Thai Authorities To Sever Red-Shirts Supply Lines

[pornsasi]

I couldn't find any other references anywhere linking DPM Suthep and the PAD.

I think you have the Suthep's mixed up.

Well Suthep caused the PM Chuan Leekpai governement to fall before .

His next victim obviously will be PM Abhisit .

Its a hobby

Edited May 12, 2010 by pornsasi

[frodo]

By Stingray, this blog national security journalistEye witness report said soldiers and police that are sympathizers of the red shirt fired live bullets at soldiers loyal to Prayuth and Prem-who were shooting at the red shirt.

Eye witness said soldiers loyal to Prayuth went on top of many buildings near the Cow Corale and fired live bullets onto the red shirt crowd below-killing and wounding many.

Eye witness said many soldiers and police who were involved in controlling the crowd below, once saw the murdering spree-abandoned their duty and began firing at the soldiers on to of the buildings and hit many-and the killing spree stopped.

Eye witness said if not for these soldiers and police-there would have been hundreds killed.

April 11, 2010

http://<URL Automatically Removed>/2010/04/11/mobile-post-red-soldiers-and-police-combat-prayuth-soldiers-saving-hundreds-of-lives/

Just wondering who is the one with diarrhea ?

Sponsored in part by, Thaksinlive, ThaksinTweets, UDD and PT.

Total rubbish

doesnt go your way , does it ?

Anything posted or sponsored by Thaksin, UDD or PT is an obvious distortion of facts and an outright lie. Next you'll be telling us that UDD leaders are known and respected for stating facts and telling of the truth or that Thaksin is an ethical and honest person. Whatever floats your boat.

[pornsasi]

Anything posted or sponsored by Thaksin, UDD or PT is an obvious distortion of facts and an outright lie. Next you'll be telling us that UDD leaders are known and respected for stating facts and telling of the truth or that Thaksin is an ethical and honest person. Whatever floats your boat.

[jdinasia]

I am not pro-red , i disagree on many things some of their leader said

but am not an anti-red fanatic either .

And my point was that it is not as simple as you think it is

You are pro-red. Nearly everything you post is pro-red.

Facts are constantly put in front of you disproving your pro-red statements, and you don't believe any of it.

You don't post a counter argument, you just flat out dis-believe it and continue on with your pro-red statements.

You must be pro-yellow then hahaha

How can i be anti-Thaksin and pro red ?

Is that not the first prerequisite to be a red ? According to everybody here .

I just dont belong to the category of ppl that follows blindly the majority (in TV that is)

That makes us somewhat different

As for the rogue soldiers shooting from the roof at reds , even the PM himself

hinted at the possibility

Ummm the PM has never suggested that "rogue soldiers" that were not involved with Sae Daeng were shooting. Sae Daeng is Red.

As for your perfectly credible source --- and your justification that people from Isaan would not return fire or shoot at people from Isaan .... LOL I guess that means that NO soldier from Isaan is loyal to the government and would follow orders?Your credible* article just doesn't match up with reality. Such as how can you tell who someone is loyal to by looking. It discounts that the reds needed martyrs and that Sae Daeng is perfectly willing to provide them for the good of the cause. That red leaders have called for martyrs from the stage etc ...

Please share with me who this random blogger you quote is in real life --- and where his source that is not matched by ANYONE that does not have the red agenda in their hearts agrees with. Since there are no CREDIBLE sources in that BLOG ..........

Simplistic and not realistic at all......

[pornsasi]

is anything happening yet?

That should happen soon (the blockade on the reds)

[whybother]

I couldn't find any other references anywhere linking DPM Suthep and the PAD.

I think you have the Suthep's mixed up.

Well Suthep caused the PM Chuan Leekpai governement to fall before .

His next victim obviously will be PM Abhisit .

Its a hobby

I don't care. He's probably corrupt. I never said he wasn't. I've never written anything protecting him. I've never written anything at all about him, except pointing out that it wasn't DPM Suthep that was with the PAD.

Get over it. Keep on posting about your "perfect" red leaders.

[sevenhills]

That wasn't Suthep. That was Kasit, the Foreign Minister.

