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Thinking about what happened last time to Thaksin,do you think the main reason Abhisit stayed in the country was because of the possibility of a coup again? what comes around goes around and he is concerned it could very well happen again.

If he stays in control at the very least he could stay involved and be part of the future election process.

And if he did dissolve parliament what would you think the majority would be at the election? would it be a sign that he has given in to Thaksins pressure or a sign of strength that he is confident they will win the majority of votes.

If the army intervene this weekend should we see it as an act of weakness by Abhisit and his men or just him using all the powers that he has to keep afloat a sinking ship?

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The reds have fizzled. They'll be lucky to gather 100K people. Swan song now. Abhisit just needs to sit tight until the storm has passed and proven the dud that it is. Their big mistake -- not denouncing the Cambodian.

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The reds have fizzled. They'll be lucky to gather 100K people. Swan song now. Abhisit just needs to sit tight until the storm has passed and proven the dud that it is. Their big mistake -- not denouncing the Cambodian.

Som Nom Na springs to mind.

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And if he did dissolve parliament what would you think the majority would be at the election?

I believe no one party would win a majority, just as in the last election.

We'd end up with the same old faces as MPs. Only change might be right at the top of the totem pole. If it changes to be Thaksin friendly, that means yellows back on the streets. If it stays Thaksin unfriendly, well then the reds continue on their current path. End result, no change.

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So if they are meeting up today and protesting/marching on Sunday, then what are they going to do with themselves tomorrow?

Rest day! :) For 300 bt a day they may all go shopping.although i think it will be a tad more interesting in Bangkok saturday night....i personally still think people are underestimating what numbers will be there come Sunday.

I know a million is a wild statement,but 200.000 is feasable and a lot of people to control

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Funny spin. 200K would be a victory, huh? Down from one million. Total BS. So they then would deserve to crush a legitimate government with their puny angry mob? I think not.

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Funny spin. 200K would be a victory, huh? Down from one million. Total BS. So they then would deserve to crush a legitimate government with their puny angry mob? I think not.

I think you should not just think of the size of crowd,you are old enough to know that it is the quality that counts!

I think that if they get enough publicity from this weekend and there is no trouble,then yes they deserve an election.

Legitimate government?? really,is that what you call it? :)

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I think that if they get enough publicity from this weekend and there is no trouble,then yes they deserve an election.

Thats rubbish, sorry not a personal attack but Nadtatida1, this is no way to go about politics. This mob will still be complaining and wingeing and protesting up until the next election is actually due & even then if their crap continues they would of lost even more voters and wont stand a chance. Thai people are waking up to their tune.

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Funny spin. 200K would be a victory, huh? Down from one million. Total BS. So they then would deserve to crush a legitimate government with their puny angry mob? I think not.

It won't be close to 100 k!

Red shirts at Wong Wien Yai disperse

The red-shirt demonstrators at the Wong Wien Yai dispersed at 1:30 pm Friday.

Jatuporn Promphan, a red-shirt leader, left the demonstration ground after performing a rite to commence the rally at noon.

The protesters left on their pick-up trucks.

The Nation

they will find themselves at the losing end....

someone may have o look for new tactics, the only feasible is new elections!

Wait and see what happens...

fi the Thai people wake up, they can defeat this guy to shame!

Cursing... Ceremony!

Among their main activities is the cursing ceremony held at five locations, Lak Si Circle, Taksin Circle, Din Daeng Junction, Lumpini Park and Bang Na Intersection.

A separate ceremony is also held in Nonthaburi.

Source:

as foolish as their master... it's getting ever more ridiculous!

How many Nutta's are around in their ranks, no wonder they can't accomplish anything!

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I think that if they get enough publicity from this weekend and there is no trouble,then yes they deserve an election.

Thats rubbish, sorry not a personal attack but Nadtatida1, this is no way to go about politics. This mob will still be complaining and wingeing and protesting up until the next election is actually due & even then if their crap continues they would of lost even more voters and wont stand a chance. Thai people are waking up to their tune.

A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?.....sorry i think you are wrong and didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

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I think that if they get enough publicity from this weekend and there is no trouble,then yes they deserve an election.

So if 200,000 odd people hit the streets and manage to control themselves from violence, they must be rewarded... and what about the other 60 million odd people who stayed at home... no rewards for them?

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^I was actually referring to this mornings charade, i was talking as an observer of the overall situation.

Peaceful, lets just wait to see what is drummed up before the end of the weekend.

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A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?

Absolutely yes, but democracy also means doing what is right for the entire population, not just 200,000 people.

didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

Didn't you condemn that action? Didn't the reds condemn it? I know i did. Just cos the yellows did something, does that it make it right for the reds to?

