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The point that Eek and I are making is that the teachers were being paid to act as chaperones and one of the reasonable expectations of the parents is that their kids would be watched at least as carefully as they'd watch them. The teachers shouldn't have been drinking beer in front of the students -- how could they do their job as chaperones if they'd had too many beers?

We're not debating whether viewing porn or drinking alcohol will affect their development and whether it's something that "everyone" does. It's that the teachers didn't live up to the reasonable expectations of the kids parents when they paid for them to go on their cultural trip.

Yes, my mother was chaperoning 17 and 18 year olds. That's why she'd come home utterly exhausted!

We've gotten to know some 17 and 18 year old kids from North America who are here for a year on an Rotary exchange student program. Obviously, these kids can't be watched 24 hr/day, but they go thru an extensive orientation session where it's drilled in their heads that they will be sent home pronto if they engage in any of the forbidden "four Ds" -- drinking, drugs, driving and dating. Yes, driving is legal for 17 and 18 year olds here, but Rotary doesn't want their exchange students doing it. And dating is legal, too, but they don't want the kids forming exclusive relationships with a boyfriend/girlfriend during their exchange year. Mixed-sex social outings and parties are fine just so none of the "4Ds" are present. These kids all know of peers who violated the rules and were sent home, so the ones we've met have stayed true to the "4D" prohibition despite all the temptations of Thailand.

1. You make the same mistake over and over again; you are taking the content of an obscure tabloid for granted. Meaning that you take it for granted that the teachers and some students were sitting on a table "littered" with beer bottles and that they actually consumed those empty bottles....

THAT's what the journalist wrote; was he/ she there ?

Were those beer bottles (if any) from the group or old bottles from visitors who left already and the table was uncleaned ?

You see NancyL, you can't write something based on that content besides the fact the article is very biased and one-sided.

2. You're talking about 17/18 year old US students but I advise you to stay a little more close to home and go and visit some Mediterranean countries in the summer and watch the thousands of drunk youngsters, from age 15 and up, including from the UK, going nuts every single night. No chaperones there and if they cause trouble the local police know what to do; throw them in jail for 1 or 2 nights.

3. "Mixed-sex social outings and parties are fine just so none of the "4Ds" are present (NO drinking, drugs, driving and dating). " :D I wonder in what century you live.

You would be very surprised if you ask those same youngsters if they EVER consumed alcohol, sex or drugs... :)

LaoPo

and what about the ones that do not/never have? FYI they are in the majority... or don't they count? :D

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and what about the ones that do not/never have? FYI they are in the majority... or don't they count? :)

How do you know there's a majority that never have* ? :D Can you prove so with statements, articles or official statistics if you claim so ?

There's a big problem with young people, drinking....

"Under-age British teenagers 'get drunk more than those in any other developed country' ":

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthne...ed-country.html

"British teenagers are leading the way for under-age binge drinking" From the AA in Britain:

http://www.aa-uk.org.uk/alcoholics-anonymo...ng-way-for.html

And, since the teenagers in Bangkok were from a rather exclusive and thus expensive school....:

"Teens With Too Much Money More Likely to Drink Heavily"

http://www.teen-help-directory.com/teens-w...nk-heavily.html

* "Researchers at Liverpool John Moores University looked at 10,200 teens ages 15 to 16 years. Over 90% reported drinking within the past six months, 38% were binge drinkers, and 25% drank alcohol more than twice a week."

LaoPo :D

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I agree with the fact that many teenagers drink themselves silly often, in New Zealand it's a huge issue... BUT... a school trip is a a school trip and teachers need to do their homework.... there is no way those kids should ever have ended up in such a seedy place....

...for some of them this will stick in their minds for years.... oh ha ha - I can hear some of you saying stuff like, "lucky people" and things like that... but for some kids this could be extremely traumatic....

...think about the things that affected you a lot when you were that age, words that someone else said that have never quite left you, things others did to you that were just plain mean that have left bits of you still hurting now that you're old.... sure some of them would have thought it was awesome, but even if only one kid damaged by this then it sucks majorly!!!!!

...Shame on those teachers if they had anything to do with it... oh and I'd be totally p***ed off it one of my kids had been taken there...

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