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Heard that Tyson was training for his up coming fight in Bangkok ?

Any posters know if this is correct ? and if so, where in Bkk is the gym....

Also heard that he was here in Oz training.....

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The Fly  :o

re: tyson, hadnt heard that he was in bkk, he was the best, not so sure now!

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ThaiGeared_HighThaied Senior Member

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The guys in above thread are joke, underesteeming Tyson.

People think of Tyson as pure animal, with aowsome punching

power, but NO BRAIN?

Wrong, moving around a lot and poping and veawing

needs stamina that Tyson had until 1989 (before his

marriage with Robbin Givens).

He don't have stamina since 1990, because he didn't

like to train.

But remember, even the old tyson today, can tear any

muaythai, kickboxer, or any martial artist into pieaces

if it's come to bare-knuckle and no mouth-pieace fighting

IN A RING, , because he don't need stamina any longer

with all the fights ending in first round.

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Heard that Tyson was training for his up coming fight in Bangkok ?

Any posters know if this is correct ? and if so, where in Bkk is the gym....

Also heard that he was here in Oz training.....

Regards

The Fly  :o

re: tyson, hadnt heard that he was in bkk, he was the best, not so sure now!

A real shame that Cus D'Amoto didn't live a few years longer. When Tyson lived with D'Amoto and his sister his good side was in full bloom. I saw (on TV) many of his earlier fights and several documentaries. In addition to D'Amoto, Tyson was managed by Jacobs (who died around the same time as D'Amoto) who owned the largest collection of old fight films. Tyson was an expert on fighting styles, well conditioned, full of fury in the ring (with great hand speed and awesome power) and largely a sweet guy outside the ring.

I believe Tyson could have been the greatest fighter ever! And, I believe it was good old Don King who turned Tyson to the dark side (to steal from Star Wars).

While I was originally a very big fan of Tyson, eventually I tired of his behavior and diminshed conditioning and skills.

Its too bad he lost all his money and must continue fighting. Just a shadow of the fighter he was.

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#5, you edited that post!? It must have been really unreadable before the edit then!

Tyson's secret to his success was through winning the fights even before he got in the ring in the minds of his opponents. The ones who weren't phased by him were sadly too limited to take any real advantage of it. As soon as he lost his aura of invincibility he was never more than an average top 10 heavyweight.

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ThaiGeared_HighThaied Senior Member

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#5, you edited that post!? It must have been really unreadable before the edit then!

Tyson's secret to his success was through winning the fights even before he got in the ring in the minds of his opponents. The ones who weren't phased by him were sadly too limited to take any real advantage of it. As soon as he lost his aura of invincibility he was never more than an average top 10 heavyweight.

The question is why that invincible Tyson lost to a 42-1 underdog

like Buster Dougles?

I don't think you have paid attention to Tyson fights before mid of

1989 and after that. Dramatic changes happened to Tyson reflections

and movement in ring, Solely relaying on his chin and punching power.

Tyson had problems with having lot of money and woman after

gaining fame , it all changed his personality, i have been following

this single boxer/puncher life very closely.

After death of cus dumato and Jacob, kevin rooney also left

Tyson alone with bunch of black punks including Don King who

knew nothing about boxing and fight preperation.

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Thai boxing could kick-start new career for Mike Tyson

By Connie Levett, Herald Correspondent, in Bangkok

March 19, 2005

It's an unlikely match - a flailing Mike Tyson and the newly minted Thai boxing world championship series.

The 38-year-old bankrupt is being sought by the new World Boxing Council Muaythai organisation for a monthly series of title fights set for 12 countries across all weight divisions. The new organisation will issue world rankings for muay Thai fighters and plan the first series for the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas in July.

In muay Thai, a mixture of boxing and martial arts, opponents can use elbows, knees and feet as well as their fists to score points. They may not, however, bite, as Tyson did when he took off a piece of Evander Holyfield's ear in 1997.

"He is a boxer who can barely get a match-up. And this is an opportunity for him to become a martial arts warrior, a reformed person," said Patrick Cusick, secretary-general of the month-old World Boxing Council Muaythai organisation, which is pursuing Tyson for the newly sanctioned elite series.

If Tyson switches now, he could be ready for a July fight, said Mr Cusick, estimating Tyson would need only two to three months to learn the ropes.

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Advertisement"He understands fighting, he understands boxing skills. He has never been taught kicks and knee strikes but he would understand the elbows and punches very well," he said.

