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Thank you Animatic and others.

What sounds also crazy for me is that someone who likes women will like them forever, so Tiger will do it again for sure, so he should have said nothing or the next time he will be caught the situation will be worst ! (lying again)

Anyway, it's ok, I guess he couldn't be a black president, as you already have your quota now :-) (will the next one be of Spanish origin or Asian ?)

Cheers.

As I said a comment would come in making my point all too clearly.

A disinformation campaign coupled with spurious suits and innuendo was aimed at Clinton

for the better part of 10 full years, all it got was his denying he had sex with Monica.

This supposed exposing himself is more of that innuendo and spuriousness.

And the senate threw that out as the badger game BS it was.

It is still coming on to this day, there are those who can't stand that they didn't nail him to a wall.

Suing Clinton, and Ken Starrs persecutions etc was all part of the witch hunt.

And the false suits that went no where. And it continues to warp his legacy, or memories of back then...

Easy enough to pay some Arkansas secretary to make a claim for a nice little stipend down the line.

And many people in high positions pay for unprovable nuisance suits to go away sooner than later...

Sure he was a ladies man, but this was all over the top, but miles and miles.

And that is so close to the whole Tiger Woods witch hunt: the self righteous wanting their pound of flesh.

That is totally germain to explaining to a French person what was seen in France at the time.

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Thank you Animatic and others.

What sounds also crazy for me is that someone who likes women will like them forever, so Tiger will do it again for sure, so he should have said nothing or the next time he will be caught the situation will be worst ! (lying again)

Anyway, it's ok, I guess he couldn't be a black president, as you already have your quota now :-) (will the next one be of Spanish origin or Asian ?)

Cheers.

As I said a comment would come in making my point all too clearly.

A disinformation campaign coupled with spurious suits and innuendo was aimed at Clinton

for the better part of 10 full years, all it got was his denying he had sex with Monica.

This supposed exposing himself is more of that innuendo and spuriousness.

And the senate threw that out as the badger game BS it was.

It is still coming on to this day, there are those who can't stand that they didn't nail him to a wall.

Suing Clinton, and Ken Starrs persecutions etc was all part of the witch hunt.

And the false suits that went now where. And it continues to warp his legacy, or memories of back then...

Easy enough to pay some Arkansas secretary to make a claim for a nice little stipend down the line.

Sure he was a ladies man, but this was all over the top, but miles and miles.

And that is so close to the whole Tiger Woods witch hunt: the self righteous wanting their pound of flesh.

That is totally germain to explaining to a French person what was seen in France at the time.

Sex aside, bottom line he lied under oath. They found his semen on her dress. It's not about an affair, its about a sitting president lying under oath.

Granted he should never been there in the first place, but he did lie. Not sure about other countries, but when you raise your right hand and lie they call it perjury punishable by 5 years in jail. I wonder if I lied under oath how they would treat me? I doubt anyone would come to my defense.

Off topic....

see the airplane crash in Austin when you refer to "pound of flesh" That term gets thrown around a little too much.

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Thank you Animatic and others.

What sounds also crazy for me is that someone who likes women will like them forever, so Tiger will do it again for sure, so he should have said nothing or the next time he will be caught the situation will be worst ! (lying again)

Anyway, it's ok, I guess he couldn't be a black president, as you already have your quota now :-) (will the next one be of Spanish origin or Asian ?)

Cheers.

I'm hoping for a Martian. I hear they let you buy beer between 11 and 2.

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He lied about something that should have remained totally private and never been into court at all.

Witch hunt politics, nothing more nothing less. It was absurd and ridiculous that it even got to deposition stage.

And of you think other presidents haven't lied in public think again... a few hundred times.

And lets compare Clintons issue with G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney and his Haliburton stock and Iraq contracts.

What Clinton did under oath is nothing in comparison.

And that is how a french person would understand this best.

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He lied about something that should have remained totally private and never been into court at all.

Witch hunt politics, nothing more nothing less. It was absurd and ridiculous that it even got to deposition stage.

