Rival Thai 'Yellows' Discuss Moves As 'Reds' Rally On

[Skywalker69]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

The reds announced that they were going to protest, and "burn Bangkok to the ground".

The government allowed the reds to come to Bangkok to protest.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Phan Fha bridge, so they confronted the military at 11th Regiment.

The government allowed the reds to confront the military, so they started their mobile rallies.

The government allowed the reds mobile rallies, so they set up at Ratchaprasong.

The government allowed the reds to protest at Ratchaprasong, so they went to Parliament and pushed through security and into parliament.

The government decided to enact the SOE, but let the protests continue.

The government decided to shut down the Red TV which was playing obviously doctored video/audio and inciting the protestors to become violent, so the Reds went to Thaicom and pushed through security to force them to allow Red TV back on air, so they could continue to incite violence.

The government decided to shut down the protest, and the reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The army went in with riot shields and rubber bullets, and the reds went in with petrol bombs and grenades. Then the live ammunition came out ... on both sides. 24 dead (6 soldiers). 800+ injured (200+ soldiers).

The reds got the violence that they had been inciting for a month.

The reds just push and push, until they get the violence that they are wanting.

If the government tries containment, the reds will just keep pushing until they get violence.

Good post, thanks.

[pornsasi]

I thought that this thread was about the yellow shirts not about the red shirts .

Fine lets talk about the red shirts then . The red shirts are thai citizens , they have the right to demonstrate in their country , and the right do so until their demands for immediate general elections is accepted . The closure of few luxury shopping malls is not the point , there are enough of those all around Bangkok where the affluent shoppers can choose their latest Vuitton bag or Gucci watches . I do not agree with the violent rethoric of some red shirts leaders but they have agreed to surrender on May 15

Now taking a step back :

Does anyone remember the huge demonstrations by the yellows and their violent slogans during the Thaksin government , the ones after his reelection of 2005 in a POPULAR election , i was in BKK that was pretty disturbing traffic and everything else . Does anyone here remember that in spite of his comfortable coalition majority in the house , Thaksin decided in Feb 2006 because of the unrest to call for new elections scheduled for April 2006 .

Those April 2006 elections were boycotted by the dems who bribed other smaller parties to do likewise , Thaksin TRT counter bribed . It was clear sabotage by the dems of the democratic process one of too many as we see now also prooves that they did not give a dam_n about disturbing the public . As elections were boycotted Thaksin was unable to form a majority coalition and was appointed care taker PM by HM . New elections were scheduled in Oct 2006 but before that a military coup was staged by the army with the blessing of the dems who knew that they stand no chance at that Oct 06 then forthcoming election .So the myth of Thaksin just a care taker PM at the moment of the coup , is only true because the dems sabotaged the democratic process . Thaksin was perfectly legitimate and forcibly removed by the army , the source of much of what is happening today .

Then following the coup in 2007 under the self appointed military backed government of CNS then CDC both the TRT (Thaksin party ) and the Dems were convicted of bribery for their stunt as above described by the office of the Attorney general . TRT was disbanded , Dems were acquitted both cases by a military appoint court . Lately the PT has brought to light some disturbing elements on that court decision

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255211180001

Then in 2008 the PPP was disbanded using a new constitution established by the military the year before and its article 237 , a constitution that has no democratic validity whatsoever

Now looking at the dem "eclatant" corruption record no need to bring the TPI Polene case (Most likely a dems sponsored hoax anyway to drive the red shirts home ) , or other cases like the heath ministry bribery case , the rotten can fish case , and so on and so forth , the 2007 case is enough to prove that the dems are no friend of democracy and are corrupt.

What about the recent Abhisit ordered crackdown which caused the death of 23 peoples on 10 April 09 ? here is the report of Amnesty International .