Some infos about your idol

Suthep gave title deeds to 592 plots of land in Khao Sam Liam, Kamala and Nakkerd hills of Phuket province to 489 farmers. It was later found that members of 11 wealthy families in Phuket were among the recipients .Unrepentant, Suthep addressed a huge crowd in his Surat Thani constituency a month before a no-confidence debate and called on his supporters to march on Bangkok in their hundreds of thousands to defend his reputation

In 2009, Suthep was accused of violating the Constitution of Thailand by holding equity in a media firm that had received concessions from the government. Under the 1997 Constitution of Thailand, which Suthep had supported, Members of Parliament are banned from holding stakes in companies which have received government concessions

Thank you Pornsasi for pointing this out to some of the people here that have VERY short memories on this particular person. Before any real reconciliation can take place these Terrorist Yellow shirt leaders must be legally dealt with, because at the moment they are still on the loose with big smiles on their faces. What a joke.

[pornsasi]

Since there are no CREDIBLE sources in that BLOG ..........

... Nor here in TV

[Samuian]

I've noticed the Red Shirts stocking up on supplies for the last two days - they could survive many days of 'seige'. Our office is within the barricaded areas - so assuming we can get to work tomorrow we'll need to visit the Red Shirts for lunch!

Mirrors, zillions of Mirrors tuned on to the Rally site and it would be over in a matter of Hours...!

[bkkjames]

Since there are no CREDIBLE sources in that BLOG ..........

... Nor here in TV

For once Porn, I totally agree with you.

[pornsasi]

I don't care. He's probably corrupt. I never said he wasn't. I've never written anything protecting him. I've never written anything at all about him, except pointing out that it wasn't DPM Suthep that was with the PAD.

Get over it. Keep on posting about your "perfect" red leaders.

true . Sorry for that ...

[pornsasi]

For once Porn, I totally agree with you.

ty

[cougar52]

They would have been cleared weeks ago, in Beijing, New York, or London - and by non-lethal means.

Not when the terrorists have assault weapons they wouldn't. As soon as they started firing at the people applying non lethal force they'd be shot dead, as these red terrorists should be.

Everyone would like to see a non violent solution if it is possible. It is rapidly becoming impossible. At what point does simply killing them become acceptable?

In my opinion, it has already passed.

Any force necessary to remove them at this point is justified. There are no more innocents. And anyone who is found to have brought children into the terrorists zone, assuming they survive the dispersal, should be incarcerated and their children, all of them, turned over to protective services to be placed in a foster home.

These people are not responsible enough to be parents.

You are absolutely wrong, in Korat and Khon Kaen the Red Leaders told the protesters to bring bottles with them, not for water but for petro to make bombs. THEY INTENDED TO USE FORCE AND WEAPONS before they were enroute.

Has anyone here considered that if the security force in Thailand did not face protesters with AA gun , automatic rifles and APC

perhaps nobody would bring guns at protests ?

Political confrontation in Europe can turn violent but are rarely lethal .

Why ? because the mutually agreed understanding is that bringing firearms at protest by either side is beyond the pale .

Those who do are immediately arrested and face heavy jail sentences

[whybother]

That wasn't Suthep. That was Kasit, the Foreign Minister.

Some infos about your idol

Suthep gave title deeds to 592 plots of land in Khao Sam Liam, Kamala and Nakkerd hills of Phuket province to 489 farmers. It was later found that members of 11 wealthy families in Phuket were among the recipients .Unrepentant, Suthep addressed a huge crowd in his Surat Thani constituency a month before a no-confidence debate and called on his supporters to march on Bangkok in their hundreds of thousands to defend his reputation

In 2009, Suthep was accused of violating the Constitution of Thailand by holding equity in a media firm that had received concessions from the government. Under the 1997 Constitution of Thailand, which Suthep had supported, Members of Parliament are banned from holding stakes in companies which have received government concessions

Thank you Pornsasi for pointing this out to some of the people here that have VERY short memories on this particular person. Before any real reconciliation can take place these Terrorist Yellow shirt leaders must be legally dealt with, because at the moment they are still on the loose with big smiles on their faces. What a joke.

I agree. The courts should hurry up their processing of the yellow leaders charges.

But as I pointed out above, DPM Suthep isn't a yellow shirt. That's all I said about him.

[pornsasi]

Thank you Pornsasi for pointing this out to some of the people here that have VERY short memories on this particular person. Before any real reconciliation can take place these Terrorist Yellow shirt leaders must be legally dealt with, because at the moment they are still on the loose with big smiles on their faces. What a joke.

ty . Yes its a joke . How to prosecute violent ppl , if the violent yellows (some of em) are allowed to roam free

[OldgitTom]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn’t approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

[whybother]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn't approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

Yay for RED DEMOCRACY.