Tyson has apparently expressed interest in Thailand after Australia indicated it would refuse him permission to train there because of his criminal record. He was jailed for rape in 1992 and has continued to have run-ins with the law.

His trainer, the Australian Jeff Fenech, has sent a representative to inspect facilities at Bangkok's Fairtex gym, though not specifically in relation to muay Thai training.

"He likes muay Thai and he's being encouraged to make the switch," a World Boxing Council official involved in talks with Tyson told The Nation. "It's his best option right now."

Mr Cusick denied the push to get Tyson to switch to muay Thai was a cheap publicity gimmick. "No, there is genuine interest in it ... He may not be able to get another big fight in international boxing but he could in muay Thai."

Tyson's ring record includes the ear biting, trying to snap an opponent's elbow while in a clinch, throwing a punch well after the bell, refusing to stop fighting after the referee halted the bout with an outclassed opponent, inadvertently hitting the official and knocking him to the canvas, and refusing a pre-fight urine analysis, then testing positive for marijuana after the fight. But the WBC Muaythai organisation still wants him.

"The rules of muay Thai are very defined and strictly implemented," Mr Cusick said. "No biting allowed, no headbutting: he'd have to be told that very carefully."

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Tyson can still throw a punch, no one would like to be on the other end of him, he just does not move like he used to. Unfortunately, i do not see any glory in his continuing to fight, , once being the pinnacle of the boxing world, and now milling it with the lower ranks. I guess being a fighter never leaves your blood, and he still wants to make a living, but all the glory is gone.......i will still watch , however......

im probably one of the biggest Tyson fans.......

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Tyson can still throw a punch, no one would like to be on the other end of him, he just does not move like he used to.

Right this is exactly what i meant. Moving around fast requires

stamina that Tyson himself knows he don't have it.

Does anyone know why Emmanual stewart (who has reputation

for best best trainer in boxing) turned down the offer to train

Tyson?

Because he knew Tyson doesn't want to have professional

life.

Don't forget that Tyson has been banned from boxing

for one year, and three years in jail, so total 4 years of inactivity.

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Tyson lost to Douglas because Douglas had the self belief that he could win after he took Tyson's best. As soon as Tyson realised that Douglas wasn't going to lie down as the others had all of his natural instincts vanished.

They tried to put it down to a poor build up to the fight but that was a lame excuse. Tyson was his awesome self in the first half of that fight (including the so called 'long count' that Douglas took) and only ran out of gas when Douglas began to wack him back. Something Tyson had seldom experienced in a boxing ring in the past and he was found wanting as has he in subsequent losses since.

Had Jose Ribalta, James Tillis, Frank Bruno and Tony Tucker (all of whom shook and hurt Tyson - especially Bruno who if he had had the nous to follow up with a few more punches could have KO'd Tyson) had had a modicum of Douglas' self belief before their respective meetings with Tyson I wonder how much earlier Tyson's unbeaten run would have been finished. Tyson had the magic sign over them all however which is why he was so awsome.

I actually beleive that Tyson with the right handling (and given the lame state of heavyweight boxing today) could still be a force on a world stage.

Physically the full armoury is still in there, his biggest obstacle is that he has totally lost his aura of invincibility and ferocity and it is clear that he has lost his former ability to focus on a contest.

If I were in control of Tyson I would take him on a world tour where he could recoup conficence against selected opponents and get back some of the fundamental basics which made him the fighter he was, get away from the US media circus and his hangers on, make some much needed $$$$, and most importantly learn to fight from the beginning again.

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P Fart....

Are u kidding ?....Bruno never shook Tyson, NEVER..! and Tucker did not either, but Tucker fought a smart fight....as for the rest, they all lost !!! as did Bruno by knockout !!

You like to think that Tyson cant take a punch ??

Take a look at what Lennox Lewis landed on a flat footed Tyson ( who had not fought anybody body of Lewis's standard for years) for about 8 rounds of big hits that rocked Tyson on every connect......watch what Lewis says after the fight...Lewis could not believe that anyone could stand up to a beating like that....

Tyson will be a force in the Heavyweight divison again....

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Heard that Tyson was training for his up coming fight in Bangkok ?

Any posters know if this is correct ? and if so, where in Bkk is the gym....

Also heard that he was here in Oz training.....