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/thailands-...transformation/

Funny nowhere I see mention of red shirts shooting at soldiers in that report . What I see instead is a strong suspicion of soldiers shooting at red shirts using live bullets .Videos by a french team were taken of soldiers shooting into the crowd with automatic fire , I can find the link for those who wants it .Also a report in the BBC indicate that a journalist found two red shirts shot by soldiers with live ammunition . Oh I know the soldiers shot but were they not shot by their renegate colleagues from nearby roof top ? Only one soldier was killed by a bamboo spear in what is certainly a case of self defence . Does anyone truly believe in middle aged and old rural folks , or even a few red security , shooting at a professional army ? What would they gain from it ? Their own massacre …

That comes on top of the Abhisit administration closing tens of internet sites , blocking red shirts TV and radio stations , while pure lies on ASTV are allowed to continue . It seems that the views of Mr Abhisit is that lies and fabrications are ok as long as they are not anti-government , his government only that is . Even K Bahnarn, and the CEO of Thai com told Mr Abhisit not to close the red TV channel , but Mr Abhisit must have had his pride hurted somewhat . Typical elitist reaction …

In short the current situation is caused by the refusal of the elite to accept electoral defeat but it can go only for so long . One can't repress democracy forever unless one is willing to spill blood endlessly .

Mr Abhisit has proven that he wont hesitate to use M16's with live bullets and censorship of the medias to maintain his grip on power . Worse then Thaksin it would seem

I just hope that Mr Abhisit , will FINALLY see the light , stop clinging to power and , like Thaksin did , in Feb2006 , call for speedy general elections to clean up the political mess and avoid further loss of life .

And of course refrain from use of force . I really am not for Thaksin , Abhisit, Julius Caesar or Jimmy Hendrix , i am for free general election

But then … I had a dream

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Edited April 19, 2010 by pornsasi

[FreedomDude]

.................

But that's not the story I'm getting from all of the "neutral" Thai news sources. It CAN'T be correct!

Seriously, thanks for a very thoughtful and enlightening post.

[ChiangMaiFun]

This is a nightmare!

This is a NATIONAL crisis - get a MANDATE from the people - Abhisit should show some moral leadership - hold elections get a mandate.

Reds fighting Yellows will spiral for years and years... Thailand does not need it - put oil on the water before it's too late

[yoshiwara]

This is a nightmare!

This is a NATIONAL crisis - get a MANDATE from the people - Abhisit should show some moral leadership - hold elections get a mandate.

Reds fighting Yellows will spiral for years and years... Thailand does not need it - put oil on the water before it's too late

When Thaksin apologists whine 'This is a nightmare', it means that they think they are losing.

Bullies in retreat.

But not without the synchronised mantra.

To get Thaksin back to action the armed forces reshuffle.

Before the scheduled elections.

[ChiangMaiFun]

This is a nightmare!

This is a NATIONAL crisis - get a MANDATE from the people - Abhisit should show some moral leadership - hold elections get a mandate.

Reds fighting Yellows will spiral for years and years... Thailand does not need it - put oil on the water before it's too late

When Thaksin apologists whine 'This is a nightmare', it means that they think they are losing.

Bullies in retreat.

But not without the synchronised mantra.

To get Thaksin back to action the armed forces reshuffle.

Before the scheduled elections.

'Thaksin apologists'? the same pathetic prose - I do NOT want Thaksin back nor am I apologising

Put your EGO to one side and think og Thailand - no matter what colour you may be - he needs a MANDATE before he starts the killing machine

[yoshiwara]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

What a pathetic post.

Agreed. Appallingly pathetic.

The phrase used 'The men are real men' is a thinly disguised echo of Thaksin's attack on gays, publicly accusing the government to be directed by 'mentally unstable homosexuals'.

It is just one example of how nonsensical is the red claim that they are a liberation force.

The forum red apologists parrot on about class war, but attacks on sexual orientation show them up for the fools that they are.

Deadly fools.

[LomSak27]

Doubt the Yellows will do this but just putting it out for PR - When thier money guys talk, Sondhi and the Yellows jump.

[KireB]

Then in 2008 the PPP was disbanded using a new constitution established by the military the year before and its article 237 , a constitution that has no democratic validity whatsoever

Seems you forget to mention the 2007 Referendum that brought forth this Constitution.

What about the recent Abhisit ordered crackdown which caused the death of 23 peoples on 10 April 09 ? here is the report of Amnesty International .

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/thailands-...transformation/

Funny nowhere I see mention of red shirts shooting at soldiers in that report . What I see instead is a strong suspicion of soldiers shooting at red shirts using live bullets .Videos by a french team were taken of soldiers shooting into the crowd with automatic fire , I

In short the current situation is caused by the refusal of the elite to accept electoral defeat but it can go only for so long . One can't repress democracy forever unless one is willing to spill blood endlessly .