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I think that if they get enough publicity from this weekend and there is no trouble,then yes they deserve an election.

Thats rubbish, sorry not a personal attack but Nadtatida1, this is no way to go about politics. This mob will still be complaining and wingeing and protesting up until the next election is actually due & even then if their crap continues they would of lost even more voters and wont stand a chance. Thai people are waking up to their tune.

A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?.....sorry i think you are wrong and didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

Ohh yes, very peaceful, congrads :)

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bombs-Hit-Su...rt-t346731.html

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Options are:

1. Status quo after the rally

2. Succesful coup

3. Unsuccesful coup leading to any of the other options

4. Same government new PM

5. Same PM different government

6. PTP backed new government

7. Complete revolution with Thaksin walking back in and nobody really in control

8. Complete breakdown in law and order and government with nobody in control and the military hopelessly divided.

9. Caretaker government with election called and PTP boycotting

10. Caretaker government with election called and PTP taking part

Most analysts and even some powerful PTP figures are stating number 1 after the rally. However, in Thai politcs anything could happen

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So if they are meeting up today and protesting/marching on Sunday, then what are they going to do with themselves tomorrow?

same thing they do every other day of the year. eat som tam, have a dump, pick their nose, drink a bottle of whiskey and then fall asleep. wake up and repeat the process..

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So if they are meeting up today and protesting/marching on Sunday, then what are they going to do with themselves tomorrow?

same thing they do every other day of the year. eat som tam, have a dump, pick their nose, drink a bottle of whiskey and then fall asleep. wake up and repeat the process..

:):D:D:D

ahh..now that i've recovered..thanks for the giggles :D

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A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?

Absolutely yes, but democracy also means doing what is right for the entire population, not just 200,000 people.

didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

Didn't you condemn that action? Didn't the reds condemn it? I know i did. Just cos the yellows did something, does that it make it right for the reds to?

I think you know that come an election these 200,000 people will have the majority of the vote,like history shows.

And i do not agee with any violence to win poularity

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A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?

Absolutely yes, but democracy also means doing what is right for the entire population, not just 200,000 people.

didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

Didn't you condemn that action? Didn't the reds condemn it? I know i did. Just cos the yellows did something, does that it make it right for the reds to?

I think you know that come an election these 200,000 people will have the majority of the vote,like history shows.

And i do not agee with any violence to win poularity

I don't understand what you are trying to say. How can 200,000 people have the majority of the vote in a country of about 60 million people?

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A peaceful rally against the current government is exactly the right way to go in a democratic society......no?

Absolutely yes, but democracy also means doing what is right for the entire population, not just 200,000 people.

didn't the yellows have a mob at the airport whingeing and complaining similar to what you are saying??

Didn't you condemn that action? Didn't the reds condemn it? I know i did. Just cos the yellows did something, does that it make it right for the reds to?

I think you know that come an election these 200,000 people will have the majority of the vote,like history shows.

And i do not agee with any violence to win poularity

The nature of what happens over the next few days with this group of 200K, and any future rally, or whatever it becomes will have an effect on the outcome of the next election and indeed the timing of it.

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I think you know that come an election these 200,000 people will have the majority of the vote,like history shows.

History shows what happened in the past, it doesn't predict what will happen in the future.

Besides which, at the last election in 2007, those 200,000 people you speak of did not have the majority of the vote. They had a minority. A fraction larger than the Dems yes, but still a minority, and not enough to take power without grouping together with some smaller parties - you might be interested to know also that some of those smaller parties had campaigned on the promise that they would not join together with the PPP.

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Correct history shows what happened in the past,but can also give an indication of the way a particular country is governed,ie;dissolutions of parliments,coups and bodged elections,corruption(vote buying) in and among all sectors of power.

I do understand what you are saying and i hope whatever outcome it is a peaceful one,i feel the sooner an election the better,at least then maybe just maybe the powers that be start showing positive signs for the people of Thailand.

Also there was a lot of money changed hands at that 2007 election,and yes smaller parties involved.....i think it is not good to try and take figures from that in respect of what would happen now.

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And if he did dissolve parliament what would you think the majority would be at the election?

Most likely no party would get close to a clear majority and Thailand would form a coalition government. Thaksins party would loose support, but that support would not necessarily go to the democrats.

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And if he did dissolve parliament what would you think the majority would be at the election?

Most likely no party would get close to a clear majority and Thailand would form a coalition government. Thaksins party would loose support, but that support would not necessarily go to the democrats.

I think the same.

I think the Dem's might edge it with not enough to take government.

Then, either the dem's or PTP will form a coalition with other parties and we get to start this all over again.

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