Top Army, Navy Units Readied For Red-Shirts Dispersal

[LevelHead]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

[jdinasia]

You appear to be so Yellow you would put a banana to shame, however, that is your choice to ignore the worlds media reports and simply go with the official Thai propaganda from the yellow media, in full knowledge at the present level of censorship of the media which is far worse than anything in recent Thai history, worse even than the allegations thrown at Thaksin.

The censorship now is disgusting. The propaganda is disgusting.

Again not an honest argument .... just ad hominem attacks.

Thaksin stifled all press that spoke out against him usually through the use of lawsuits but also through financial attacks by threatening to pull advertising from companies that he owned (but was legally NOT supposed to) and through shutting down smaller outlets.

There is plenty of criticism of the current government that is out there in the press that is allowed to go on, including your lies and hyperbole on this site. For example your claim that Abhisit is "universally hated".

[rabo]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

You are now wrong for all to see. Thais are not people of hate, it is not in their culture nor in their hearts, never has been and never will be. Your " "knowledge" is weak and your views disolve like vapor in the wind.

[dhrobertson]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

It's over for you red apologists.

Can't you see that?

You're a busted flush

Just go home now. Please.

[gymboy33]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

abhisits popularity is skyrockets????

any eveidence??

or is this just av propaganda sent out throu the av media and trickled down thru their lackeys???

[daboyz1]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

You're right! The reds are heros. They attack a hospital. Next it will be a day care center. Get real! These giys care nothing about Thailand, They serve their criminal master in Dubai or wherever he is today.

[tigerbalm]

Or just dissolve parliament.

Which would solve exactly NOTHING... so any other bright ideas?

Umm Errr Have an Election

So the next time 100,000 people come out calling for an election, the next government will call an election too, won't they. And then after that ............

So you woulkd rule out dissolving parliament and having Elections as a bad idear for the country?

[whybother]

So the next time 100,000 people come out calling for an election, the next government will call an election too, won't they. And then after that ............

So you woulkd rule out dissolving parliament and having Elections as a bad idear for the country?

Dissolving parliament just because a few thousand people are protesting is a bad idea for the country.

Abhisit has offered elections because the he wants to avoid more blood on the streets. Lets see if the reds want blood on the streets or not.

[animatic]

It's clear and obvious Thais can't do it on their own, they've demonstrated and proved time and again they're incapable - there just isn't any Aung San Suu Ky in Thailand nor is it possible. …. Abhisit's strength is his Brit experience and the fact he's Thai........so it's clear that the kind of foreign UK/USA experience each had the benefit of in their youth is a prerequisite to creating a Thai who is necessary different than the inevitable and eternal incestuously produced crowd of tribal politicians corporate leaders and leaders of other Thai tribal traditional institutions and society. …..

From what I can understand, you are saying that no born and bred Thai is capable of running their own country, "nor is it possible". Bizarre.

'Publicus' As for Churchill and Abhisit - yes, Churchill and Abhisit - when Chamberlain quit the king called on Churchill to form a wartime coalition government.....no snap election was called to get a mandate for a new government in the eventful face of a new and yet another European war (a retread of the war of a generation earlier). Abhisit was chosen by the parliament and accepted by higher authority in much the same manner, but in Abhisit's instance at the early stages of the clear suggestions of a looming incipient civil war, which brings us to where we are in the present…..

Another case of your conclusion being totally unsupported by any genuine facts, except your own, and being the reverse of reality. There was no similarity in the way Churchill and Abhisit became Prime Ministers whatsoever. Churchill was chosen by his predecessor (Chamberlain), and nominated to the King jointly by Chamberlain, Lord Halifax (his only real rival for the post) and David Margesson, the Government Chief Whip, and he had the full and declared support of all the major political parties. Abhisit was certainly not chosen by his predecessor, nor did he (or does he) have the support of all the major parties in government. There is simply no connection between the two.

It would seem to anyone who is in fact impartial is that this government,far from denying the rights of the poor is implementing transparency laws and far more defining long term benefits that any appointed Thaksin government or clone would ever implement.

Those same people that are now behind the red shirts financially ,are aware that as transparency laws are being implemented by this government,their ability to rob the people they are supposedly representing will be diminished.

Your impartiality, or possibly your knowledge, does not appear to include the various proven cases of corruption that have already taken place under Abhisit's government (school milk, rotten fish, non-existent fertiliser, bribes for ambulances, etc, etc) which show his government to be little better than most and considerably worse than others in this regard.

Glad Pub inspired you. I know him personally, and he is that kind of guy in real life.

That explains a great deal.