Mr Abhisit has proven that he wont hesitate to use M16's with live bullets and censorship of the medias to maintain his grip on power . Worse then Thaksin it would seem

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Tak BAi, War on Drugs? Thaksin is responsible for crimes against humanity on a much larger scale than what you accuse Abhisit of.

PLease get your facts right and stop publishing blatant lies.

[unclejunta]

Thailand's human rights ranking was actually was much worse during Mark's watch. thaksin had a better ranking on the world human rights index.... you should be the one who get your facts right instead

[whiterussian]

I thought that this thread was about the yellow shirts not about the red shirts .

Fine lets talk about the red shirts then . The red shirts are thai citizens , they have the right to demonstrate in their country , and the right do so until their demands for immediate general elections is accepted . The closure of few luxury shopping malls is not the point , there are enough of those all around Bangkok where the affluent shoppers can choose their latest Vuitton bag or Gucci watches . I do not agree with the violent rethoric of some red shirts leaders but they have agreed to surrender on May 15

Now taking a step back :

Does anyone remember the huge demonstrations by the yellows and their violent slogans during the Thaksin government , the ones after his reelection of 2005 in a POPULAR election , i was in BKK that was pretty disturbing traffic and everything else . Does anyone here remember that in spite of his comfortable coalition majority in the house , Thaksin decided in Feb 2006 because of the unrest to call for new elections scheduled for April 2006 .

Those April 2006 elections were boycotted by the dems who bribed other smaller parties to do likewise , Thaksin TRT counter bribed . It was clear sabotage by the dems of the democratic process one of too many as we see now also prooves that they did not give a dam_n about disturbing the public . As elections were boycotted Thaksin was unable to form a majority coalition and was appointed care taker PM by HM . New elections were scheduled in Oct 2006 but before that a military coup was staged by the army with the blessing of the dems who knew that they stand no chance at that Oct 06 then forthcoming election .So the myth of Thaksin just a care taker PM at the moment of the coup , is only true because the dems sabotaged the democratic process . Thaksin was perfectly legitimate and forcibly removed by the army , the source of much of what is happening today .

Then following the coup in 2007 under the self appointed military backed government of CNS then CDC both the TRT (Thaksin party ) and the Dems were convicted of bribery for their stunt as above described by the office of the Attorney general . TRT was disbanded , Dems were acquitted both cases by a military appoint court . Lately the PT has brought to light some disturbing elements on that court decision

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255211180001

Then in 2008 the PPP was disbanded using a new constitution established by the military the year before and its article 237 , a constitution that has no democratic validity whatsoever

Now looking at the dem "eclatant" corruption record no need to bring the TPI Polene case (Most likely a dems sponsored hoax anyway to drive the red shirts home ) , or other cases like the heath ministry bribery case , the rotten can fish case , and so on and so forth , the 2007 case is enough to prove that the dems are no friend of democracy and are corrupt.

What about the recent Abhisit ordered crackdown which caused the death of 23 peoples on 10 April 09 ? here is the report of Amnesty International .

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/thailands-...transformation/

Funny nowhere I see mention of red shirts shooting at soldiers in that report . What I see instead is a strong suspicion of soldiers shooting at red shirts using live bullets .Videos by a french team were taken of soldiers shooting into the crowd with automatic fire , I can find the link for those who wants it .Also a report in the BBC indicate that a journalist found two red shirts shot by soldiers with live ammunition . Oh I know the soldiers shot but were they not shot by their renegate colleagues from nearby roof top ? Only one soldier was killed by a bamboo spear in what is certainly a case of self defence . Does anyone truly believe in middle aged and old rural folks , or even a few red security , shooting at a professional army ? What would they gain from it ? Their own massacre …

That comes on top of the Abhisit administration closing tens of internet sites , blocking red shirts TV and radio stations , while pure lies on ASTV are allowed to continue . It seems that the views of Mr Abhisit is that lies and fabrications are ok as long as they are not anti-government , his government only that is . Even K Bahnarn, and the CEO of Thai com told Mr Abhisit not to close the red TV channel , but Mr Abhisit must have had his pride hurted somewhat . Typical elitist reaction …

In short the current situation is caused by the refusal of the elite to accept electoral defeat but it can go only for so long . One can't repress democracy forever unless one is willing to spill blood endlessly .