And of you think other presidents haven't lied in public think again... a few hundred times.

And that is how a french person would understand this best.

Another good point from you. Are you a professor? Presidents lie all the time. I lie to my wife about how many beers I had tonight. I told her 3 when it's actually 6. I wasn't under oath though. There are alot of people sitting in jail for lying under oath in the US. That is the key point. Granted it never should have gone that far, but it did and he lied. No way around that.

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This is news ???

Totally 100% Male Bovine Waste Fecal Matter.

Let us who are innocent cast the first stone.

Not really news. Just a fun conversation. Last time I brought up something about Mr. T I got booted off. Picking on Clinton seems to be ok.

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He should have been back on the golf course within a day or two of this happening. Getting back on the horse, or perhaps getting off in his case. :)

It should have been a private affair, he and his advisers let it blow out of all proportion. Can't blame his sponsors, I bet the likes of Rory McIlroy, Ryu Ishikawa etc will be taking a very big slice of what was once Tigers sponsorship territory.

When he does get back on the course? He is and was very good at his chosen sport, will he reach such heights again, maybe not?

I can just imagine what some of his not so nice competitors will be saying to him just before important shots, we know he gets wound up.

Time will tell.

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He lied about something that should have remained totally private and never been into court at all.

Witch hunt politics, nothing more nothing less. It was absurd and ridiculous that it even got to deposition stage.

And of you think other presidents haven't lied in public think again... a few hundred times.

And lets compare Clintons issue with G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney and his Haliburton stock and Iraq contracts.

What Clinton did under oath is nothing in comparison.

And that is how a french person would understand this best.

Your overt bias does not change facts, and your defending Clinton's sexual assault of a public employee in the state of which he was govern at the time, only proves your level of good conduct is determined by your like or dislike of the people involved and maybe nothing to do with the law.

Calling that state employee a lair because she accuses your pet pol does not make him innocent of wrong doing.

Casting others for his bad conduct won't change history. Saying Bush is worse has nothing to do with Clinton's sexual assault of a public employee.

Sexual assault was at the heart of the matter, and she had a right to have him in court under oath.

This is why Tiger is not anything like Clinton.

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I thought that this forum was for news in THAILAND.....

Or about Thailand. Apart from Tiger being a global star and Golf is very much played by farang in Thailand, his mother is Thai and the title is "Tiger Woods to return to Buddhist roots learned from Thai Mother". That's a strong enough link to Thailand.

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They get divorced and both walk away with more money than they can likely spend the rest of their lives. Definitely no victims here.

Just a couple of kids who will be shuttled between two dysfunctional households.

I don't know about two dysfunctional households. Perhaps one dysfunctional father. If he gets visitation with them for one weekend a month, then they would probably see him as much as they did before the story broke. Make a clean break and they never go through it again. I doubt Tiger is ready to give up his other life. He is just trying to salvage endorsements at this point.

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I thought that this forum was for news in THAILAND.....

Or about Thailand. Apart from Tiger being a global star and Golf is very much played by farang in Thailand, his mother is Thai and the title is "Tiger Woods to return to Buddhist roots learned from Thai Mother". That's a strong enough link to Thailand.

Apart from the sensational headline, this story has zip to do with Thailand. All woods says is that he is going to return to being a Buddhist, doesn't say anything about him coming to Thailand....

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Oh jeez, we can't even get away from news about this monger while here in Thailand. :) Maybe we can get away from the Tiger news if we travel on over to Burma. Later dude. Burma or bust. The guy is a d**che bag extraordinaire...a first class dirt bag.

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I thought that this forum was for news in THAILAND.....

Or about Thailand. Apart from Tiger being a global star and Golf is very much played by farang in Thailand, his mother is Thai and the title is "Tiger Woods to return to Buddhist roots learned from Thai Mother". That's a strong enough link to Thailand.

