Schoolgirl Pregnancies At An All-time High

[jb5music]

Do the girls have no idea of contraception?

And who are the inseminators? Their fellow students?

But Mom, he promised me... hahaha

Well, he tried but didn't make it there in time.

[slapout]

This tirade is coming for the Social Development bla bla Ministry. Sounds like the social development of experiment and learn is well instilled in the system. Would it not be more prudent to have the Health Ministry with its medical background people working on this along with various social diseases, etc? I remember reading one article that proposed sex education could be taught at temples via monks thru out Thailand.

A Social worker once told me in conversation that the best success they had was the peers of students who had made mistakes, recognized same, and passed on the experiences and a solution which they wished they had taken in a less than formal atmosphere. Thailand should not have any problems finding offenders both morally and legally, finding any with remorse/responsible feeling for actions may take some work, but busy minds/hands keep teenagers out of trouble. Sometimes

[Bakeman]

And it's the fault of boys allowed into girls dormitories and teenagers wearing sexy clothing, it's got nothing to do with the fact the sex education in schools here is still a taboo subject (and probably in the home as well).

How often do you meet a young girl working in a bar or massage shop because she now has an unplanned bambino to support.

COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!!

[spirit47]

Starting a few years ago in America that lots of "kids" drink alcohol until break down. I see them in Germany making sex everywhere. When drunken enough, there is no place for responsibillity.

Maybe a very bad start for a baby and for the girls a sad story follow.

[BusyBee123]

This is certainly not a new fad. It's been going on for yonks. The only difference is that in the western world, most people have more sense than to want an immediate family.

This is not only about safe sex, it's about common sense too.

What does Thai Culture say/teach about this?

That you shouldn't kill your kid before its been born; bad karma an all that. Like the Catholics except no problem with contraceptives. Think more education at the bigginning of the teenage years is needed. At least in this country many will have a strong familly support network and might be able to finnish thier studies.

BAD KARMA

Many kids are killed at birth,many many thais are killed/murdered,chopped up etc etc and you say thais will not kill due to bad karma heheheheheh,now thats funny.You know so little about Thailand

nothing like a stupid farang telling other farangs how it is in thailand

[ScubaBuddha]

Schoolgirl pregnancies at an all time high.

Err...my bad. Sorry 'bout that.

[manarak]

elkangorito, you should take your avatar to heart...

The only difference is that in the western world, most people have more sense than to want an immediate family.

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The conception rate for girls aged 15-17 in UK is about 40 to 45 per 1000.

There are about 375.000 girls for each of these age classes, so 3x 375.000 = 1125000 of which about 50000 are/were pregnant, and that's without the pregnancies of younger girls.

sources:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=6

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/office_of_the...teenconcept.asp

how lucky that the western world is so superior!

oh, and may I add (for the people not knowing) that the LOS has approx. 10% more population than UK (67 mill. vs. 61).

I believe nothing in Thailand.

That's certainly the right approach, People should heed that advice when reading your posts.

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[cook]

i've talked to 3 or 4 university educated ladies here about pregnancy. none of them knows basic stuff like the most likely time of their menstrual cycle they can get pregnant. so i have concluded (based on that small sample) that many other schoolgirls and university girls aren't taught sex education at home or at school.

i would guess that many boys don't get sex education either.

is it taboo because thailand is buddhist?

why doesn't the leader of the govt., or someone with a lot more influence with thai people, suggest that parents and educators teach it to the kids?

[harrry]

This number also includes those at university and that means the age range can be up to about 25. Include those in the statistics and you will see how low the pregnancy rate is. Of course it can and should be lower but to me the saddest thing is it ends all hopes of their future as they are effectively barred from education once pregnant.

[canuckamuck]

BAD KARMA

Many kids are killed at birth,many many thais are killed/murdered,chopped up etc etc and you say thais will not kill due to bad karma heheheheheh,now thats funny.You know so little about Thailand

nothing like a stupid farang telling other farangs how it is in thailand

Actually I have heard of this, but more commonly the method of killing an unwanted child is to leave it in the forest. That way the bad karma is reduced because you didn't actually kill it.

[phetpeter]

When they look like this..............

Can I help Please!!! Oh! you don't mean give unwanted preggies then?

[Nelorie]

And it's the fault of boys allowed into girls dormitories and teenagers wearing sexy clothing, it's got nothing to do with the fact the sex education in schools here is still a taboo subject (and probably in the home as well).

How often do you meet a young girl working in a bar or massage shop because she now has an unplanned bambino to support.

TOTALY WRONG

maybe they work in the bar because father decides he doesnt want responsibility and the government dont care,so yai has to take care of the baby whilst the mother has to work.

Thai mans fault on this one,and if father had teken care then no bar girls

Sigie and virtualtraveller are saying the same thing. There are two standards in thailand. One for thai men and one for thai women. thai men treat thai women like shit. They get pregnant, then married thai says so what, or thai boyfriend does a runner, same thing. Girl ends up in bar, etc, looking for a better option, which is us by western poor farangs, but still better than working in a paddy field.

thai tv has all the shows with a great life, but not many can get that life. so the bars are great, especially if a girl is a high earner. But at what price ultimately.