Mr Abhisit has proven that he wont hesitate to use M16's with live bullets and censorship of the medias to maintain his grip on power . Worse then Thaksin it would seem

I just hope that Mr Abhisit , will FINALLY see the light , stop clinging to power and , like Thaksin did , in Feb2006 , call for speedy general elections to clean up the political mess and avoid further loss of life .

And of course refrain from use of force . I really am not for Thaksin , Abhisit, Julius Caesar or Jimmy Hendrix , i am for free general election

But then … I had a dream

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Agree!!!! It is every Thai's right to elect an ***hole into power! Goodness knows we westerners have done it enough times!

I think the war on terror may have corrupted a few farang brains! So many have crossed over to the dark side.

Edited April 19, 2010 by whiterussian

[yoshiwara]

Thailand's human rights ranking was actually was much worse during Mark's watch. thaksin had a better ranking on the world human rights index.... you should be the one who get your facts right instead

...says a rep from the PetrolBombChucker Party.

Next you will showing us a league table telling us that Thaksin moved Thailand up the anti-corruption listings.

[Crash999]

Oh I know the soldiers shot but were they not shot by their renegate colleagues from nearby roof top ? Only one soldier was killed by a bamboo spear in what is certainly a case of self defence .

Why is it 'certainly' a case of self defense- because the weapon was primitive? And the soldiers who were shot were shot by other solidiers? Come on now. Both sides are not without fault in this case, and anyone who watches video footage from that evening will see that.

[ChiangMaiFun]

I thought that this thread was about the yellow shirts not about the red shirts .

Fine lets talk about the red shirts then . The red shirts are thai citizens , they have the right to demonstrate in their country , and the right do so until their demands for immediate general elections is accepted . The closure of few luxury shopping malls is not the point , there are enough of those all around Bangkok where the affluent shoppers can choose their latest Vuitton bag or Gucci watches . I do not agree with the violent rethoric of some red shirts leaders but they have agreed to surrender on May 15

Now taking a step back :

Does anyone remember the huge demonstrations by the yellows and their violent slogans during the Thaksin government , the ones after his reelection of 2005 in a POPULAR election , i was in BKK that was pretty disturbing traffic and everything else . Does anyone here remember that in spite of his comfortable coalition majority in the house , Thaksin decided in Feb 2006 because of the unrest to call for new elections scheduled for April 2006 .

Those April 2006 elections were boycotted by the dems who bribed other smaller parties to do likewise , Thaksin TRT counter bribed . It was clear sabotage by the dems of the democratic process one of too many as we see now also prooves that they did not give a dam_n about disturbing the public . As elections were boycotted Thaksin was unable to form a majority coalition and was appointed care taker PM by HM . New elections were scheduled in Oct 2006 but before that a military coup was staged by the army with the blessing of the dems who knew that they stand no chance at that Oct 06 then forthcoming election .So the myth of Thaksin just a care taker PM at the moment of the coup , is only true because the dems sabotaged the democratic process . Thaksin was perfectly legitimate and forcibly removed by the army , the source of much of what is happening today .

Then following the coup in 2007 under the self appointed military backed government of CNS then CDC both the TRT (Thaksin party ) and the Dems were convicted of bribery for their stunt as above described by the office of the Attorney general . TRT was disbanded , Dems were acquitted both cases by a military appoint court . Lately the PT has brought to light some disturbing elements on that court decision

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255211180001

Then in 2008 the PPP was disbanded using a new constitution established by the military the year before and its article 237 , a constitution that has no democratic validity whatsoever

Now looking at the dem "eclatant" corruption record no need to bring the TPI Polene case (Most likely a dems sponsored hoax anyway to drive the red shirts home ) , or other cases like the heath ministry bribery case , the rotten can fish case , and so on and so forth , the 2007 case is enough to prove that the dems are no friend of democracy and are corrupt.

What about the recent Abhisit ordered crackdown which caused the death of 23 peoples on 10 April 09 ? here is the report of Amnesty International .

http://blog.amnestyusa.org/asia/thailands-...transformation/

Funny nowhere I see mention of red shirts shooting at soldiers in that report . What I see instead is a strong suspicion of soldiers shooting at red shirts using live bullets .Videos by a french team were taken of soldiers shooting into the crowd with automatic fire , I can find the link for those who wants it .Also a report in the BBC indicate that a journalist found two red shirts shot by soldiers with live ammunition . Oh I know the soldiers shot but were they not shot by their renegate colleagues from nearby roof top ? Only one soldier was killed by a bamboo spear in what is certainly a case of self defence . Does anyone truly believe in middle aged and old rural folks , or even a few red security , shooting at a professional army ? What would they gain from it ? Their own massacre …

