Thai Forces Fire Warning Shots In Standoff With Red Shirts

[lannarebirth]

just looked at WWW.REDSHIRTSTHAILAND.COM check it out guy the masked bloke with the pistol in his hand ( according to them) i s attending a birthday party for arismans son look at it yourself is this a spoof site or real

Nice piece of work.

[TAWP]

Porntip: Troop killed in Don Muang clash not killed by friendly fire

Doctor Porntip Rojanasunan, the director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, announced Tuesday that a troop killed during a clash between troops and protesters on April 28 was not killed by a friendly fire.

Porntip said the ballistic study found that Pvt Narongrit Sala was shot by someone from a building under construction near a petrol station.

The shooter was not on the Don Muang Tollway, Porntip said.

The petrol station was the are where a foreign media captured a man in black with gun.

I expect an apology from some posters too...

[animatic]

---- TOP STORY ---- TOP STORY ---- NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH ---

Contrary to widespread reports by the ultra right wing pro-american Al Jezzera, The Heroic Thai People's Library Army - AKA - THE UDD (Ultimately Dumb and Dumber) - are clearly not armed in anyway shape or form.

"Apart from most of them (THE UDD) having a right and left arm attached to their shoulders, they carry no firearms of any kind. I am aware of the video being spread around the internet, but that is nothing but Democrat propaganda. The footage is from a children's birthday held by Mrs. Arisman earlier this year" - Mr. Arisman stated earlier today.

JUDGE FOR YOURSELF - WWW.REDSHIRTSTHAILAND.COM

I believe if you want to advertise on tv the owners can put together a nice package of banner ads and other goodies.

Speaking of Arisman, and since it appears that you have his ear, do you mind asking him to quit wearing our beloved man utd shirts please, can I suggest a scouser home kit as it just seems much more natural.

Thanks in advance.

Nice parody.

Bunch of wobbling Weebles™

Always appreciated that they are

'Fighting the Democrats to win Democracy from them..."

You can't make up this stuff.

[animatic]

Porntip: Troop killed in Don Muang clash not killed by friendly fire

Doctor Porntip Rojanasunan, the director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, announced Tuesday that a troop killed during a clash between troops and protesters on April 28 was not killed by a friendly fire.

Porntip said the ballistic study found that Pvt Narongrit Sala was shot by someone from a building under construction near a petrol station.

The shooter was not on the Don Muang Tollway, Porntip said.

The petrol station was the are where a foreign media captured a man in black with gun.

I expect an apology from some posters too...

Not likely contrition is something that requires logical thinking and... well contrition.

Friendly fire never seemed likely, just fog of war reporting, and whirlwind spinmeistering.

And most interesting that REPORTERS captured an armed Black Shirt near that building.

Kudos to Dr. Porntip.

Edited May 4, 2010 by animatic

[TAWP]

Listen to the silence.

[pornsasi]

Porntip: Troop killed in Don Muang clash not killed by friendly fire

Doctor Porntip Rojanasunan, the director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, announced Tuesday that a troop killed during a clash between troops and protesters on April 28 was not killed by a friendly fire.

Porntip said the ballistic study found that Pvt Narongrit Sala was shot by someone from a building under construction near a petrol station.

The shooter was not on the Don Muang Tollway, Porntip said.

The petrol station was the are where a foreign media captured a man in black with gun.

I expect an apology from some posters too...

A foreign media captured a man in black with gun ? Wow that media must have threatened him with his Nikon .

Did the foreign media dare to ask who that man in black is working for ?

[Deeral]

"A foreign media " - can someone tell me what they mean by this?

[pornsasi]

"A foreign media " - can someone tell me what they mean by this?

Could be misspelled .

He meant a foreign MEDIUM

[jdinasia]

I believe you will find that they are talking about AlJazeera getting an armed terrorist on film.

[Deeral]

quite frankly being captured by reporters seems just about as likely as friendly fire - and both smack of spin.