[bangon04]

"The number of pregnant schoolgirls and university students sharply rose to about 10,000 last year.

In the past, the number had never risen beyond 5,000 in a year."

Numbers don't double in a year.

Do the mothers drop out of school forever?

I was told that the schools insist on it (dropping out, that is).

[bangon04]

And it's the fault of boys allowed into girls dormitories and teenagers wearing sexy clothing, it's got nothing to do with the fact the sex education in schools here is still a taboo subject (and probably in the home as well).

How often do you meet a young girl working in a bar or massage shop because she now has an unplanned bambino to support.

TOTALY WRONG

maybe they work in the bar because father decides he doesnt want responsibility and the government dont care,so yai has to take care of the baby whilst the mother has to work.

Thai mans fault on this one,and if father had teken care then no bar girls

Not just the Thai fathers fault but also the culture and Budhism which teaches people not to worry about the future who is going to "glove up" when they dont have to worry about any consequences ?

I guess many of you have heard the stories about the tradition of Abduction in Isaan (and probably elsewhere in Thailand) where a man with financial means abducts a girl he fancies as a opening to marriage negotiation. If the girl is under age the police may be called, and the way to avoid prosecution is to pay SinSot to the parents.

Last month a girl of 14 I happen to know was abducted by a 20 year old "boyfriend", and the negotiations have just been concluded. So this "tradition" is still alive and well in rural communities, and apparently seen as normal social interaction - a form of arranged marriage. So with so little respect for the girl, it is any wonder that it is so easy to meet abandoned 20 year old mothers with 2 kids?

[bangon04]

Sigie and virtualtraveller are saying the same thing. There are two standards in thailand. One for thai men and one for thai women. thai men treat thai women like shit. They get pregnant, then married thai says so what, or thai boyfriend does a runner, same thing. Girl ends up in bar, etc, looking for a better option, which is us by western poor farangs, but still better than working in a paddy field.

thai tv has all the shows with a great life, but not many can get that life. so the bars are great, especially if a girl is a high earner. But at what price ultimately.

It would seem that many Thai mothers are content to teach their sons that it is acceptable to treat women like s**t, and they teach their daughters that it is just something they have to expect.....

[JetsetBkk]

I wonder if any of our illustrious members made a contribution to the reported figure.

Mine didn't.

[Dustybin]

Another sad failing of abisits corrupt junta government.

The only statistic they care about is 76 billion.

Shamefull.

[dttk0009]

Clearly the solution is much fiercer media censorship and complete alcohol prohibition. THEN teens will stop having sex.

[moetownblues]

I wonder if any of our illustrious members made a contribution to the reported figure.

Maybe a few, how many of these girls are working in bars?

[ericB]

Any discussion of such delicates requires that there be a reliable reporting system in place. Due to political sensitivities in heavily Catholic nations such as Portugal, Poland etc. the numbers reported may not reflect the actual incidence. In other countries, such preganancies could lead to severe penalties including public stoning so there is no incentive to report the pregnancy. In some countries, contraceptives are made difficult to obtain (e.g. Eire).

Let's not forget that the USA has one of the poorest public education systems in the industrialised world.

Let's not also forget that in the "free" country of the USA, people are paid a pittance for lots of work, which is one of the main reasons I did not move there in the late 80's. In case you're wondering, I was offered a job there but it paid a pittance, thus I refused the job (thank god).

Back on topic, the USA has little to do with teenage pregnancies in Thailand...too many differences.

Thank you for sharing the results of your definitive comparative analysis of educational systems. While some school districts in the USA do have poor quality systems, overall, the quality of public education is no worse than other industrialised countries such as Romania, Portugal, France, Mexico, Columbia, Russia to name a few. Teen pregnancies have jumped in the western world. The social shame and the economic costs associated with teenage pregnancies has been reduced in many countries experiencing this problem. Some of this is also attributable to the limited access to contraceptives and abortion facilities available to these fornicators.

Let's not compare apple and orange, shall we ?

European educational system is quite different of the one used in the USA. For exemple, in France each and every schools will teach the same (replace schools by faculties/universities/IUT or kindergarden or even french schools in foreign countries). The goal being to be able to 'produce' students (poor wording) who have the very same set of knowledges/skills.

For what I know/witness, in USA the cursus in not federal but local. A school located in Salt lake City or a one located in West Virginia or one located in Boulder will not teach the same; some might even teach earth is only 5 000 years old ...

As it's hard to compare, it's harder to decide wich one is best (I do not say french schools are better than US schools, even if I dare to think they were untill a very recent time).

It might be possible to compare German educatinal system with French or Spanish or Italian, because somehow they are similar in cursus (with all having a final examination that take place before to enter in university; having also a cursus still influenced by the old 'humanities' tought 500, 1000 years ago). On the other hand , it is trully a sign of excellency to have a Master or a PhD from the M.I.T and will show more about your qualities than a 'maitrise' obtain in Belfort - Franche Comte univeristy (still specialised in micro mecanic applied to industry).