And your cherry picking explains a good deal also.

Context is everything.

18 coups in 80 years kinda makes his point.

But it is mostly about the lack of a potential Suu Kyi on the scene.

[animatic]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

You are now wrong for all to see. Thais are not people of hate, it is not in their culture nor in their hearts, never has been and never will be. Your " "knowledge" is weak and your views disolve like vapor in the wind.

Look how devilishly hard the Red Leaders hard and unceasingly to work to create hatred in their ranks to cause actual fighting.

Says it all.

[animatic]

So the next time 100,000 people come out calling for an election, the next government will call an election too, won't they. And then after that ............

So you woulkd rule out dissolving parliament and having Elections as a bad idear for the country?

Dissolving parliament just because a few thousand people are protesting is a bad idea for the country.

Abhisit has offered elections because the he wants to avoid more blood on the streets. Lets see if the reds want blood on the streets or not.

And now, sadly, more blood in the streets will be a standard tactic to change power and governance.

But this of course also means ideologues like Jatuporn and Weng will be needed to instill hatred

and ginned-up class war struggle, to create enough mindless blinded fervor for average people to put themselves in danger.

And so the agenda will continue to be driven by the extremes of political thought, because those are the only reference points

that can create the needed hateful fervor.

Stomping out the Reds rally without an election compromise, would send a message to both extremes

that their points of view will be listened to ONLY if NOT accompanied by street violence.

Other wise it will repeat and repeat. In the long run more dead and maimed,

because it is driven by a mobious loop of hate mongering.

[lungmi]

So the next time 100,000 people come out calling for an election, the next government will call an election too, won't they. And then after that ............

So you woulkd rule out dissolving parliament and having Elections as a bad idear for the country?

Dissolving parliament just because a few thousand people are protesting is a bad idea for the country.

Abhisit has offered elections because the he wants to avoid more blood on the streets. Lets see if the reds want blood on the streets or not.

And now, sadly, more blood in the streets will be a standard tactic to change power and governance.

But this of course also means ideologues like Jatuporn and Weng will be needed to instill hatred

and ginned-up class war struggle, to create enough mindless blinded fervor for average people to put themselves in danger.

And so the agenda will continue to be driven by the extremes of political thought, because those are the only reference points

that can create the needed hateful fervor.

Stomping out the Reds rally without an election compromise, would send a message to both extremes

that their points of view will be listened to ONLY if NOT accompanied by street violence.

Other wise it will repeat and repeat. In the long run more dead and maimed,

because it is driven by a mobious loop of hate mongering.

mongering hate comes back with more hate, spreading metta comes back with more metta. A natural law.

[cheguevara]

BACK TO THE INITIAL TOPIC, PLEASE!

2010-04-19 07:04:03

Top army, navy units readied for dispersal

By The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Elite forces from all three branches of the armed forces and police are being mobilised to carry out operations to remove red-shirt demonstrators from the Rajprasong intersection in Bangkok.

Hard to believe this was almost 1 month ago. Where are these "elite forces" now?

[ChiangMaiFun]

BACK TO THE INITIAL TOPIC, PLEASE!

2010-04-19 07:04:03

Top army, navy units readied for dispersal

By The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Elite forces from all three branches of the armed forces and police are being mobilised to carry out operations to remove red-shirt demonstrators from the Rajprasong intersection in Bangkok.

Hard to believe this was almost 1 month ago. Where are these "elite forces" now?

Funny I was thinking exactly that before I read your post - I guess they are getting 'ready' before they are 'ready' - in fact knowing Thailand they will be 'ready' when it's all over (or they are sure it's all over) - and then they'll say - but we are 'ready'!

Edited May 10, 2010 by ChiangMaiFun

[brahmburgers]

Hard to believe this was almost 1 month ago. Where are these "elite forces" now?

Whether forces are deemed 'elite' or not, it's likely their commanders were promoted based on money paid (to higher ups) and who they know - rather than promotions based on skills, wisdom, and knowledge of battlefield tactics. Krue Se and Tat Bai were two military screw ups that happened on Thaksin's watch. Yes the same Thaksin who was a Police officer and who boasted being a CEO PM who was always 100% in charge. Those bloody & fatal incidents in southern Thailand were the results (directly or indirectly) of the profoundly inept top brass at the scene. Needless to say, there was no real repercussions for Thaksin or the officers with the blood of 100 young Muslim men on their hands. Investigations/penalties stop in Thailand when there's a chance that someone important might lose face.

[ozzieman05]

Do you get the feeling that since the pro-Yellow leaders of the army who attacked on April 10th got targeted and shot, that in fact now the pro-Yellow side of the Army cannot muster much support and is very weak ?

