sarahsbloke Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) OK guys so here is the problem Moved house a couple of months back and just noticed the standing charge for the electricity is changing every month. Last month 'Kaa FieFar Taan' (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) 190bht + units used 83*0.9255 (บาท/หน่วย) + 7 percent This month 'Kaa FieFar Taan' (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) 470bht + units used 207*0.9255 (บาท/หน่วย) + 7 percent Now my last house had the same standing charge every month (as you would expect) I compared with my neighbour and their standing charges were different every month and different to mine. I thought the standing charge (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) would be the same for every house every month?? Any ideas?? (If you live in a condo this post is unlikely to apply to you or your bill) Edited March 27, 2010 by sarahsbloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I think the price of electricity varies with the amount used. When you used the 200+ units your unit price went up. I don't know the current price table / break points but others can advise there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) The more electricity you use the higher the charge is per kwh (per unit of electricity). For example: Last month I used 278 units and paid 989 baht (3.56 baht per unit), this month i used 342 units and paid 1242 baht (3.63 baht per unit). Does that help answer your question? Ohh one other thing, on your bill you will notice there is a section under where it states the amount of electricity you used. it has two parts, 1. that states a rate of 0.0000 & a baht fee and 2. 0.9255 and a baht rate next to that. My understanding of this is a portion of your bill gets charged at that rate outlined at point 2 and the rest of the bill at another rate which is calculated depending on the amount of electricity you used. Edited March 27, 2010 by neverdie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 not really as I am talking about the STANDING CHARGE rated at 0.0000bht per unit Kaa FieFar Taan' (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 not really as I am talking about the STANDING CHARGE rated at 0.0000bht per unitKaa FieFar Taan' (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) sorry, prior to you posting this i was adding more to what i said, look above ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 not really as I am talking about the STANDING CHARGE rated at 0.0000bht per unitKaa FieFar Taan' (ด่าไฟฟ้าฐาน) That's the per unit surcharge. DaaFaiFaaThaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 OK, maybe you are right Back in the UK the standing charge is a fixed fee by the util company, every household with the same company has the same fixed fee standing charge. I was pretty sure this was the case at my last Thai house .... but I didn't keep the bills when I moved. I guess this is Thailand so the same logic may not apply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 My FIL works for the electricity mob here. The reason it shows a rate of 0.0000 is because its a sliding scale based on the amount used. I agree, its different to what we had back home in Australia too. Im unsure what the portion (as a percentage is) for being charged at the fixed rate of .9255, I think some of his explanation was lost in my basic ability to understand <deleted> he was on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thanks for the explanation. Just goes to teach me a lesson, never make assumptions about what the hel_l is happening out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nio Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 My current bill is up 1800 a month over the highest bill I ever had I do not ever remember the charge at 0.9255 being on any other bills until this month? If you throw in VAT my total unit cost is up to 4.03 baht per unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 Ahh there we go, found something This was a 2005 post, so prices most likely went up a bit since, but it gives you a breakdown. First 150 units @ 1.8047 baht = 270.705 Next 250 units @ 2.7781 baht = 694.525 Next xxx units @ 2.9780 baht = ???.??? + standing charge...................... 40.9 baht + FT (fuel surcharge) =.....total units*0.4328 baht Everything charged at 7% VAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 (edited) Ahh there we go, found something This was a 2005 post, so prices most likely went up a bit since, but it gives you a breakdown. First 150 units @ 1.8047 baht = 270.705 Next 250 units @ 2.7781 baht = 694.525 Next xxx units @ 2.9780 baht = ???.??? + standing charge...................... 40.9 baht + FT (fuel surcharge) =.....total units*0.4328 baht Everything charged at 7% VAT ^ found here 2000 prices, not sure if they have changed, couldnt open the other page Edited March 27, 2010 by Donnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 here tis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thank you Donnyboy, that totally explains my bill. One wonders why they don't just print the bill out properly with all the details on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 I understood the first bit but the Ft part, I never got my head around, until reading this: Ft Charge is the additional expenditure which is altered by the oil price. PEA will calculate by using the ratio of cost of production that is increased on the period. Thats the bit I could never get my head around when it was being explained to me in thai. Now it makes perfectly good sense. So the going rate for that as at March, 2010 is .9255 (as opposed to the 0.6285 they are quoting at sept 08). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 27, 2010 Share Posted March 27, 2010 one day that Ft charge will be completely different, based on the current uranium prices???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony77 Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 if you are using over 200 units it will cost you bt4.04 per unit inc. tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 The more electricity you use the higher the charge is per kwh (per unit of electricity).For example: Last month I used 278 units and paid 989 baht (3.56 baht per unit), this month i used 342 units and paid 1242 baht (3.63 baht per unit). Does that help answer your question? what is the average consumption when you are in Thailand and live in your house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahsbloke Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm using between 150 and 210 units a month. But I rarely use the aircon, just fans, PC, TV, fridge, lights, kettle and rice cooker. (my wife sneaks the aircon on some nights so that pushes the bill up a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 (edited) if you are using over 200 units it will cost you bt4.04 per unit inc. tax. that is not quite correct because the surcharge varies based on prevailing energy prices. example: my last month's consumption was 2,927 kWh @ 2.95 Baht = 8,621 Baht, energy surcharge 0.9255 Baht per kWh = 2,737 Baht, VATax 795, total 12.152 Baht = average 4.15 Baht/kWh. Edited March 28, 2010 by Naam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecil2805 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi, I know how to work out my electricity bill to the last satang. I am happy to provide you with the calculation excel spread sheet I use. I am however unsure if I am able to give you my email address here, or mobile phone number? I am sorry that I am so vague about giving my contact details online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboy Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 ^ just PM the person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravion Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 apartment blocks, they charge like 6 per kw.... i use like 190kw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi,I know how to work out my electricity bill to the last satang. I am happy to provide you with the calculation excel spread sheet I use. I am however unsure if I am able to give you my email address here, or mobile phone number? I am sorry that I am so vague about giving my contact details online? Just upload the .xls to rapidshare or another free file share service, and post the link here for all to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 an excel spreadsheet to "work out" an electricity bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauriedog123 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I have posted an EXCEL Spreadsheet here: http://rapidshare.com/files/418927259/August.xls which I use. Enter the BEGINING and END meter readings. Adjust the GREEN numbers starting at the bottom until CALCULATED is equal to USED. If the FT changes then it will need updating. All current charges are here: http://www.pea.co.th/th/eng/page.php?name=Residential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) I have posted an EXCEL Spreadsheet here: http://rapidshare.co...7259/August.xls which I use. Enter the BEGINING and END meter readings. Adjust the GREEN numbers starting at the bottom until CALCULATED is equal to USED. If the FT changes then it will need updating. All current charges are here: Great stuff, thanks Edited September 14, 2010 by davehowden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I have posted an EXCEL Spreadsheet here: http://rapidshare.co...7259/August.xls which I use. Enter the BEGINING and END meter readings. Adjust the GREEN numbers starting at the bottom until CALCULATED is equal to USED. If the FT changes then it will need updating. All current charges are here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) Please ignore the "quote name" stuff at the top. Edited September 14, 2010 by davehowden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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