is a blast to ride !

Seems like I'm alway getting into races at the stoplights now, an added bonus.

[submaniac]

Congrats powerband! I love the NSR and the two strokes. Once you ride them, you can't go on a CBR150.

[Powerband]

Modifications are next gonna look for a racing exhaust, bigger carb, coils, ECU.

Edited October 5, 2009 by Powerband

[Gippy]

Congrats Powerband! Did you get the standard NSR or the SP version?

[Skyline]

Congrats on the NSR!..You wont be disappointed,they are great fun.

I miss mine

[Powerband]

Flying off from the stoplights leaving the pack behind is a blast, especially when a big bike pulls up and eyeballs me - and never knew what hit him. lol

I just got a regular NSR 150, I'm going to ride this one until I learn how to identify original specs for a Pro-Arm. Something tells me there's alot of built up Pro-arms that are actually regular NSR's but with a single sided swingarm and paint job.

I just lowered this one by one inch up front and now the handling is like a surgeons scalpel. Just point and shoot.

[Powerband]

This bike is bad ass, amazing how steady it is at 150kph. My friend wanted to swap his CBR 150 for a little while on a ride to Pattaya, and I felt like I was getting beat up by the wind at 130-140 ish kph.

On the NSR I hardly felt any turbulance at all and the handlebars on the CBR are so narrow it feels weird. But maybe I'm just use to the NSR?

Anyone else feel the air turbulance on the CBR 150? This NSR just cuts right through the wind.

[submaniac]

Anyone else feel the air turbulance on the CBR 150? This NSR just cuts right through the wind.

dunno. I always thought the CBR150 was an ugly and slow bike and the NSR was just way way better. After riding the CBR betcha glad you ignored the CBR guys.

[robblok]

So what you guys saying is that a CBR is for pussies ?, and an NSR is the best ?

[submaniac]

So what you guys saying is that a CBR is for pussies ?, and an NSR is the best ?

Nope. Actually said that 1. CBR150 is ugly 2. CBR150 is slow 3. NSR is better.

Said nothing about the CBR150 being for pussies. That comment I will save for the Yamaha Fino.

[BigBikeBKK]

So what you guys saying is that a CBR is for pussies ?, and an NSR is the best ?

Would it be unkind to say they are both for pussies, but the NSR is high class pussy and the CBR is sewer rat?

ps. I've never ridden either one so I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about!

Edited October 19, 2009 by BigBikeBKK

[Powerband]

Anyone else feel the air turbulance on the CBR 150? This NSR just cuts right through the wind.

dunno. I always thought the CBR150 was an ugly and slow bike and the NSR was just way way better. After riding the CBR betcha glad you ignored the CBR guys.

yes sir, I'm loving this NSR...I blew past some big bike today, with a perfect gear drop...I know it's cheating, but it was still fun watching him trying to keep up. (in the rear view mirrors of course)

That reminds me, how do people see out of the CBR mirrors, all I can see are my elbows.

[Gippy]

So what you guys saying is that a CBR is for pussies ?, and an NSR is the best ?

Nope. Actually said that 1. CBR150 is ugly 2. CBR150 is slow 3. NSR is better.

Said nothing about the CBR150 being for pussies. That comment I will save for the Yamaha Fino.

I have a NSR and a Fino, what does that make me?

[Powerband]

Fast but not so Furious?

[visions]

If anyone interested.....I have 3 NSR150R for sale. year 1999, 2000,. 2001 14000B to 22000B All 3 are very clean and tidy bikes. Pics can be available if wanted.

[Powerband]

What are you doing with 3 bikes?, you buying them and making a profit? Where are you located?

Edited October 19, 2009 by Powerband

[visions]

What are you doing with 3 bikes?, you buying them and making a profit? Where are you located?

Actually they are not mine. A thai friend has a bike shop but speaks no english. I just thought may be worth mentioning if anyone was looking for one. Area Maptiput/Rayong. All have registration, full papers/Green book etc.