Regards

The Fly   :o

MIKE WHO ?????

hey "nid-noi Robbo" , say it to him, it will be ur 2 seconds of fame, before u see if there really is a God !! :D

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especially Bruno who if he had had the nous to follow up with a few more punches could have KO'd Tyson

Bruno beat tyson - sorry Prof, can't entertain that idea, much as I like big Frank. And Tyson always had a good chin. Despite the Williams fight, I still reckon tyson could take out any of the current heavies, except for Vitali. Hope so anyway.

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I suggest you re watch the 1st Tyson - Bruno fight, and the Tyson  - Tucker fights. Both men shook Tyson and better men who weren't like rabbits caught in the headlights would/could/should have finished the job.

P F.... I think that u are refering to the "Tyson v Holyfield" fights......

I will say again, neither man u talk about rocked Tyson....Buster Douglas in Tokyo got the better of Tyson, using uppercuts.....that name again for u "P F" was "Buster Douglas", not Bruno or Tucker......"Buster Douglas"

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As I said, watch again!

Bruno Rattled Tyson to the soles of his feet and even had him wobbling but just stood there like a <deleted> while the nation (well those with Sky anyway) screamed at him. The rest is history.

Tucker (in their 12 round bore) somehow pulled a huge left hook which stopped Tyson in his tracks but the inept Tucker (coming in off a win over Douglas incidentally) just stood there not quite believing it before continuing his perpetual retreat.

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As I said, watch again!

Bruno Rattled Tyson to the soles of his feet and even had him wobbling but just stood there like a <deleted> while the nation (well those with Sky anyway) screamed at him. The rest is history.

Tucker (in their 12 round bore) somehow pulled a huge left hook which stopped Tyson in his tracks but the inept Tucker (coming in off a win over Douglas incidentally) just stood there not quite believing it before continuing his perpetual retreat.

Bruno rattled Tyson...yeh right.....that must have been before Tyson backed Bruno onto the ropes and proceeded to deliver 9" punches to Bruno's head and body ( I think Bruno would have needed some headache pills for a few weeks) and knocked Bruno out....I dont have the fight now, but remember counting each punch in the pub on the after fight replay......also that was the time when Lennox Lewis took a pay day to not fight Tyson, coz Lewis knew damm well that Tyson was very dangerous then and Lewis waited until Tyson was out of form and full of ring rust before Lewis and his people lined up a fight.....Lewis was a great heavyweight and it would have been a superfight to see him fight Tyson back then.......

Tucker was the only fighter to use his left against Tyson to effect, Tyson is very short for a heavyweight and Tucker used his left, so "Pro Fart"...Tucker was back in Tyson's early pro days and Bruno later and they both lost, did ur internet site tell u something different ?

In an earlier post u said that Tyson cant take a punch ?...but now ur saying that both Bruno and Tucker rattled Tyson to the "soles of his feet" but Tyson came back and won the fight ( so ur trying to say that they lost the fight, not that Tyson won it), that pretty good performance for a fighter who cant take a punch......which one is it ?

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Tucker was back in Tyson's early pro days and Bruno later and they both lost, did ur internet site tell u something different ?

You seem to be unable to grasp my point. I know Tyson won the fights. My point being that no one ever really wacked out at Tyson when they had him hurt.

Yes Tyson can and should be a force again.

Just re read my posts as I can't be arsed repeating yet again.

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Tucker was back in Tyson's early pro days and Bruno later and they both lost, did ur internet site tell u something different ?

You seem to be unable to grasp my point. I know Tyson won the fights. My point being that no one ever really wacked out at Tyson when they had him hurt.

Yes Tyson can and should be a force again.

Just re read my posts as I can't be arsed repeating yet again.

Pro Fart....

None of the fighters that u have mentioned EVER hurt Tyson.....

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Try and learn a little about boxing first and then re watch the fights.

I have been boxing all my life, unlike u who look up websites for your information to use to chat about boxing issue's....I know u do this by the perfect way that u know how to spell the names of fighters from South America etc. that fought long ago........

and ur getting all excited about Hatton winning....BIG DEAL....thats boxing....have u ever followed a fight before this Hatton fight ?...yeh yeh yeh of course u have and all that.....

You just lost any respect that u had Pro fart and dont try and be something that ur not....... dont answer this post u worm......your nothing but an "ARM CHAIR BOXER"

I have respect for any fighter that steps through the ropes to do battle.....I have done so many times myself and I know the feeling......its a great achievement, weather its a 8 year lad from South Africa or Bangkok or Ricky Hatton getting it on in England......

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