Apart from the sensational headline, this story has zip to do with Thailand. All woods says is that he is going to return to being a Buddhist, doesn't say anything about him coming to Thailand....

I think the topic is definitely Thai related. I don’t know which forum though. Perhaps the travel forum because Tiger would be much happier if he traveled to Thailand. Or maybe the Pattaya forum because he sure would be a lot happier in Pattaya. Or maybe the health forum because it was announced recently that an active sex life is good for your heart. Or maybe the Thai language forum because he will need a tutor to teach him how to say butterfly in Thai. Or maybe the business forum because he is going about his whole apology thing wrong. There are a lot of sponsors out there who would line up for the new Tiger from Thailand image.

He could start leasing Tiger’s plaza for bars and golfing instruction shops. Nana’s lease expires soon and he is a natural to buy the whole place.

Maybe the Ladies forum is the proper place because he seems to like older Farang ladies. Or Family and children because he sure has messed up his. Maybe the Gay forum because there is talk of that on Thai TV shows (the blond Thai guy that is part of that comedy/news team).

Maybe the Farming in Thailand forum because he sure is sowing a lot of Thai seed around the world.

And for sure the Pub forum because this whole thing would be better off being discussed in a Pub.

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They get divorced and both walk away with more money than they can likely spend the rest of their lives. Definitely no victims here.

Really? The wife is not a victim? What if Tiger contracted HIV from one of his squeezes and then infected his wife with HIV? Still no victim? What if they get divorced? The children are not victims? Are the public citizenry victims or his sponsers who lost money victims? Are his wifes family and his family victims due to the public outing and media exposure? Are the mistresses who fell in love with him victims? HMMMM

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They get divorced and both walk away with more money than they can likely spend the rest of their lives. Definitely no victims here.

Really? The wife is not a victim? What if Tiger contracted HIV from one of his squeezes and then infected his wife with HIV? Still no victim? What if they get divorced? The children are not victims? Are the public citizenry victims or his sponsers who lost money victims? Are his wifes family and his family victims due to the public outing and media exposure? Are the mistresses who fell in love with him victims? HMMMM

Ahh, victimhood eh. Only people who are victims are those who think they are. It's a sleight of the mind.

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Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Tiger offered Thai citizenship by the king a few years ago and he refused it? I can recall reading this a few years ago.

Yes you are right but him and his mother suffered so much from racism would you have accepted it??

they didnt want to know before he made it big, typical thailand

now he cheats, lies and drives like a thai!!

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He lied about something that should have remained totally private and never been into court at all.

Witch hunt politics, nothing more nothing less. It was absurd and ridiculous that it even got to deposition stage.

And of you think other presidents haven't lied in public think again... a few hundred times.

And lets compare Clintons issue with G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney and his Haliburton stock and Iraq contracts.

What Clinton did under oath is nothing in comparison.

And that is how a french person would understand this best.

Your overt bias does not change facts, and your defending Clinton's sexual assault of a public employee in the state of which he was govern at the time, only proves your level of good conduct is determined by your like or dislike of the people involved and maybe nothing to do with the law.

Calling that state employee a lair because she accuses your pet pol does not make him innocent of wrong doing.

Casting others for his bad conduct won't change history. Saying Bush is worse has nothing to do with Clinton's sexual assault of a public employee.

Sexual assault was at the heart of the matter, and she had a right to have him in court under oath.

This is why Tiger is not anything like Clinton.

He is not my pet pol as you infer.

I never believed there was a case to bring him into court with,

that is the difference. I belived then and now it was completely manufactured,

because they couldn't actually nail him and were desperate to do so.

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Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Tiger offered Thai citizenship by the king a few years ago and he refused it? I can recall reading this a few years ago.

Tiger was invited to meet with the King. Tiger sent a letter of regret which was printed in Thai newspapers. Tiger was 20 a the time. He is eligible for a Thai birth certificate.

