asfscott Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 i totally agree on strict laws for drunk driving. maybe now i won't drink and drive anymore.... i just won't drive Just don't drive!! That is the ticket!! FINALLY!!!! Are the Thais getting some common sense!!!!???? Blaming the PERSON and not the booze?? I say NAIL anyone with massive fines and jail time who is caught driving drunk here!! More power to this!! Not only that, but crucify ANYONE who causes death or injury when they are responsible when driving drunk like they do in other countries now. At least 20 year jail terms and they have to pay and support the surviving members of the family who's family member they killed. There is NO EXCUSE for this in Thailand as we have such affordable transportation and taxis on every street ready to take us home if we have had a few too many. Do not blame the masses for this!! Does not anyone find the completely pathetic law about selling alcohol between 11am and 2pm, then from 5pm on a fringing JOKE!!!?? This is just monkey logic!! The mom and pop stores LOVE this law on every little sub soi!! How about: Don't sell to alcohol to minors (massive fines for stores caught selling to minors) Deny selling alcohol to drunken idiots Don't deny and cause such inconveniences for the responsible masses!!! Good to see they are actually blaming the PERSON who decides to make the wrong choices. The logic and thinking of restricting access to alcohol for everyone during the time of day because some morons or under age Thais will get drunk at that time during the day is completely STUPID!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmurf Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Its started in Chiang Rai too.Last night I got stopeed at 9.45pm near Den Ha. Nice policeman said where had I been.To eat I said and he wished me goodnight.I asked why they were stopping nearly everyone and he replied ALCOHOL!!!! Yes I had had a couple with my meal. Time to move house close to the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjarnMartin Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Naturally I'm all for this.Nor can I hide my interest in liquor becoming 3X cheaper I'm all for it providing it applies to Thai drivers... ...but it probably won't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 As if not having a license would ever stop anyone from driving here. How many HAVE a license or how many did buy one... Or even better, how many with a license can drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Enforce the helmet law. A lot of head injuries are more than likely in those figures. See so many people just coming off their bikes. Not just enforce it, educate Thais and farangs that its NOT for the police or so, its for you HEAD. Assuming you buy a decent one... Brings me to a complaint: I have a Honda Helmet and after a year the plastic in front is broken but all I am told is they cannot get them... They should make helmets illegal if those plastic things cannot be separately bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Currently booze is cheap for the BiB - they set up roadblocks and fine drivers a couple of times each month, and the pocket money pays for the booze. Well, I heard they even collect free beer from the karaokes instead of the tax as most of those karaokes Have Leo beer but no money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Currently booze is cheap for the BiB - they set up roadblocks and fine drivers a couple of times each month, and the pocket money pays for the booze. Well, I heard they even collect free beer from the karaokes instead of the tax as most of those karaokes Have Leo beer but no money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude007 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 So have they provided the BIB with breathalysers?Or we still down to one unit at Din Daeng on a Saturday night. I'm all for it. Come on, is it April 1st. Booze going down in price. It will never happen. I can confirm they have these very sophisticated breathalyzers and more than you like! Frequent controls are in Tonglor, just in front of the police station and on the Rama IX road under the tollway viaduct at the entry of Royal City Avenue. They stop all drivers except taxis... I also heard about the Rachadapisek road being a frequent target for these tests... Me too, I had a friend in jail for one night with a trial the next morning and 15,000 THB fine. But drunk he was... I support this altough I feel one day to be a victim of what I support myself. From two beers you're already BINGO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Laws are no good without proper enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpig Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Currently booze is cheap for the BiB - they set up roadblocks and fine drivers a couple of times each month, and the pocket money pays for the booze. Well, I heard they even collect free beer from the karaokes instead of the tax as most of those karaokes Have Leo beer but no money.... Heard they might get a free jump as well, lucky boys. Edited December 5, 2009 by plasticpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyswede Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Naturally I'm all for this.Nor can I hide my interest in liquor becoming 3X cheaper Have to agree on this one .. as im with Thai wife nowadays my highest expence isnt bargirls anymore while in Los , it´s the booze! 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) It seems to have escaped some posters that whatever the cost of a DD "accident" a misnomer if ever there was one; it is of course no such thing - there IS a cost - not just medical/insurance - there is the social cost - loss of bread-earner - incapacity due to injury or alcoholism, the effects both financial, physical and psychological on dependents even victims employees will suffer. With even the smallest amount of alcohol in your blood your reactions and abilities to judge (loss of inhibition etc) are altered negatively so ridding people (including, apparently some posters on this thread) of the idea your can drive safely with alcohol is a great goal, but this legislation will do absolutely nothing in that direction Edited December 5, 2009 by Sherlocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodkit Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I heard that it is not just a fine for foreigners. If you are a Farang working here, you will apparently lose your Work Permit as well and by implication your job as well - serious ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachiebkk Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi..I am all for this one, if they ever manage to pull it off. However the cops will be way too busy harassing motorbikes for entirely made-up "offenses" so they won't have the time to check anyone for alcohol levels. And even if they manage to catch a drunkard by chance (probably because he was on a motorbike) it will be the usual 200 Baht straight into the cop's pocket and he'll be on his merry way again. regards Thanh Ha ha ha, with a salute and a badly worded 'Have a nice day sir' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachiebkk Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 So if I get pinched i'll only be looking at a fine of between 5k and 20k and a loss of licence, awesome........ In reality though, I bet if i get caught it will cost me significantly more. Why would you be so stupid to Drink and Drive anyway? Too drunk to walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I am all for this one, if they ever manage to pull it off. However the cops will be way too busy harassing motorbikes for entirely made-up "offenses" so they won't have the time to check anyone for alcohol levels. And even if they manage to catch a drunkard by chance (probably because he was on a motorbike) it will be the usual 200 Baht straight into the cop's pocket and he'll be on his merry way again. regards looks like this character might spend a night or to in a cell this Xmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanh-BKK Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Who, me? Sorry to disappoint you... the last time i drank something that contained alcohol (apart from cough syrup) was about five or six years ago, and the last time i was actually drunk was a few days before i got my motorbike driving license. That happened when i was 20 years old.... i'm 34 now. So i am unlikely to ever end up in a cell due to drunk driving And i don't do other drugs either, i don't even smoke Kind regards..... Thanh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jensonmcm Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Who, me?Sorry to disappoint you... the last time i drank something that contained alcohol (apart from cough syrup) was about five or six years ago, and the last time i was actually drunk was a few days before i got my motorbike driving license. That happened when i was 20 years old.... i'm 34 now. So i am unlikely to ever end up in a cell due to drunk driving And i don't do other drugs either, i don't even smoke Kind regards..... Thanh Please don't tell me you are a vegetarian virgin as well. If so, you better kill yourself now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanh-BKK Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Nah. Neither vegetarian nor virgin But i can have fun without killing myself in the process... and why waste money on something that gives me headache the next morning? Party on with Pepsi Best regards..... Thanh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Who, me?Sorry to disappoint you... the last time i drank something that contained alcohol (apart from cough syrup) was about five or six years ago, and the last time i was actually drunk was a few days before i got my motorbike driving license. That happened when i was 20 years old.... i'm 34 now. So i am unlikely to ever end up in a cell due to drunk driving And i don't do other drugs either, i don't even smoke Kind regards..... Thanh Please don't tell me you are a vegetarian virgin as well. If so, you better kill yourself now. this epitomizes the childish attitude to alcohol that is so prevalent amongst expats (and of course drunk drivers!) - to suggest that drinking or drug taking is in any way "manly" or indicative of sexual prowess is really got to be one of the most stupid things I've seen for several week on Thai visa. ....and using the terms vegetarian and virgin as an insult???? - how very very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Who, me?Sorry to disappoint you... the last time i drank something that contained alcohol (apart from cough syrup) was about five or six years ago, and the last time i was actually drunk was a few days before i got my motorbike driving license. That happened when i was 20 years old.... i'm 34 now. So i am unlikely to ever end up in a cell due to drunk driving And i don't do other drugs either, i don't even smoke Kind regards..... Thanh Please don't tell me you are a vegetarian virgin as well. If so, you better kill yourself now. this epitomizes the childish attitude to alcohol that is so prevalent amongst expats (and of course drunk drivers!) - to suggest that drinking or drug taking is in any way "manly" or indicative of sexual prowess is really got to be one of the most stupid things I've seen for several week on Thai visa. ....and using the terms vegetarian and virgin as an insult???? - how very very sad. Dear Sherlocke Did you miss the smiley at the end of jenson's obviously lighthearted comment. Dr Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 ^It should read more like Doctor Doolittle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) Quite frankly I don't think that views like that are funny and that he chooses to think they are is more of an indication of the posters own childishness - we are talking about drink drive here and flippant comments like that aimed at belittling the other poster's opinion, betray an underlying attitude towards the issues surrounding alcohol and its mis-use Edited December 10, 2009 by Sherlocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Quite frankly I don't think that views like that are funny and that he chooses to think they are is more of an indication of the posters own childishness - we are talking about drink drive here and flippant comments like that aimed at belittling the other poster's opinion, betray an underlying attitude towards the issues surrounding alcohol and its mis-use Did you notice Thanh's response - he clearly didn't feel belittled, so why are you doing so, vicariously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) THere is nothing vicarious about it at all - Whether or not he voiced an opinion - and he clearly felt the need to justify himself - is irrelevant - I'm not defending him, I'm pointing out that there is an underlying attitude towarsds alcohol here that is unhealthy - why on erarth do you feel the need to take up this point as if I've made some great insult to drinkers? Edited December 10, 2009 by Sherlocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 THere is nothing vicarious about it at all - Whether or not he voiced an opinion - and he clearly felt the need to justify himself - is irrelevant - I'm not defending him, I'm pointing out that there is an underlying attitude towarsds alcohol here that is unhealthy - why on erarth do you feel the need to take up this point as if I've made some great insult to drinkers? I suspect you will not give up easily, so I surrender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jensonmcm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Who, me?Sorry to disappoint you... the last time i drank something that contained alcohol (apart from cough syrup) was about five or six years ago, and the last time i was actually drunk was a few days before i got my motorbike driving license. That happened when i was 20 years old.... i'm 34 now. So i am unlikely to ever end up in a cell due to drunk driving And i don't do other drugs either, i don't even smoke Kind regards..... Thanh Please don't tell me you are a vegetarian virgin as well. If so, you better kill yourself now. this epitomizes the childish attitude to alcohol that is so prevalent amongst expats (and of course drunk drivers!) - to suggest that drinking or drug taking is in any way "manly" or indicative of sexual prowess is really got to be one of the most stupid things I've seen for several week on Thai visa. ....and using the terms vegetarian and virgin as an insult???? - how very very sad. Ha Ha !, and that "epitomizes" the total lack of a sense of humour and the incapacity to understand the concept of a "joke" of some of the crusty old farts on this forum. Ironically though, you gave me a laugh. Maybe there's hope for you yet. - how funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 A response that only underlines my point. Now I suppose now you'll go and have "just one for the road"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jensonmcm Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 ....and using the terms vegetarian and virgin as an insult???? - how very very sad. What's even more funnier are people who go "tut tut tut" from their lofty pedestals using the the term "sad" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) You think? looks like I touched a nerve with some "alco" posters and I reckon you're just trying to bluster your way out of public embarrassment. Edited December 10, 2009 by Sherlocke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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