That comes on top of the Abhisit administration closing tens of internet sites , blocking red shirts TV and radio stations , while pure lies on ASTV are allowed to continue . It seems that the views of Mr Abhisit is that lies and fabrications are ok as long as they are not anti-government , his government only that is . Even K Bahnarn, and the CEO of Thai com told Mr Abhisit not to close the red TV channel , but Mr Abhisit must have had his pride hurted somewhat . Typical elitist reaction …

In short the current situation is caused by the refusal of the elite to accept electoral defeat but it can go only for so long . One can't repress democracy forever unless one is willing to spill blood endlessly .

Mr Abhisit has proven that he wont hesitate to use M16's with live bullets and censorship of the medias to maintain his grip on power . Worse then Thaksin it would seem

I just hope that Mr Abhisit , will FINALLY see the light , stop clinging to power and , like Thaksin did , in Feb2006 , call for speedy general elections to clean up the political mess and avoid further loss of life .

And of course refrain from use of force . I really am not for Thaksin , Abhisit, Julius Caesar or Jimmy Hendrix , i am for free general election

But then … I had a dream

Edit : comma added

spot on... it's pathetic to see a PM cling onto power when he has NO MANDATE - so his next brilliant move? send in more troops - his days are numbered and if there is yet another blood bath he better leave Thailand quick.

[KireB]

Thailand's human rights ranking was actually was much worse during Mark's watch. thaksin had a better ranking on the world human rights index.... you should be the one who get your facts right instead

Please read the summary of the following HUman Right Report and find out that the Abhisit Administration is being held responsible for many policies that occured under Thaksin's watch, such as: Tak Bai, War on Drugs!

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/H...4179ad111e4.htm

Edited April 19, 2010 by KireB

[Mario2008]

The weather is hot, the political climate is hot and the discussions are becomming hotter and hotter.

Once again a post deleted for flaming. Let's cool down and keep it civil. Discuss, but respect each other and don't trade personal insult.

[fugitiv07]

Abhisit is a nice guy at the wrong place at a wrong time.

Suthep and Anupong are pulling the strings. I just hope he mans up and fires them both (wishful thinking). Abhisit probably thinks deep inside that he is not a legitimate PM. Had he won elections and become PM I think he would have had a moral high ground to fire them both.

As for reds, Abhisit handled the situation better than we all thought. Heck if you keep pushing the army into a corner, prepare to get shot.

No court martials for army personnels involved in Tak Bai incident whatsoever as yet.

Same with the war on drugs.

Abhisit we are waiting.

As for the Yellows threatening to come out in 7 days. Let them come out and Abhisit should make it clear that any violence between the reds and yellows and he would not be responsible. Unfortunately people have to see more bloodshed to knock sense into them.

[junkofdavid2]

In order to counter the Reds' crippling move taking over Rajaprasong,

the PAD will... take over the airport.

[rixalex]

it's pathetic to see a PM cling onto power when he has NO MANDATE -

NO MANDATE?

How many times have we been through this? And yet you still come back with exactly the same lies and mistruths.

[warfie]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

You got that right !!! My Isan farm boys are some tough dudes ,, real men used to hardship and staying power. I would love to have video of some of these spoiled rotten , pampered elitist teenagers going against them.

Any of you yellows have some thoughts of a fight ? I suggest you stop by the rally site and quietly walk among the crowd and see what you are up against.

You will see many ex military types, ( as black shirt guards ) and some very tough fanatical, committed people some of whom are ready to die for this protest.

The elites had their way with the country and brought it to its knees last time and imposed their minority will on the country. Now its our time and our right to express our opinion,, and if they try to get in our way all I can say is:

LET THE MAYHEM BEGIN !!! Its payback time.

The weak and delicate urban elitists that you are talking about the working people in Bangkok that are also coming from different cities of Thailand. Just look at the traffic going back to Bangkok after Songkran and you will realise see what I mean.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that, let say the Reds "real man" wins the clashes and killed all the elitists (pessimistic ) as you were saying, what do you think will happen to Thailand then? Back to the years when only farming is main source of income of the country. Yes, just like 1960's...

kidding....

