Daytime Yoga And Other Classes?

[HalfSquat]

I've got some more free time during the weekdays and wouldnt mind giving yoga a try.

Does anyone know of any classes that run during the day in the week in Bangkok?

I'm after the more slow type of yoga that is about holding positions rather than the fast type.

Also if anyone knows of any other sports of fitness type things I could do in the day in Bangkok please post them here.

Thanks

[mauiguy90]

Sorry for the late response. True Fitness has yoga classes thru out the day, as well as a number of other fitness classes. Think you can negotiate prices right now and get a pretty decent deal, from what friends have told me. Don't agree to pay more than $50 a month.

I'm sure that California Fitness and Fitness First also have classes as well although I haven't checked their schedules recently.

[bjoe97]

To be honest I have seen many so called "yoga" expert's at those chain health club place's-and almost none of them make the grade. With the notable exception of one man in thonglor whose name escapes me.Justin if I recall correctly.His studio only has yoga, no weight's or anything else.

The rest ,not all surely, are simply substandard and should not be considered authentic yoga.

Although what they teach is most probably good for you there is a great danger that you will do something to yourself which will cause an injury.

I had a friend who broke two ribs and another who tried the so called "hot" yoga" and got very sick.They were never told that certain condition's make "hot" yoga a very dangerous activity.

There is one excellent teacher here who lives and breaths yoga- I think he only teaches privately and people he takes a liking too. If you would like me to connect you to him please pm me.

Best wishes

[bjoe97]

To elaborate on one PM I received.

Most so called yoga here should never be considered true yoga.

One cannot go to any place that says silly, sales pitch things like " enroll for 30 "hot yoga" classes and receive 10 free, and maybe a free ticket to koh-samui..sign here, and if your one day late you loose..."

Oh dear. How does that honestly sound to you?

Then learn yoga under a neon light from a person who has less than 20 years training for several times per week and honestly truly believe what they are doing is yoga.

What they are doing may be healthy, may be good for you, but the truly only resemblance is has to true yoga is the name.

[mauiguy90]

What they are doing may be healthy, may be good for you, but the truly only resemblance is has to true yoga is the name.

You make it sound like you are a true yogi. Please elaborate your credentials--years of training, years of teaching yoga, professional certifications, awards, etc.

FYI--You should realize this is a public forum and as such, you can be held responsible for what you post.

Edited February 6, 2010 by mauiguy90

[bjoe97]

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What they are doing may be healthy, may be good for you, but the truly only resemblance is has to true yoga is the name.

<br /><br />You make it sound like you are a true yogi. Please elaborate your credentials--years of training, years of teaching yoga, professional certifications, awards, etc.<br /><br />FYI--You should realize this is a public forum and as such, you can be held responsible for what you post.<br />

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I am glad to see that someone has confirmed all that I just said. Thats the typical reaction from someone who knows the truth.

I wanted and knew that would come.

Thank you. Maybe I should add psychic to my list of non existent talents.

Public forum,held responsible? Contact Micky at the pickled liver, he is looking for stand up comedians.

[mauiguy90]

Just as I suspected: A know it all with no talent and more specifically, no credentials and most likely, has never seen the insides of the very places he is criticizing!

Edited February 7, 2010 by mauiguy90

[bjoe97]

<br />Just as I suspected: A know it all with no talent and more specifically, no credentials and most likely, has never seen the insides of the very places he is criticizing!<br /> <img src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/bah.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="bah.gif" /><br />

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Ahhh.... you just cannot let it go can you.

Do I sense an ego here.

The ego my friend is something which yoga should allow you to transend. I too have yet to fully succeed in that I must confess as I get a sort of perverse pleasure out of things like this.

In fact I know very little. So, you on a sure winner here.

But, to use your kind of thinking, challenge me like that and I may surprise to you.

Was that taught in one of those chain places too?

Would you like to put your suspicions to the test?

If so, lets set up a time and meet.

You seem so sure of what you say. What have you got to lose?

Lets film it and whoever 'wins" ( you can ask me to describe in details the places you claim I have not been to, judge for yourself my ' talent and skills, by the way a true yoga person would not really talk like this, and lets be really fair here, the "loser "must donate 100'000 baht to a program that sends people in jails to teach the inmates yoga. Fair enough?

Who will "judge this" I tell you what . You decide. I cannot get fairer than that can I?

Bring your own expert( another term yoga people avoid, you can tell alot simple by the words that are choosen you know- or did they not teach this at california fitness, or true yoga?)

and lets all ahve a nice open test.

I will ask one friend to sit in on this if you do not mind ,just in case of any little disputes,and let him have a little chat after with you have finished handing over the money.

Yet, we both know in actual fact that all you are doing is face saving.To try and save face is to lose it.

And I am afraid to tell you with each little come back you are digging yourself deeper and lending credence to my claims.All I am saying is what many already know to be true.

If you refuse to meet me after expressing such confidence ask yourself this " who am I'?

You seem certain of what you say, yet we both know you will not pursue this matter.