Freedom of speech ... not if you're talking against the reds.

Freedom of movement ... not if you're against the reds.

Freedom to vote ... only if you vote for the reds.

Yay for MOB DEMOCRACY. Get a few thousand people together and demand that the government step down.

It's funny how the reds are the majority, but they can only get 5,000 to the last day of their protest.

Not to mention that the red party only got 40% of the vote in the last election ... not a majority.

And ofcourse, the majority of MPs, that represent the people of Thailand, support the government.

[pornsasi]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn't approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

Secunded ...

[bobby906]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn’t approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

The reds represent the majority -are you sure about that? Did you ask Dr.Weng?

[dhrobertson]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn’t approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

What a load of codswallop,

The Nazis were primarily defeated by the Russians. Were they democrats?

I am married to a Thai, have a Thai family and run a Thai business. I was considering applying for citizenship. I may not be able to vote but I every right to expres my views.

Nobody has been robbed of their democratic rights. If the Thais are foolish enough, not educated enough and not informed enough to sell their vote, don't start bleating about lack of democracy.

Finally, Vox populi, OK. But lets keep your fictional dei out of it shall we?

[pornsasi]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn't approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

Yay for RED DEMOCRACY.

Freedom of speech ... not if you're talking against the reds.

Freedom of movement ... not if you're against the reds.

Freedom to vote ... only if you vote for the reds.

Yay for MOB DEMOCRACY. Get a few thousand people together and demand that the government step down.

It's funny how the reds are the majority, but they can only get 5,000 to the last day of their protest.

Not to mention that the red party only got 40% of the vote in the last election ... not a majority.

And ofcourse, the majority of MPs, that represent the people of Thailand, support the government.

The majority of MPs do not represent anyone anymore but themselves .

The copy and paste parliament born after the court ruling has no popular mandate to start with.

Rest is BS

We both know that

[FatherF]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn't approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

You, by your own admission are a farang, so, should you not heed your own advice and "mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business"?

But this is a forum where we are able to voice our own opinions, just as you have voiced yours!

FF

[whybother]

Yay for RED DEMOCRACY.

Freedom of speech ... not if you're talking against the reds.

Freedom of movement ... not if you're against the reds.

Freedom to vote ... only if you vote for the reds.

Yay for MOB DEMOCRACY. Get a few thousand people together and demand that the government step down.

It's funny how the reds are the majority, but they can only get 5,000 to the last day of their protest.

Not to mention that the red party only got 40% of the vote in the last election ... not a majority.

And ofcourse, the majority of MPs, that represent the people of Thailand, support the government.

The majority of MPs do not represent anyone anymore but themselves .

The copy and paste parliament born after the court ruling has no popular mandate to start with.

Rest is BS

We both know that

They were voted for, and they represent their electorates. Just because they don't support the reds does not change that fact.

[Steely Dan]

That wasn't Suthep. That was Kasit, the Foreign Minister.

Some infos about your idol

Suthep gave title deeds to 592 plots of land in Khao Sam Liam, Kamala and Nakkerd hills of Phuket province to 489 farmers. It was later found that members of 11 wealthy families in Phuket were among the recipients .Unrepentant, Suthep addressed a huge crowd in his Surat Thani constituency a month before a no-confidence debate and called on his supporters to march on Bangkok in their hundreds of thousands to defend his reputation

In 2009, Suthep was accused of violating the Constitution of Thailand by holding equity in a media firm that had received concessions from the government. Under the 1997 Constitution of Thailand, which Suthep had supported, Members of Parliament are banned from holding stakes in companies which have received government concessions

Thank you Pornsasi for pointing this out to some of the people here that have VERY short memories on this particular person. Before any real reconciliation can take place these Terrorist Yellow shirt leaders must be legally dealt with, because at the moment they are still on the loose with big smiles on their faces. What a joke.

Here we have the crux of the problem. I think Abhisit would make a great leader for a developed democracy, but he came to power with a poisoned inheritance. Some of his coalition are certainly soiled goods by any reasonable measure, the trouble is the opposition are immeasurably worse. If people want to make a song and dance about 25 deaths (principally due to the red rabble being seeded with snipers) then what about the 2,500 extra-judicial executions their lord and master was responsible for?