I hope that it will not come until that point. Let there be peace in Thailand, I hope that the current government will find better ways to unite the Thai people. But, key is with the Reds, if they just agree with the 6 months offer for general election then everything will stop and the country can move on.

Just my opinion, I would actually prefer dictatorship with prosperity and peace in the country than democracy with lawlessness, anarchy, destructions or even possible civil war happening every 6 months.

I often regret not coming to Thailand years earlier... I guess if these clowns (red, yellow, blue, pink, whatever) throw the country backward, I will get my wish (sort-of)

[warfie]

You got that right !!! My Isan farm boys are some tough dudes ,, real men used to hardship and staying power. I would love to have video of some of these spoiled rotten , pampered elitist teenagers going against them.

Any of you yellows have some thoughts of a fight ? I suggest you stop by the rally site and quietly walk among the crowd and see what you are up against.

You will see many ex military types, ( as black shirt guards ) and some very tough fanatical, committed people some of whom are ready to die for this protest.

The elites had their way with the country and brought it to its knees last time and imposed their minority will on the country. Now its our time and our right to express our opinion,, and if they try to get in our way all I can say is:

LET THE MAYHEM BEGIN !!! Its payback time.

Dam_n, I'm ashamed to be of the same type of vertebrae than you.

I feel soiled by sharing oxygen with him....

[warfie]

If there is a physical clash, the Reds will win, provided the army stays out of it. the Reds are tough folks. The men are real men, not delicate city dwellers that are not used to physical hardship. The Reds are not the ones that will need to put on the whitening cremes, scents and body lotions before the go into battle. I'm sure if there is some girl on girl 'rassling action the redshirts will win.

You got that right !!! My Isan farm boys are some tough dudes ,, real men used to hardship and staying power. I would love to have video of some of these spoiled rotten , pampered elitist teenagers going against them.

Any of you yellows have some thoughts of a fight ? I suggest you stop by the rally site and quietly walk among the crowd and see what you are up against.

You will see many ex military types, ( as black shirt guards ) and some very tough fanatical, committed people some of whom are ready to die for this protest.

The elites had their way with the country and brought it to its knees last time and imposed their minority will on the country. Now its our time and our right to express our opinion,, and if they try to get in our way all I can say is:

LET THE MAYHEM BEGIN !!! Its payback time.

The weak and delicate urban elitists that you are talking about the working people in Bangkok that are also coming from different cities of Thailand. Just look at the traffic going back to Bangkok after Songkran and you will realise see what I mean.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that, let say the Reds "real man" wins the clashes and killed all the elitists (pessimistic ) as you were saying, what do you think will happen to Thailand then? Back to the years when only farming is main source of income of the country. Yes, just like 1960's...

kidding....

I hope that it will not come until that point. Let there be peace in Thailand, I hope that the current government will find better ways to unite the Thai people. But, key is with the Reds, if they just agree with the 6 months offer for general election then everything will stop and the country can move on.

Just my opinion, I would actually prefer dictatorship with prosperity and peace in the country than democracy with lawlessness, anarchy, destructions or even possible civil war happening every 6 months.

I often regret not coming to Thailand years earlier... I guess if these clowns (red, yellow, blue, pink, whatever) throw the country backward, I will get my wish (sort-of)

[ozzieman05]

The wife's brothers have just arrived in Bangkok to join the Red protest.

Believe me, you would not fuk with these guys.

I really hope there are no yellow/red clashes. It would get very nasty very quickly.

Must agree with this posting

Last night I met them at Saparn Krauy

One ask a very young Lady Tao Lai

When she answered

Both went Tok Ji

Yep real Men ( but only back on the farm)

[ozzieman05]

There's a great big banner put up by the reds saying 'We just want democracy'. Let's see then, shall we.

Will they tolerate the right of others to voice their opinion when the yellow shirts come out? Or will they try to intimidate all those who disagree with them? The evidence over the last month or so would point to the latter and, if so it turns out, will give the lie to the whole dam_n sham behind Thaksin's private war.

There's a great big banner put up by the reds saying 'We just want democracy'. Let's see then, shall we.

I love the fact that they spell this in English.How many people on the ground can read this? This one was especially done for the international audience. Give Taksin some credit He is way better at marketing than His opponents.

Made me wonder so at a big gathering for Songkran I asked all the Thai wife's friend

what is democracy ?