[TAWP]

AlJazeera caught armed black clad man during the clashes in question etc.

[Deeral]

Did they capture him or capture him on film?

where is this story??

[TAWP]

Jesus christ for red shirts with short memory...

[Deeral]

Is that meant to be an answer?

[TAWP]

It means: Search the forum, we cannot always be required to hold your hand. Maybe someone with patience for you will help you out.

[katana]

AP report

Along Vibhavadi-Rangsit road, riot squads fired into the air to push protesters back but several tried to remove the razor wire, prompting troops to level their rifles and shoot directly at protesters who fled into oncoming traffic. Police huddled behind riot shields, while soldiers wielding rifles took up positions behind concrete pylons. A heavy afternoon downpour halted the fighting, at least temporarily.

The confrontation was chaotic and at one point security forces fired on a group of troops riding toward them on motorbikes in what appeared to be an accident, although some members of the security forces have been accused of siding with the protesters. At least four motorbikes crashed and one soldier was carried away on a stretcher, bleeding profusely from the head. Several others from the group threw their hands in the air.

At least 10 protesters wounded in the clash were treated for minor injuries at the nearby Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, the hospital said.

Army spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said that troops were told to use rubber bullets but had authority to use live ammunition for self-defence.

"At this point, there is too much chaos for anybody to constantly report what kind bullets they are using," he said.

"We brought force out to stop them. At this point, society finds it unacceptable to have protesters traveling in a motorcade like this," Sansern said. "We try our best to prevent losses."

Seems to be a news video of the incident here (the top video entitled ช่อง 9 ดูชัดๆ กระสุนปริศนา...).

At 19s you can see a puff of smoke on the right-hand side, under the news logo, and immediately the pillion soldier on the left-hand side, by the white van falls to the left.

[mazeltov]

Porntip: Troop killed in Don Muang clash not killed by friendly fire

Doctor Porntip Rojanasunan, the director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, announced Tuesday that a troop killed during a clash between troops and protesters on April 28 was not killed by a friendly fire.

Porntip said the ballistic study found that Pvt Narongrit Sala was shot by someone from a building under construction near a petrol station.

The shooter was not on the Don Muang Tollway, Porntip said.

The petrol station was the are where a foreign media captured a man in black with gun.

I expect an apology from some posters too...

Not likely contrition is something that requires logical thinking and... well contrition.

Friendly fire never seemed likely, just fog of war reporting, and whirlwind spinmeistering.

And most interesting that REPORTERS captured an armed Black Shirt near that building.

Kudos to Dr. Porntip.

In this video you can see some armed men at the petrol station, start at 1:46.

Maybe some of the experts can have a look at it and tell us if that are weapons that can fire high velocity rounds.

skynews — April 28, 2010

[mazeltov]

I believe you will find that they are talking about AlJazeera getting an armed terrorist on film.

Jesus christ for red shirts with short memory...

From that foreign media, AlJazeera, came already a statement that their film is used a propaganda tool and for misinformation:

blogs.aljazeera.net/asia:

The shot that had a huge impact

By Wayne Hay in Asia on May 1st, 2010

It's amazing how one shot of a man carrying a gun can have a huge impact.

While we were filming the battle between Thailand's anti-government protestors and the security forces on April 28, we saw several red shirts sneaking forward through cars, approaching the line of police and soldiers.

One of them was carrying a pistol. Cameraman Ben Emery captured the image, and of course we used it in our story that day.

The shot caught the attention of a lot of people in Thailand because it appeared to provide evidence that some of the red shirts are indeed brandishing guns.

The image has been replayed on Thai television over and over again. It's been used in newspapers and on websites, and now by the warring factions.

The red shirt leaders are talking about it on stage. Their political arm, the Peau Thai Party, used it as an exhibit at a media conference. They both claim the government and Thai media have been using that shot in isolation to attack them, instead of telling the whole story about what happened that day.

All this debate has detracted from the facts.