I mean, according to the headline they were getting the crack forces ready, what happened ? Did it come to total perhaps 1000 who were Yellow enough to do the work of the puppet masters ?

When the Yellow's protested the police were used against them and the Yellow army sides helped the PAD and gave them training.

Its no surprise now that everyone else ignores the Reds, and the Yellow army side, which appears to be very small now, is unable to do anything.

Most strange how weak Team Yellow is appearing now.

Perhaps all they have is money now, their influence has been severely weakened due to their rampant corruption and favoritism since 2006 ?

Perhaps even more strange, is they are winning. Abhisit's popularity is skyrocketing even among the silent red majority, and the entire red leadership is in total disarray. Just now posted: Seh Daeng is arguing with other leaders about moving barricades.

Abhisit will go down in Thai history as the first great Thai PM, his peaceful ways will make him world famous. He already has most of the Thai female vote becasue he is so cute.

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th. He has nothing to lose now as he already appears to have lost his reputation totally.

Red leadership, sorry, from what I see on UDDThailand TV via the internet there are no problems.

Perhaps you read YELLOW PROPAGANDA media which pumps out all sorts of strange stories and accusations, anything anti-red they can make up it seems.

Well I think you are so far from the truth your in limbo land

My Thai wife and all her friend think the red shirts are a pack of thugs

They all say the PM could be better, but he is the best availabale at this time

What you fail to understand is go to the universities in Issan

They are packed with young minds getting an education

These are the leader of tomorrow

Red shots exist in the ignorance of the old ways in the villages

But there is complete new generation of Thai now coming into the work force

Thais from the north that have an education

This is what the red shirt leaders really want to stop

Educated Thais have learnt to think for themselves

What the red shirts are protesting about has been happening now for a while

Rome was not built in a day

neither will Northern Thailand

[ozzieman05]

BACK TO THE INITIAL TOPIC, PLEASE!

2010-04-19 07:04:03

Top army, navy units readied for dispersal

By The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Elite forces from all three branches of the armed forces and police are being mobilised to carry out operations to remove red-shirt demonstrators from the Rajprasong intersection in Bangkok.

Hard to believe this was almost 1 month ago. Where are these "elite forces" now?

Top army, navy units having a holiday by the seaside awaiting being called for dispersal of protestors

[brahmburgers]

Abhisit is universally hated amongst the majority of Thai people, for being behind the killing of many innocents on April 10th.

The adjective 'universally' means 'by everyone'. The only people who hate Abhisit are a few Thais, certainly among the Shinawat family (is LevelHead in that group?), who see Abhisit as the main impedement to getting Thaksin back in power and/or get back T's ill-gotten gains. ....oh and those in the employ of Thaksin, which is all the Red leaders and most of the few thousand Red 'supporters' who get paid to attend rallies. Actually, the paid protesters probably don't really hate Abhisit - rather they like the idea of getting triple their normal wage for sitting around in Bangkok clanging little clapping contraptions. Sure beats doing the real work of farming in the hot sun/deep mud.

And that's re; the ones who actually get paid. Most probably will not. 'Breaking promises' is part of the job description of being a Red leader.

It's obvious now the Red leaders are arguing inconsolably, most likely because the baddest of the bunch are facing detention when the downtown party closes down. They're understandably spooked. Perhaps, before the Reds huker off, security forces will get the nod to do their job, and the hammer will come down. When that happens, Abhisit will not be compelled to call elections before Dec. 2011.

Dump garbage for a time - pay a big whopping fine.

No amnesty, no bail - break the law, go to jail.

Edited May 10, 2010 by brahmburgers

[brahmburgers]

Now we hear that razor wire has been added to the barricades. Perhaps that's old news for some, but it's a serious escalation.

It started getting serious with piling tires. Then sharpened bamboo poles were added. Then fuel was purportedly poured on the tires. Now razor wire added. What's next, remote controlled mines? .....poison gas emitters?

I can't understand how Bangkok police have been so extremely inept for the past 2 months. I understand that some are so-called watermelons or tomatoes. If so, then weed them out and send them to a guarded island far away with just water and rice.

So, we have other forces, purportedly some military who aren't skittish about doing what they're trained to do. That would be a welcome sight.

Here's what needs to be done right away: Two things:

1. Start immediately dismantling the barricades. Have armored trucks on hand. Front row workers wearing hard hats and safety vests (perhaps former Red protesters who had a change of mind, and/or don't mind working for decent wages). Right behind them have sidearm carrying troops assisting. The third line are soldiers (higher up) pointing rifles. Anyone who makes a motion to get in the way of the clean up is shot. POW! Also applies to anyone wielding any sort of weapon, even a stone or piece of bamboo. After the first 5 or 6 protesters are shot, then resistance will abate.

