A country that cannot tolerate dissident=country that can't progress. If the current govt. is honest and really supported by the citizens, why scare of the return of the dissident? It seems that the current govt. has no confidence of ruling the country, therefore resort to the cowardice act of killing

Jutaporn is he just a pawn for the king pawn? He should remember that the prawn family eat their own, and if his patry needs $ he and his crooks (cooks) should vist a pawnshop. Don't give that old pawn the people's money it will only start to breed more little empty shells.

Deep - really deep...

Genius!!

Agreed!

This is consistent with a commentary in the Post dating back to November 22, 2009. it is a commentary from Voranai Vanijaka. I am not at at all skeptical about these claims. This happens in societies were the army and other people in uniform can rape the constitution at will and with impunity.

Everybody who believes that they want Thaksin back to spend jail time are either naif or plain stupid. There would be bloodshed on the streets of Bangkok on an unprecedented scale, not that the army cares, but it cares about their international standing and the fact that they might face prosecution in the International court.

Therefore it is all a big game, if Suthep claims that he want Thaksin back first before reconciliation ca happen he means in fact that he does not give a rats ass about reconciliation and that it will never happen as long as he sits unelected with his bellboy Abhisit on the prime ministers chair.

Hah, by chance a fan of fark.com?

Is this Thai

Politics and the democratic way of life in Thailand?

If you do not like the opposition then simply kill them....

And in the end the FM does not even deny the claim but is more concerned about the leak, what proves that the MOU's are genuine.

3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins.

What on earth are you talking about?

First of all, the nation was NOT under martial law in any general sense at the time of the election. And even if they would have declared it, which they did not, people would still be allowed to vote!

Who feeds you this nonsense?

And in the end the FM does not even deny the claim but is more concerned about the leak, what proves that the MOU's are genuine.

The MOU's are most likely legit, they are just not talking about any assassination.

The documents was linked here before but I think due to their status that thread is pending moderation now.

Jutaporn is he just a pawn for the king pawn? He should remember that the prawn family eat their own, and if his patry needs $ he and his crooks (cooks) should vist a pawnshop. Don't give that old pawn the people's money it will only start to breed more little empty shells.

Deep - really deep...

Deep ?Prawns?

Should be fried...

Pawn the mollusc,

Mushy peas on the side.

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The Bard of LOS, , I'm not, it's true

same beer, same sun and same old F*rts,

I'm blessed and hope that you are too.

Boo Hoo Brewsta

I am waiting for the classic Thai logic evident in the forthcoming defense:

"It could not be me who tried to kill him. If it were me he would be dead by now. So it could not have been me"

Jutaporn is he just a pawn for the king pawn? He should remember that the prawn family eat their own, and if his patry needs $ he and his crooks (cooks) should vist a pawnshop. Don't give that old pawn the people's money it will only start to breed more little empty shells.

You definately can'

t say that or mention that title here. Big breech of the rules

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Well said. I perfectly agree! The opposition is continously sitting on the fence and doing nothing other than blaming the government and making troubles. They want to change back to the old constitution, forgetting that the one in use was voted for by a majority of the people. This guy is so blatantly stupid.

Mitt....you might want to do a little research on this before you make comments.

1) The military tore up the 1997 "People's Constitution" and wrote a new one, which completely absolved them from their criminal acts.

2) They gave the people of Thailand 2 choices: 1) Vote for this one; 2) remain under martial law.

3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins.

So, this constitution, aside from being illegal to begin with, was NOT voted on by the "majority", but by a minority, and even then it almost didn't make it.

Just1Voice, I suggest you follow your own advice and do some research before posing misleading statement presented as facts. There was no suspension of the right to vote in areas under martial law. In fact 57% of the eligible electorate of 46.3 million turned out for the ballot which would have been difficult is 60% of the country was not allowed to vote. The constitution was approved by 14.7 million voters and disapproved by 10.7 million, i.e. the margin was 11.7% of votes cast. Some may have been disappointed in the margin but your superlative language might lead other ignorant people to believe that it was perhaps less than 1%. The referendum was a simple yes or no vote. There was no explicit alternative presented, such as remaining under martial law as you suggest.

There is enough nonsense in TV posted by "shoot from the hip" posters with little or no knowledge of Thailand. Please don't add to the clutter.

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Is that a diss to songteaw drivers? That's a bit harsh on the songteaw drivers as they'll have to listen to his political ramblings and conspiracy theories all day when all they want to talk about is football, muay Thai, what they had for dinner last night and the dream of oneday earning enough to trade in the songteaw for a Vigo!

I must say though "get rid of" does sound a bit like "terminate!" even though it doesn't rhyme. I wonder if "get rid of" used exclaimation marks in the actual document as that would definately send alarm bell ringing. I'd be a bit worried if there was a leaked document from MI6 or the CIA with my name on it followed by "get rid of!" so I can see his point. Can't uderstand why the Thai government hasn't flatly denied it as a fake like western governments would do. Take him to court for leaking a fake document rather than admiting to have written it which they seem to have done. Isn't lieing what governments do best?

What took them so long? He should have been offed years ago.

Exactly. Don't they read Machiavell?. "Commit all cruelty at the beginning".