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I wonder what he name of his night club in Pattaya will be?

don't understand hy his sponsers dropped. him. unless his olf was bad. anyway. apperently his mum is from Pattaya and his dad was a yankie and they meet during the Vietnam war when his farther was stationed at Utdapal airport.

i don't know why they covered this up and said that his mum was from hawaii

All except that Tiger's dad being a Yankie (assuming you mean American) is not true.

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animatic, good to read your posts.

What's happening to tiger is a pretty accurate reflection of the society he's brought up in. On the one hand you have movies marketing and most of the culture in america selling, and being obsessed by, sex, while on the other hand you have these pseudo-religious sorts displaying their rank hypocrisy and anti-human values. How often have we seen these apparently puritanical 'people' being exposed for their own sexual pecadillos?

And what about all the politicians and senators who are in all sorts of beds apart from their marital one?

The part of american society that demands tiger apologises (what the bloody hel_l for?!), be contrite, beg for forgiveness, is sick. It's all about image, and nothing about nature, free-will, being human and fallible. Those conservative people can be as conservative as they want, but why do they insist, absolutely, on everybody else living the same sorry pathetic miserable lives that they choose to?

I wish tiger had just said nothing, and left these puritanical sorts frothing at the mouth, dribbling their hatred for humanity into their own empty vessels. They got their pound of flesh, i wonder if they will now let him be.

People in society who spend their lives judging and moralising on others never see that their humanity is so much less than their targets.

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One thing surprises me about this situation.

Tiger is - what 33? - a handsome chap, great physique and very fit, world famous multi-millionaire sportsman.

He could probably have had almost any woman he wanted but he chose a bunch of low class coffee shop waitresses, shop clerks - even out and out Porn actresses.

Thais believe that everyone inherits certain character traits and behaviour patterns from their birth parents - collectively called "sandarn" in Thai - and that these traits can never be changed even if the child is brought up in an entirely different social and financial situation to that of its' biological parents. Many Thais I know simply shrug their shoulders at Tigers indiscretions and say "sandarn Mae" .

Patrick

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Tiger woods trying to go back to his Thai mother's roots is Thai related. Bill Clinton's affairs are not.

Oh I agree 100%,

it was just the best reference point to explain to the french national what the situation with Tiger is.

And of course on cue the opposition pole spoke up... as i predicted.

Femi F thanks for the positive comment.

Tiger has no choice but to be a bit more Zen and put on the business show,

since deep pocket sponsors are scared of conservative backlash.

And yes, why these people insist that others join them in denial of lifes

more basic functions in their own lives, is a long unanswered question for the ages.

As to Tigers choices in ladies.

Well good boys often want a little bad, they just don't want to live with it every day.

If their women tried to 'act out'at home a bit more, rather than buy into the putitanical

' being good is 24/7 and in their marital beds too', then maybe more men in USA wouldn't stray as much.

NOT blaming the women per se. But just noting that it's been said

" A gentleman wants a lady in public and a whore in bed."

to which is added, "hopefully the same lady in both places."

Add to that that the ones most likely to 'come on' to a super star are not the good girls,

so much greater opportunity with that type. And as to the porn star, well aren't they

expected to be uninhibited and wildly demonstrative lovers? Certainly they are.

And that is not a bad thing for any mans ego.

But you don't want to bring them home to mom.

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Tiger's Woods problems have nothing to do with either American values or its culture. He has a behavioural problem and it is typical of people with his personality: All controling and very successful. His behaviour has been seen in people from other cultures and other countries that had the same success and position in life. A tip off to his being a control freak was the way in which he made the announcement: No questions allowed and only a select few trusted friends and business associates were allowed to be present.

Does he feel remorse? I don't know. I doubt it, but it's not my place to judge him. If Thai religious beliefs can help him, well then, why not? However, he should have started off by not being petty. Making the announcement on a Friday the day before the Accenture tourney when the biggest names were going to tee off served to derail that event. Was it a slap at Accenture that dumped him? Was it a message to the other players that he was going to take the spotlight away from them and show that he was a bigger star? He could have waited until midweek to make his empty statement.

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