Brandishing pistol

The man in the shot was clearly carrying a gun. He was wearing a red bandana and was creeping towards the police and military when he pulled the pistol from his bag.

He was right in front of us and the three people in our team all saw it with our own eyes. We only saw one man carrying a gun. But he was slinking around the place with several other men. One of whom was dressed completely in black, which immediately raised my suspicion after so many mysterious men in black were spotted during the April 10 violence.

Could they be government/military plants, as the red shirts suggest? Maybe. They could also be from a third party trying to stir up trouble. Or they could simply be red shirts.

The leaders continue to deny their people are carrying guns, but all we can do on the ground in a fast moving situation like that is report what we see. And we saw a man in a red bandana brandishing a pistol.

The second, and more important talking point of that day, was the unrelated killing of a soldier, which may have been a tragic case of death by friendly fire. The government has remained very quiet about the events that led to his death.

Misinformation

It released a statement saying investigations are continuing but it also happened to mention our pictures of the man carrying the gun.

In this order the statement mentioned: the possibility that "terrorists" may have infiltrated the protestors, the direction the bullet came from, the Al Jazeera footage showing "a terrorist" holding a weapon, and then lastly the autopsy results of the dead soldier.

Despite the best efforts of various organisations who are trying to twist the story, we did not in any way suggest that the man we filmed with the gun had anything to do with the death of the soldier. We filmed him about an hour before we saw the body of the soldier being carried out.

This ongoing crisis has been dominated by misinformation, rumours and speculation. The government and the security forces lost another one of their own. A clear explanation should have been forthcoming by now.

Pure luck

Compare this situation to the grenade blasts in Silom on April 22. Immediately after the explosions, the military broadcast over its loud speakers on the streets, that this was a red shirt attack. That same night, the deputy prime minister made a statement saying the grenades were launched from inside the red shirt protest area. Where was the investigation?

From what I witnessed during the gun battle on April 28, it's pure luck that more people weren't killed or injured. The police and soldiers had more than enough warning that the red shirts were coming down the highway. They were travelling en masse and were easily identifiable. They should have diverted all the other traffic.

Instead, innocent people were sandwiched between the riot police and the red shirts. Many remained in their cars, expecting to be let through the road block eventually. But when the security forces started firing their guns, people were trapped, lying down in their vehicles, trying to avoid being shot while others ran to the relative safety of the side of the road.

This should never have been allowed to happen. They could easily have cleared those people out before the reds arrived.

Twenty seven people have now been killed. Everything possible should be done to ensure that toll doesn't rise.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/asia/2010/05/01...had-huge-impact

I expect an apology from some posters too...

Listen to the silence.

[TAWP]

mazeltow: You are the one doing propaganda when you post their reply regarding that the man in the picture is carrying a pistol 1h before the event and the fact that my statement above is in regards to red fans here claiming without a doubt that the shots came from the military infront of the soldiers on the bikes as they were traveling back.

Your misuse of my quote out of context is typical propaganda twist.

Nicely played.

[mazeltov]

mazeltow: You are the one doing propaganda when you post their reply regarding that the man in the picture is carrying a pistol 1h before the event and the fact that my statement above is in regards to red fans here claiming without a doubt that the shots came from the military infront of the soldiers on the bikes as they were traveling back.

Your misuse of my quote out of context is typical propaganda twist.

Nicely played.

The other comments/replies that followed your entry address the 'a foreign media captured a man in black with gun.' part.

Maybe you should wrote more than an oneliner comment and explain beforehand what you really wanted to say and don't cry fool afterwards if you don't like the reply.

I twisted nothing. You should have some patience and spend some time for your audience if you wanna avoid misunderstandings.

[TAWP]

The question was if black men had been captured, again, on film with weapons and that is so. No-one said THAT guy shot the police, we cannot know that. It was in regards to them being peaceful and unarmed that line was added to the news-report most likely, i.e. an indication that more than just the one being caught on tape was armed.

But you go ahead and misunderstand if it suits your agenda.