Abhisit is probably 300 years before his time, sadly democracy here is just a word which really boils down to having your very own paternal despot to shower you with benefits not based on need or merit but just by shirt colour. The yellow shirts set a bad example in the airport takeover, but the reds are somehow seeing this as a warped justification to let them have their turn at democracy which boils down to threats intimidation and even murder. Nowhere in any of this is the good of the nation even considered , (perhaps the multi-coloureds are an exception).

In summary to move forward you need to stop looking backwards, this is exactly what Abhisit was offering with his roadmap, the trouble is the redshirts are nowhere near mature enough to take it. Until such time as Thailand is ready a benevolent dictator along the lines of Ataturk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk

It took decades but he turned Turkey into a secular democracy after ridding society of religious nutcases. Thailand similarly needs to be rid of feudal despots at all levels for good governance the democracy to take off - Over to you Abhisit, now show your mettle please.

[pornsasi]

The farang anti-democracy posters seem to believe that democracy is extruded from the barrel of a gun, or pressed out from tank treads. It aint. That is the ideology of the Brute Force & Ignorance Tendency – once represented by the Nazis.

The legitimacy of a democratic government & its laws are established at the ballot box, by the majority of voters. It is irrelevant what farangs (you or I) think of the resulting regime (Mr T, et al). Sad that you & I didn't approve of Mr T. Real sad, but farangs should mind their own business, & let the Thais tend their own business.

The Thais made their choice, so that is clear. Comment is allowable, but what kind of arrogance is it that assumes certain farangs can make superior choices?

The tide is turning, I hope towards a stable democratic system. Whatever, farangs have no role except as commentators. This commentator has lived long enuf to remember Nazi bombs & guns. He can assure you anti-democrats & jackboot-likkers that those who fought against them were the democrats, those behind them were its enemies.

The Reds represent the majority that has been robbed of its democratic rights. Like it or lump it, they are fighting for restoration of those rights. It is a struggle between the ballot & the bullet, the majority & the minority; between democratic legitimacy & law-&-order legalism. May the majority win.

Vox populi, vox dei. OGT

What a load of codswallop,

The Nazis were primarily defeated by the Russians. Were they democrats?

I am married to a Thai, have a Thai family and run a Thai business. I was considering applying for citizenship. I may not be able to vote but I every right to expres my views.

Nobody has been robbed of their democratic rights. If the Thais are foolish enough, not educated enough and not informed enough to sell their vote, don't start bleating about lack of democracy.

Finally, Vox populi, OK. But lets keep your fictional dei out of it shall we?

If the many dems governement before 2001 had given the poor thais ,you so despised , opportunities to get a better life , perhaps there would be far less corruption possible .

Since the dems are corrupt of course , it was not in their interest .

Poor people always have poor choices ...

[Rainmon]

These people need to leave or face severe consequences, enough is enough...

Edited May 12, 2010 by Rainmon

[FatherF]

THE NATION: Urgent- high-ranking source- no election on Nov 14. All new ball game.

[SiamRose]

suggest to keep 20 meters of barricades in Front of Central or Siam Paragon, for tourism attraction.

Also some souvenirs can be sold: 10cm of Razor wire, Bamboos sticks, Red T-Shirt

Why not. That's what they did with the Berlin Wall.

[jdinasia]

Hmmmm

1) Suthep is not a MP

2) The 1997 Constitution is not the Constitution of Thailand

3) Suthep scares me --- but so far he appears to have treated the protestors according to the law. Including his responsibility on April 10th.

4) Sevenhills is perpetuating a lie --- the PAD leaders have been charged with crimes and their cases are ongoing. They are out on bail. They are not "terrorists" and have not been accused of that. The current government is not the same government that was in place at the time of the airport protest in 2008. Cases that began in 2006 have just been completed this year.

[quiksilva]

POPPYCOCK!

I have expressed my views here more than once, but this so called fight for democracy has lost what little smudge of credibility it might have had (in some deluded eyes)

The real issues have been addressed, offered to them on a plate. Yet, they have deliberately stalled their dispersal and have added all sorts of unwarranted conditions.

The Red objectives are plainly apparent now.

They WANT the government to try to disperse them. They WANT it to lead to loss of life and injuries of their own supporters, so they can use this to discredit the government, not only in the eyes of the Thai public but internationally.

Either that or

They are waiting for the PT road map to be announced which they will readily accept and so shed sparkling sunlight over Thaksin's party in order (they hope) to secure an election win.

In other words the road map to peace has become politicised, and its shameful.