2. Completely cordon off the entire protest area. Don't allow anyone in or out without documentation and frisking. Anyone without express legal (non protesting) business will not be allowed in. Anyone (coming or going) who matches description of wanted person and/or carrying weapons or ammo in or out will be arrested and processed for detention on the spot, with no bail. ....same goes for ANYONE bringing in tires, bamboo, razor wire, fuel in containers, or any other potentially hazardous material/substance.

Abhisit and his generals need to start looking at this as a combat zone, rather than dealing with it as a rowdy rock concert crowd. In case they haven't noticed, combat weapons have been used (by Reds) and will continue to be used. This isn't a football match with some Brit rowdies, this is as close to a combat zone that Bangkok has had in modern times. Authorities need to wake up to reality and DEAL WITH IT DYNAMICALLY!

Edited May 10, 2010 by brahmburgers

[Robby nz]

See leavelhead is back with his, or her, bleat of the yellows, and in big letters even.

I can tell you, although you wont believe it, that not everyone who sees the red leaders and their black shirt buddies as the murderous rabble that they are is aligned to the yellows,

In fact now the majority of ordinary people out here are sick and tired of this red occupation and the murderous acts that go with it. The people just want the reds gone so they can get on with their lives.

But its not going to happen yet, the reds have said today that they wont leave, probably because the leaders think their sorry asses are safer behind their barricades than out in the real world and they are probably right for only jail awaits them when they are winkled out.

[siampolee]

ozzieman05

Well I think you are so far from the truth your in limbo land

My Thai wife and all her friend think the red shirts are a pack of thugs

They all say the PM could be better, but he is the best availabale at this time

What you fail to understand is go to the universities in Issan

They are packed with young minds getting an education

These are the leader of tomorrow

Red shots exist in the ignorance of the old ways in the villages

But there is complete new generation of Thai now coming into the work force

Thais from the north that have an education

This is what the red shirt leaders really want to stop

Educated Thais have learnt to think for themselves

What the red shirts are protesting about has been happening now for a while

Rome was not built in a day

neither will Northern Thailand

Your finger is on the pulse, same scenario in our Surin neck of the woods

[Hawk]

It seems that more troops were being flown down to Bangkok today.

Perhaps they are all on R & R.

[chantorn]

It seems that more troops were being flown down to Bangkok today.

Perhaps they are all on R & R.

"Flown".

I suppose they no longer bus them.

[redparrot]

Original Post Title: Top Army, Navy Units Readied For Red-Shirts Dispersal

Original Post Date: 2010-04-19 07:04:03

Current Date: 2010-05-12

3 weeks ago, the "elite forces" are supposed to have started preparing themselves for red shirts dispersal.

The big question is ....*drums* Are they ready yet?

[JohnLeech]

...

I can't understand how Bangkok police have been so extremely inept for the past 2 months. ...

Here's what needs to be done right away: Two things:

1. Start immediately dismantling the barricades. .............

2. Completely cordon off the entire protest area. .................

You obviousy don't understand very much. Not only would your "solution" play directly into the reds' hands - mass casualties, pictures of soldiers mowing down unarmed civilians/women and children with stones being broadcast around the world, etc, - but you obviously have no idea how truckloads of tires, bamboo, etc, were brought in. Being inept does not mean being blind - unless they want to be.

[hextac]

So the next time 100,000 people come out calling for an election, the next government will call an election too, won't they. And then after that ............

So you woulkd rule out dissolving parliament and having Elections as a bad idear for the country?

Dissolving parliament just because a few thousand people are protesting is a bad idea for the country.

Abhisit has offered elections because the he wants to avoid more blood on the streets. Lets see if the reds want blood on the streets or not.

And now, sadly, more blood in the streets will be a standard tactic to change power and governance.

But this of course also means ideologues like Jatuporn and Weng will be needed to instill hatred

and ginned-up class war struggle, to create enough mindless blinded fervor for average people to put themselves in danger.

And so the agenda will continue to be driven by the extremes of political thought, because those are the only reference points

that can create the needed hateful fervor.

Stomping out the Reds rally without an election compromise, would send a message to both extremes

that their points of view will be listened to ONLY if NOT accompanied by street violence.

Other wise it will repeat and repeat. In the long run more dead and maimed,

because it is driven by a mobious loop of hate mongering.

Is the möbius loop analogy because there is truly only one side to the whole "situation"?