And you cannot lose

Because after all your finely honed suspicions, no doubt obtained from those neon light, pay for 30 sessions and get 10 free yoga places have given you this perfect third eye.

And just in case, you are wrong, just in case, you will be donating to a good cause. A win-win situation.

Looking forward to meeting ,or rather you finding some exuse not to meet me by whatever reason actually tells me I have progressed very little and such a long way to go.

Something inside me still loves to rub some people faces in the dirt and make them look real fools.

No true yoga student expert, whatever should like that.

Anyways, over to you.

Please tell me the name of someone you know here who can meet us both and who 'worldly recognised' in the authentic yoga community and whose judgment you respect .

Anyway, lets stop all this silly fun and games,lets face facts- you will never meet me, we both know why, in your own way of thinking you already lost and are wrong.

So I am right am I, the chain yoga places really are that bad? Do you not find that sad? I do.

lets do something positive about it instead of this childish ego driven exchange.

[bjoe97]

<br />Sorry for the late response. True Fitness has yoga classes thru out the day, as well as a number of other fitness classes. Think you can negotiate prices right now and get a pretty decent deal, from what friends have told me. Don't agree to pay more than $50 a month. <br />I'm sure that California Fitness and Fitness First also have classes as well although I haven't checked their schedules recently.<br />

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oh my God

what a sad and sorry state

typical, nowadays thats whats it all about... we have really lost our way people

i missed this before .I just love what you say...

listen to your car sales persons pitch

" think you can negotiate prices right now and get pretty decent deal, do not pay more than $50 per month...."

Did I miss something, are we talking yoga here, or am on the classified pages?

This is truly truly sad. This is not yoga. This is business.They do not mix.

And your ego ( like mine) does not need nor benefit from this at all.

I honestly, truly wish you all the best.

Right now- the blind is leading the blind.

[bjoe97]

Here I am again. What a beautiful morning it is. And our little exchange actually kept me awake.

I owe you both an apology and a ' thank you".

I am not trying to be sarcastic nor condescending here.

I have done enough of that.

In fact in many ways I have demonstrated far more what a true yoga is not about than the chain places I have discussed.And you have taught me rather a lot.For which I thank you.

I tried to take advantage of the fact I noticed your a gambling man ( albeit the money would of been for a very good cause and you too, like me seem keen on social issues, but surely, if education,therefor the truth is also an interest of yours, you may be able to see my point)

Lets try and agree rather disagree. I am sure you will agree I have the right to my opinion. What exactly have I said that you object to?

This is what I am saying

The vast majority of yoga taught at the chain place is taught very poorly,

by teachers of little experience,under not really the ideal conditions( neon lights, music blaring),subject to car sales man sales pitches( deals, negotiate,,,,!!!) They are not, in my opinion doing yoga at all.In the same way people who go to those taekwondo studios are not really doing something which is either Korean nor a martial art. Why call not something what it really is. I believe in the correct power of words.

Should we just ignore something because it sounds better and it suits us?

It may be nice and healthy, and that's good. But I simply do like what is going on.

And that still stands.

I do not want to list my " credentials" .

Yoga does not really have them.

I will say a little now simply so you can see I am not just slinging mud. And if you wish to dispute this we can meet in a more pleasant atmosphere and look into my claims.

Nowadays, precisely because of what is going on in this world they exist.

And this has been abused. Very abused. The same has happened in the martial arts world. For example most people think karate, judo, taekwondo are martial arts.

They are not. They never have been.

And here in Bangkok the most successful ones, like this chain yoga fad seem to thrive on this issue that upsets me. I suppose it shouldn't really.

People are paying a lot, spending their time yet they are not really getting what they pay for. Its almost as if they are being cheated and something I hold dear is being abused.

I have thrown more certificates away than I keep and try as best I can not to be on any of those facebooks,youtubes,,forums,etc.

I once spent a total of 2 and half years almost totally isolated on a very limited diet doing, or I should say, trying to do( we really can get into words here, but I will cut corners to save time) yoga.

I found something very very beautiful. Words cannot describe it.

Yoga is almost sacred to me.

I see it as something precious and as something that does not fit into this current mass marketing chain fitness world.

I feel sad when I see sexy young lady's ( another thing you list as your interests,at least we have something in common) poise on posters in not very good postures at that in order to attract enrollment and hear a hard sales pitch.

And to be perfectly honest with you the majority of teachers, again , in my opinion simply should not be teaching,even calling what they teach yoga.

I have walked away from Californian fitness, true, all those places ( bar on on thonglor run by a very nice man called justin) shaking my head.

Only one other man from Brazil had what i consider the depth of knowledge to be able to 'teach" ( again, getting into words, I was taught one can never really teach yoga, but here we're getting really into semantic's)

That's is my choice .I suppose I was influenced by my first teacher who I studied under from the age of 13 .

He actually predicted in in the late 70's that all this would happen.

Anyway,enough from me, I hope we can agree to disagree, as an educated I hope you investigate my claims and please let me know what you think.

Please really look into yoga deeply,read and talk to people who have been doing it daily all their lives and then please tell me this.