Takki Shinegra, his ilk and specially this political pyromaniac, the "grey eminence", belong at least beyond closed doors, better bricked in - so that peace and normality can return and settle again in this once so peaceful country!

And in the end the FM does not even deny the claim but is more concerned about the leak, what proves that the MOU's are genuine.

I think you're wrong there. He's just taken legal action against Jatuporn - for libel.

1Get rid of the trash

2Get rid of the corruption

3Get rid of hate

4Get rid of those awful Frakenstine shoes

5Get rid of (someones name)

Ok there is 5 Get Rid Of's and none of them mean the same thing

Only one means to kill or dispose of with prejudicial murder; number 5

well maybe number 4 too.

Actually none of these means to kill. Judicially speaking.

Being a guest of this country, I absolutely refuse to partake in any politics, red, blue or yellow.

But this is the second time I am posting a humble request: Please, show the facts, PRO and CON Thaksin. No emotions, just the facts. I am a poor bugger of a farang, who has been in Thailand for only 3+ years. Just the facts. Please!

Someone should 'take out' Jatuporn. No really, in Thaksin's day a guy like this would have had multiple multi-million baht law suits slapped on him for libel, and would have pipped down by now. Yeah, let the whole thing go to court, when he's failed to convince us all that 'get rid of' (probably the word 'ting' in Thai) does not mean kill someone, he should be fined for contempt of court and parliament, perhaps stripped of his MP status, better still banished to Dubai, and have his tongue cut out for good measure.

This <deleted> is everything Thailand doesn't want to be in the future, he's the archetypical dodgy, mouthy, unintelligent, deceptive politician we're trying to discourage. He serves to be a songteaw driver, no more.

Hey, I know some good Songteaw drivers, she takes my son to & fro to school every day, but I wouldn't trust that guy

I love the BUPA ads in the context with the goverment plan to kill Thaksin

Jatuporn's audience is not readers of TV, The Nation or the Bangkok Post and he is under heavy pressure from the boss and in competition with other red shirt leaders to raise the political temperature, so that can cash cheques written on the boss's frozen assets. The boss likes the idea of alleged assassination conspiracies against him because it is a great way to drum up sympathy from the masses and he is naturally paranoid anyway. The allegations don't need to be presented in a credible way because newspapers and the analysis they provide have a very low penetration with his target audience, which gets its information largely from TV soundbites.

For all the alleged assassination plots against Thaksin that have failed to get off the ground, the red shirts have came a lot closer to "getting rid of" Abhisit in April and some one got also got very close to doing Sondhi. Incidentally what has happened to the investigation into the Sondhi assassination attempt that was last heard of as being within days of arresting the masterminds?

Kasit Files Criminal Charges Against Jatuporn

UPDATE : 24 December 2009

Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya has pressed criminal charges against DAAD leader Jatuporn Phrompan for revealing confidential ministry documents. Libel charges also being launched.

http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1022775

The Nazis talked about the "final solution". I guess that could not possibly mean that someone would be harmed.

Thaksin should have been tackled a long time ago. Either in prison or a more "permanent" solution.

To those crying about "democracy" etc above look at the history of your own countries. People are removed forcefully, even by democratic governments.

Aren't you all tired to answer , comment ,and argue to the guy who spend all his day to copy and paste what is written in Nation's website?

Thaksin has cried wolf so many times he should be ho(a)rse by now.

I remember the malfunctioning exploding compressor on a plane that Thaksin claimed was a bomb by disgruntled drug barons, his boasts how proud he would be to be buried in a coffin wrapped with the Thai flag. The 'car bomb' near Sang Hee bridge.

Compare him to Apisit's calm demeanour, for instance, the rumour is the same team who hatched an assassination bid against a Privy councillor a few months ago were contracted to 'eliminate' Apisit in Chiang Mai recently.

But Apisit didn't jump up and down screaming for sympathy.

3) At the time of the vote, SIXTY PERCENT (60%) of the country WAS under martial law and not allowed to vote, which left only FORTY PERCENT (40%) of voters eligible, and even then it was passed by the BAREST of margins.

What on earth are you talking about?

First of all, the nation was NOT under martial law in any general sense at the time of the election. And even if they would have declared it, which they did not, people would still be allowed to vote!

Who feeds you this nonsense?

Does it really matter? Everything in the process of this constitution was full of irregularities, from the selection of the drafting committee to the referendum itself.

Everybody were allowed to vote, but criticizing the draft was made a criminal act, so no public debate was possible. If people voted no, the junta would just pass any constitution of their liking instead.

This referendum was no more democratic than the elections held in the Soviet Union.

GOOGLE: 'Thaksin will stop protests if govt spares him from jail'

(plus return his 76 billion and revert back to the easily manipulated '97 charter;)

Basically it aint over until a square-faced Frank gets to sing "Myyyyy Wayyyyy"..... (and then it begins again)

zzzZzzzzzz....

Now, everyone understands what is Jatuporn doing for living.....as a Joker.....

Bangkok should be a separate state or country? A lot of People in the north of the country don't have these sentiments.

When Bangkok grows up they may have a chance....until then the deck chairs will be arranged for the next sinking of the leader. Who will be at fault then?

This is just my observation of what has happened.

Look what has happened after GW had a go.......where are they now.