Freeze On Ice Production After Hepatitis Outbreak

[penzman]

"I heard that you get one free with every Segway."

Did sombody mention Segway?.....

Great marketing idea, since the Segway attracts chicks better than a puppy.

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Segway chicks?

Get a Harley dude!

[Scott]

Very correct to say that it's not the ice, it's the water. The one problem is that ice is handled by so many people--all the way from the factory, to the pick-up truck, to the restaurant and any of those people can be infectious and contaminate a great deal of ice. I mean take a look at some of the people unloading ice--pretty unhealthy looking and unhygenic conditions. Sometimes it's put through the crusher in the back of a truck--then they push what falls on the floor into a bag. The floor is the same one that they are standing on with boots that just stepped in dog crap!

[Ajarn]

Very correct to say that it's not the ice, it's the water.  The one problem is that ice is handled by so many people--all the way from the factory, to the pick-up truck, to the restaurant and any of those people can be infectious and contaminate a great deal of ice.  I mean take a look at some of the people unloading ice--pretty unhealthy looking and unhygenic conditions.  Sometimes it's put through the crusher in the back of a truck--then they push what falls on the floor into a bag.  The floor is the same one that they are standing on with boots that just stepped in dog crap!

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Good, but yucky, points.

[kreon]

plus wear your rubbers, can be transmitted through sex as well

thank goodness i had my hep a & b shots, a english friend of mine got "b" through water/food in bangkok, lost 40kg was sick fo +/- 6 months, so you've been warned get your shots

[peder.klockmann]

Penzman,

hahah you brought tears to my eyes, you are a genious!!

[astral]

I make my own ice, from the water I filter at home!!

Beer should NEVER have ice in it,

chill it first in the fridge!!

[Thetyim]

Does anyone here have any experience of a Waterex drinking water dispenser.

I have just received some spam on it and it sounds good and should work very well in LOS.

It works like a de-humdifier with a filter, you just plug it in and it gives you enough water each day for a family.

As it is condensed water it should be very clean.

Comments anyone ? Price unknown.

[Jeff Jarvis]

Millions of people die from contanimated water every year.

The Stirling engine concept is being perfected and may be available soon.

This machine can provide electricity and clean water in remote areas.

They are being tested in a pilot project in Surinam and Appalacia.

Dean Kamen, inventor of the heart stent, drug pump, kidney dialisis machine, IBOT wheelchair and the SegwayHT has the solution to the end of contaminated water with a revolutionary, Stirling engine.

http://www.dekaresearch.com/coreTech.html

//edit by RDN: any more of this spam and you're out of here. Get it?

Edited May 28, 2005 by RDN

[goatfarmer]

Basic hygiene policy: I avoid food stalls that wash their dishes in plastic basins. Only eat where there is running water. Tong sia is a now a very rare phenomenon.

I am meticulous about hep B shots. I have heard that there is a high chance of developing liver cancer in later age as a result of having had hep B. Anyone able to verify this?

[traveldog]

Hi guys...ok some clarification as some of you are getting the Hep A and B mixed up. Hep A is transmitted through contaminated food/water...usually through poor hygiene, ie not washing hands after crapping, usually very sick, but not usually fatal with no long term effects....Hep. B is transmitted from blood to blood contact or blood like products(semen), often through sharing contaminated IV needles or engaging in unprotected sex, very serious, causes long term damage to liver and is often fatal. The good news is there are the vacines for both A and B-so get em! The bad news is there are even more Hep viruses out there, like C which is just as gnarly as B...the fatal versions are transmitted like B...so keep it wrapped....

[Thetyim]

Thanks Traveldog, that concurs with my understanding of it.

I have been told that as I have already had Hep A, I do not need to be

vaccinated against it. Is this true ?

[bina]

thetiyem,

yes you are safe from hep a.... read my post u will understand why

hep b is directly linked to liver cancer our doctor for the kibbutz is a world expert on liver transplants and hep b (she was an awful family practicioner though, but sent round the world for livers) and i translated some stuff of hers to hebrew (u dont want to know about hep b and livers!)

hep c: keep it wrapped is right!!

fi you started these vaccines but didnt finish them, u have to start to whole thing over, not just get the one u missed cause the blood antigens dont build up properly otherwise... i know, i've twice skipped the last shot....

QUOTE(george @ 2005-05-25 22:46:44)

Freeze on ice production after hepatitis outbreak

Hepatitis A, spread through the consumption of contaminated food or water, causes jaundice for a couple of weeks, but normally clears up of its own accord.

--TNA 2005-05-25

MOST OF THE TIME THET, THIS IS TRUE

we were a pilate project in 1989+ for hep A immune testing and follow up (as i've notied, our doctor was a specialist in livers so we were guienea pits) with vaccines. since til then, anyone who'd been in the israeli army was exposed and had had hep a! (living conditions sanitation etc, army field style).... most adults showed the immune traces in blood; also most people said that they just felt like a very very bad flue....

now all kids are vaccinated at birth; i'm surprised that thai people , especially upcountry, are not mostly immune from having 'easy' cases? considering the way i saw people washing dishes etc in schools (children washing pots etc by hand in same bucket with soap and rinsed)....

and hep a is really easy to get also, not just ice, but almost anything any food vendor touches if the food vendor has it ,( once had it does not make u carrier like other heps.), or family member, when preparing food, etc...

for the worried tourist, a gamma globulin shot is good temporary protection...

SO MANLY DISEASES, SO LITTLE TIME.....

[Miaow]

this whole episode just goes to show.....always ask for fresh ice rather than the frozen stuff.   

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Hilarious!!!!

[Jeff Jarvis]

"I heard that you get one free with every Segway."

Did sombody mention Segway?.....

Great marketing idea, since the Segway attracts chicks better than a puppy.

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Segway chicks?

Get a Harley dude!

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