Are those chain places doing it justice? Are they teaching yoga?

sincerely best wishes

PS

if you would like to help our little charity of trying to send people into jails to teach yoga here in Thailand and abroad, you are welcome.

[mauiguy90]

You have made it apparent that you are the one with the complex!!! All these posts with no response...looks like you are talking to yourself...

And all this, when I asked simple question of whether you have actually practiced yoga in any one of these places. Oops, excuse me since from your posts, you can apparently subliminally experience entering these classes.

You are free to continue talk to yourself now. You are a l-natic...

PS Hope this keeps you up many many more nights!

Edited February 8, 2010 by mauiguy90

[bjoe97]

I have tried to be polite.

You are talking to me- therefore I am not talking only to myself. And I am receiving PM's.

You have chosen to not take me up on my offer.

What does that say about you?

I promise you this- I may make you look a fool, sorry, I mean more of a fool, but I will not take down your pants and spank you.

People like you are both cowards because you never meet, you hide behind the web, never back up your words and convictions, you never answer direct questions because you cannot, then make things personal- because deep inside you know how wrong you and how foolish I would make you look if we meet.

Come on lets set up a time and place.

I will bring books, DVD's, yoga experts. I will show you articles and a range of other things.

Do you want to learn - or continue this silly exchange of which you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper.

I spoke to a few today(More on that later) But you never will. I honestly wonder how people like you can look at yourself in the mirror.

What do you fear?

Answer- yourself! You see people like you all subconsciously know and try to suppress what they really are. This can change. And one way is to practice real yoga under a real teacher. Going to those chain places will only turn out more like you.We have enough of them in the world already.

You claim to be a gambling man( hey 100'000 baht is for you because you are so certain of what you say- why are you not taking me up on my bet? can you answer me just that one simple question?

here is another example of you claiming to be someone you are not, and someone who will not back up their words- oh dear, not doing too well are you?) and into education( is that not about seeking the truth? why are you so upset, its yourself who has made you look foolish, not I, as an educator do you not want to learn the truth?)

You are neither.

You are a coward and seeker and spreader of misinformation,bad practice and a typical example of modern day man.

A cowardly wannabee pretender who never backs up what they say, hides behind things and is only concerned about their own pathetic little ego's and being right.

( Guru Das please forgive me if you ever read this, it's just little people like this continue to niggle at me, so blind, so lame,so dross,so weak)

Lastly- I urge you.

Seek the truth. You can change and you are welcome to meet our friendly little group.

I promise I will only trash and spank you privately( just bend over and take it like a man,it will do you the world of good and you may even enjoy it)

- and you will see for yourself the difference of what you think yoga is all about.( although i haven't just exactly been a good example of it taking pleasure showing you up for whom you really are)

Okay, today, spoke to 4 people for you, aren't I kind,

I am actually really trying to help people because if you are an example of what happens when people go to chain yoga place- God help us! Nobody told me that apart from bad technique you also turn into a moron. Does one have to pay extra for that?

In a nutshell-

all have investigated all this( am i talking to myself???) so please do not try that one again

Chain yoga= substandard ( true, California,etc) some, simple awful, and beware of some Indian looking man on posters who claims to be a guru ( this isn't you is it?, after all you claim to be an educator)

Absolute yoga= great, a few depends upon, but by and large, very good.One of the best feedbacks.

The best school= justin on thonglor. Nobody expect one man from brazil comes close ( other than I modestly submit- our litle private group)

Good luck .Please, open your eyes, do not make things personal, let your ego go ( its hard, I can tell you that, but when one does, so much can be achieved)

[mauiguy90]

Don't worry, I am subliminally listening to you from afar!!!

And believe me, I'm try to get as far away from you as possible!

Edited February 8, 2010 by mauiguy90

[bjoe97]

hi half squat

Sorry I got detracted by someone who has done a great job of showing us what real yoga is NOT all about.

If you want to keep fit, and have the abilty to tell people you are doing yoga those chain places are fine. I think I have upset people because they simple do not like have a little wake up call and being informed that what they are doing sure ain't yoga- and being made to look rather silly.

One last place- cannot get the name for you, but good reports( from friends who love yoga and who all basicly say the same about true/california, thats its just fad yoga)

its oppisite the british embassy. Thats good I am told by someone who enrolled.

I would also like to offer you this advice. If you want the real thing- read a little first.One place not only could not answer my most basic of questions they did not have a clue what I was asking.

It was so obvious and it was the place recomended to you by my gambling loving, education fan who warns that one can be held responsible for what one says!! Love him!

Mass marketing, have to bargain, 10 sessions free, like this gent mentioned does not really fit in. Yoga is not like weights, aerobic's.

Good luck to you.

[HalfSquat]

Thanks for the replies. Not sure what I will do...

[bjoe97]

Thanks for the replies. Not sure what I will do...

there are so many nice things to do here.I am sure you will find something.Sometimes you may find something at first did not appeal, but you later got into.

and many nice people to assist

if you have spare time have you considered doing some charity work?it is most rewarding

good luck