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So their material they use seems to be very similar. I'm guessing the cut wouldn't be. But the price of a JT shirt seems to be a little cheaper than a Tommy Bahama shirt. So what would you say about the differences in quality?

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Who knows - in both cases a large slice of the retail price is for the brand name, not the quality of the clothing e.g. counterfeit Levi 501's made in Thailand (no genuine 501's are made in Thailand - only 2 factories in the world where 501's are made) will last just as long as the real McCoy, but will cost less than half the price of the genuine article.

It's the brand name thats determines retail price - not side by side quality. Another point to keep in mind here is that JT is known primarily for the silk it makes - its shirts are value added products. TB doesn't manufacturer the material they make shirts from so far as I know - they buy it from 3rd party manufacturers, then commission a factory to make the shirt. Same same Nike - Nike doesn't own a shoe factory anywhere in the world, and doesn't make shoes/trainers - Nike's asset base and share value is it's brand name (and trade mark: the "Swoosh" symbol) - Nike designs shoes, but all Nike production is contracted/sub-contracted out to independently owned shoe making factories, who will/could be making for Puma, as well as Reebok, as well as Saucony et etc .......... they all run pretty much the same business model.

JT and TB side by side .... I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other, both nice products, but as you point out, each with a slightly different cut - so the better one is going to be the one that fits you more comfortably, as it with with trainers ..... they're all pretty much the same quality nowadays.

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Who knows - in both cases a large slice of the retail price is for the brand name, not the quality of the clothing e.g. counterfeit Levi 501's made in Thailand (no genuine 501's are made in Thailand - only 2 factories in the world where 501's are made) will last just as long as the real McCoy, but will cost less than half the price of the genuine article.

It's the brand name thats determines retail price - not side by side quality. Another point to keep in mind here is that JT is known primarily for the silk it makes - its shirts are value added products. TB doesn't manufacturer the material they make shirts from so far as I know - they buy it from 3rd party manufacturers, then commission a factory to make the shirt. Same same Nike - Nike doesn't own a shoe factory anywhere in the world, and doesn't make shoes/trainers - Nike's asset base and share value is it's brand name (and trade mark: the "Swoosh" symbol) - Nike designs shoes, but all Nike production is contracted/sub-contracted out to independently owned shoe making factories, who will/could be making for Puma, as well as Reebok, as well as Saucony et etc .......... they all run pretty much the same business model.

JT and TB side by side .... I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other, both nice products, but as you point out, each with a slightly different cut - so the better one is going to be the one that fits you more comfortably, as it with with trainers ..... they're all pretty much the same quality nowadays.

So where are the two factories that make genuine Levis? I have seen several different mgf countries listed in the labels of Levis that i have purchased in USA, which I presume were not counterfeit. Mexico for one.

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Who knows - in both cases a large slice of the retail price is for the brand name, not the quality of the clothing e.g. counterfeit Levi 501's made in Thailand (no genuine 501's are made in Thailand - only 2 factories in the world where 501's are made) will last just as long as the real McCoy, but will cost less than half the price of the genuine article.

It's the brand name thats determines retail price - not side by side quality. Another point to keep in mind here is that JT is known primarily for the silk it makes - its shirts are value added products. TB doesn't manufacturer the material they make shirts from so far as I know - they buy it from 3rd party manufacturers, then commission a factory to make the shirt. Same same Nike - Nike doesn't own a shoe factory anywhere in the world, and doesn't make shoes/trainers - Nike's asset base and share value is it's brand name (and trade mark: the "Swoosh" symbol) - Nike designs shoes, but all Nike production is contracted/sub-contracted out to independently owned shoe making factories, who will/could be making for Puma, as well as Reebok, as well as Saucony et etc .......... they all run pretty much the same business model.

JT and TB side by side .... I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other, both nice products, but as you point out, each with a slightly different cut - so the better one is going to be the one that fits you more comfortably, as it with with trainers ..... they're all pretty much the same quality nowadays.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I think that will encourage me to take another look at JT again then. I notice that they use different fabrics and the one closest to TB is their high priced ones. Their prices range from 2000-3500 THB depending on the fabric.

501's use to fit me but no more. Generally can only wear Diesel with the wider leg which as a style is pretty rare these days. I forget their name for it as I haven't had to buy a pair of jeans in 2 years. I remember now the style that fit me best was Kratt not Kuratt but Kratt I think. Sadly they don't make it anymore as it was one of the best pair of jeans I ever bought. Bought in a boutique in South Yarra, Melbourne 2002

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Who knows - in both cases a large slice of the retail price is for the brand name, not the quality of the clothing e.g. counterfeit Levi 501's made in Thailand (no genuine 501's are made in Thailand - only 2 factories in the world where 501's are made) will last just as long as the real McCoy, but will cost less than half the price of the genuine article.

It's the brand name thats determines retail price - not side by side quality. Another point to keep in mind here is that JT is known primarily for the silk it makes - its shirts are value added products. TB doesn't manufacturer the material they make shirts from so far as I know - they buy it from 3rd party manufacturers, then commission a factory to make the shirt. Same same Nike - Nike doesn't own a shoe factory anywhere in the world, and doesn't make shoes/trainers - Nike's asset base and share value is it's brand name (and trade mark: the "Swoosh" symbol) - Nike designs shoes, but all Nike production is contracted/sub-contracted out to independently owned shoe making factories, who will/could be making for Puma, as well as Reebok, as well as Saucony et etc .......... they all run pretty much the same business model.

JT and TB side by side .... I'd say they're pretty much on par with each other, both nice products, but as you point out, each with a slightly different cut - so the better one is going to be the one that fits you more comfortably, as it with with trainers ..... they're all pretty much the same quality nowadays.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I think that will encourage me to take another look at JT again then. I notice that they use different fabrics and the one closest to TB is their high priced ones. Their prices range from 2000-3500 THB depending on the fabric.

501's use to fit me but no more. Generally can only wear Diesel with the wider leg which as a style is pretty rare these days. I forget their name for it as I haven't had to buy a pair of jeans in 2 years. I remember now the style that fit me best was Kratt not Kuratt but Kratt I think. Sadly they don't make it anymore as it was one of the best pair of jeans I ever bought. Bought in a boutique in South Yarra, Melbourne 2002

The Levis sold in Thailand and Malaysia are not the same cut as USA. As with many sizes, the cut is smaller in Asia for the same size marking. I presume the Levis sold in a dept store in Thailand are genuine, but who knows. I am no expert on this stuff.

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