Only 2 out of 10 new its meaning

"means when you do what your told"

And these are all well spoken English Thais

Wife said the worr is never spoken so no need to know

Pass the Som Tam please

[WinnieTheKhwai]

it's pathetic to see a PM cling onto power when he has NO MANDATE -

NO MANDATE?

How many times have we been through this? And yet you still come back with exactly the same lies and mistruths.

Ehm.. Not Same.. Being legitimate is not the same as having your own mandate.. IMHO Abhsit's government is the former, but quite obviously doesn't have the latter. When you depend on bribing people from the opposition into your own coalition then quite clearly you donm't have a legitimate mandate directly from teh electorate. I thought we've been through that too..

[warfie]

Amazing how some people not only advocate but seem to relish in violence and talking up the violent abilities of one group versus another. I wonder if these people are actually in Thailand or why they are bitter enough to want to see more people get hurt which of course wont involve them from behind the keyboard and beer glasses and their fantasy existances.

Yep, it's actually very depressing.

What'a almost as depressing is the attempt to paint us a haters of the rural population.

Yep, particularly since it's done by those who by their very use of language ("farm boys") points to a contempt for those they pretend to champion.

why do some people find it so hard to recognise facetious comments...

[ozzieman05]

I thought gatherings of more than 5 people are banned anyway, aren't they?

Double standards eek laewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

They are supposed to be, but as with the "pink shirts" that law does not apply if you support the government. This was trap waiting for Abhisit to fall into, which he duly did. One more chip out of the government's credibility. The red shirts' propaganda machine will get maximum mileage out of it. I wonder how many other laws do not apply if you support the government?

Obviously, the reds are still gathering way more than 5 ppl and no sign of disperse. My friend who lived in Ratchadamri area was stopped by a group of redshirts three days ago while she was about to turn into her soi off Ratchadamri road. They tried to open the car doors, so she asked them what they wanted, and they said they wanted her to drive them to Ratchaprasong. She told them she wasn't going there coz she lived on this soi, and so she drove off quickly. Another friend of mine was also stopped by a group of redshirts and they asked him for 200 baht. These people are thugs who wear redshirts coz they know the police can't do anything to them so they act as they rule Thailand. So all please be careful. They might not do it to Farang but I just wanna share the stories.

No way! You see, a lady in pink did the same thing to me yesterday. She just pulled my car door open and held a gun to my head and told me to get her to the Victory Monument before 4pm or she'll pull the trigger. She acted like a complete thug. Sadly, I don't have a witness and neither do I have a credible source for my little story, but neither do you. So it doesn't really mean a lot, does it?

Please excuse my friend

He was a little drunk at the time

The pink lady was actually some one he picked up in Soi Cowboy

lookda little like a lady boy to me

she has a unit in 527 appartments

And that was not a gun he was holding, he was standing beside the car door and you where sitting

Sorry in advance, I just could not resist the reply

[anotherpeter]

it's pathetic to see a PM cling onto power when he has NO MANDATE -

NO MANDATE?

How many times have we been through this? And yet you still come back with exactly the same lies and mistruths.

Ehm.. Not Same.. Being legitimate is not the same as having your own mandate.. IMHO Abhsit's government is the former, but quite obviously doesn't have the latter. When you depend on bribing people from the opposition into your own coalition then quite clearly you donm't have a legitimate mandate directly from teh electorate. I thought we've been through that too..

So the PPP didn't have a mandate to do anything either. They went with that and did nothing.

[ozzieman05]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

A great idea, but not workable when you are dealing with a mob that wands confrontation

They hope the government will do it, but thy will not they will force them to

Remeber back 1 week ago when they all complained the PM could not control Thailand and was powerless to move against them

Then when they did

They are murders

ever heard the saying

Dammed if you d and dammed if you don't

The Red shirt Leaders want blood split

[ozzieman05]

Any of you 'students of human nature' care to venture a guess as to how long can the leaders on stage keep this crown whipped up or even enthused if the govt. doesn't do any more than containment? If left alone, would the Reds eventually give up and go home or the group that is left are the people in this society who are willing to risk life and limb to bring down this govt.?

A great idea, but not workable when you are dealing with a mob that wants confrontation

They hope the government will do it, but if they will not they will force them to

Remember back 1 week ago when they all complained the PM could not control Thailand and was powerless to move against them

Then when they did

They are murders

ever heard the saying

Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't

The Red shirt Leaders want blood split