More Bloodshed In Bangkok As Red Siege Continues

[earthpig]

Earthpig,

The Army takes care of its own, if ya get the drift. ...

You seem like a nice girl. No charge. Let me buy you a beverage when you are in CM.

What does Earthpig mean, exactly?

-NG

Yup.

Army isnt my thing.

My nick at Camp Lejeune.

Google it.

[jcbangkok]

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Coincidently, only a small minority have been killed too. And all the army has tried to do to this point is surround the area where the illegal mob has seized and stolen billions of dollars in both private and public property from the people of Thailand.

[neverdie]

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

FC, no doubt, you were there and witnessed all 37 murders you have the evidence & can lay the blame with every responsible individual, so with all that trott along now and go and do what you have to do to bring those responsible to justice. If you can't, put up then its probably best to s..t up.

Of course the reason I say that is, in reality, neither you nor I know which shooters were responsible for which deaths and of course anyone here with unbias views and open mind will understand that there was most likely other shooters involved, not just army ones. Furthermore, some of those shot by the army may have been shot in accordance with lawful rules and guidelines and rightly so.

Trying to pedal things one way or another is outright stupid at this point.

[jdinasia]

URGENT UPDATE: After five days, the Thai authorities were able to obtain a picture of sniper who allegedly shot Army Specialist Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol, better known as Seh Daeng.

sniper

Nice. But on a more serious note, wonder if Abhisit is regretting calling Seh Daeng the 'chief terrorist' in light of him receiving a funeral sponsored by HM the King and Queen. Bet Mark's kicking himself for that now.

And now , no way the blame for any 'black shirt' activities can be pinned on Seh Daeng by the media now, so they need someone else as a scapegoat.

They got that one covered...page 4 on Reds Live-Tues

Sae Deang's Close Aide into Custody

The Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situations, or CRES, reveals that officials have taken Sae Deang's close aide into custody.

They claim that the aide has revealed that Nutthawut Saikua is responsible for the widespread acts of terrorism throughout the city.

In the aftermath of April 10th Sae daeng spoke about taking out the command and control of the troops by using the grenade (not an admission that he did it, but a statement of admiration that his ronin did it)

So far, this appears that WHOEVER shot Sae Daeng may have accomplished much the same thing that Sae daeng admired after April 10th. The ronin have yet to be heard from since the job of containing Rachprasong has started. It could be that the military did it. It could be that the red leadership that Sae Daeng threatened did it. In the latter case, it may have warned the rest of the Ronin off .... but at a guess ....

Remember the CRES has several sources of information from inside the reds that they did NOT have on April 10th including Methee.

[FarangCravings]

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

FC, no doubt, you were there and witnessed all 37 murders you have the evidence & can lay the blame with every responsible individual, so with all that trott along now and go and do what you have to do to bring those responsible to justice. If you can't, put up then its probably best to s..t up.

Of course the reason I say that is, in reality, neither you nor I know which shooters were responsible for which deaths and of course anyone here with unbias views and open mind will understand that there was most likely other shooters involved, not just army ones. Furthermore, some of those shot by the army may have been shot in accordance with lawful rules and guidelines and rightly so.

Trying to pedal things one way or another is outright stupid at this point.

Pretty clear the Army is shooting unarmed civilians the BBC showed that very clearly with the reporter right there as the guy was shot and reported it was by the military, additionally Amnesty has reported from there people on the ground the same thing is happening plus you can see clearly the army shooting live rounds on tv into the red shirt area

pretty clear they have to of killed some people but then again they are so incompetant they might of missed everyone

Edited May 18, 2010 by FarangCravings

[NaiGreg]

My sincere apologies NG, I am the nut not you.

Next time first. Maybe two.

Mai pen rai. We've all done the regrettable-knee-jerk-post-before-coffee thing at one time or another. I think everyone is getting a little bit edgy these days. And sarcasm does not work well in online forums as a general rule.

NG

[jcbangkok]

BANGKOK - A Red Shirt protest leader called an aide to Thailand's prime minister on his cell phone on Monday and proposed a cease-fire between demonstrators and troops, the aide said.

Korbsak Sabhavasu said he received a phone call from Nattawut Saikua, one of the Red Shirt leaders, on Monday and they spoke for five minutes.

Korbsak said he told Nattawut that if the Red Shirt fighters retreat to their encampment "there will be no single bullet fired by the soldiers."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37173811/ns/wo...ws-asiapacific/

[neverdie]

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

FC, no doubt, you were there and witnessed all 37 murders you have the evidence & can lay the blame with every responsible individual, so with all that trott along now and go and do what you have to do to bring those responsible to justice. If you can't, put up then its probably best to s..t up.

Of course the reason I say that is, in reality, neither you nor I know which shooters were responsible for which deaths and of course anyone here with unbias views and open mind will understand that there was most likely other shooters involved, not just army ones. Furthermore, some of those shot by the army may have been shot in accordance with lawful rules and guidelines and rightly so.

Trying to pedal things one way or another is outright stupid at this point.

Pretty clear the Army is shooting unarmed civilians the BBC showed that very clearly with the reporter right there as the guy was shot and reported it was by the military, additionally Amnesty has reported from there people on the ground the same thing is happening plus you can see clearly the army shooting live rounds on tv into the red shirt area

pretty clear they have to of killed some people but then again they are so incompetant they might of missed everyone

FC, I will take you back to you're quote about 37 murders if you like. In what I have said just above I didnt discount anything you just said this time.

[pimay11]

Farangcravings:

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Good evening Mr. T. Would you like to share your dinner menu with us all? Your sheep are having noodles. Are you setting the example of a good leader and sleeping on the street like your sheep? Are your children also sleeping on the street with you? Do your children now have skin disease like your sheep's children due to unsanitary conditions?

Just wondering Mr. T.

[jcbangkok]

The High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said Monday :

“I urge leaders to set aside pride and politics for the sake of the people of Thailand. As the latest government deadline passes, there is a high risk that the situation could spiral out of control, to prevent further loss of life, I appeal to the protesters to step back from the brink, and the security forces to exercise maximum restraint in line with the instructions given by the government. Ultimately, this situation can only be resolved by negotiation.”

[yoshiwara]

Farangcravings:

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Good evening Mr. T. Would you like to share your dinner menu with us all? Your sheep are having noodles. Are you setting the example of a good leader and sleeping on the street like your sheep? Are your children also sleeping on the street with you? Do your children now have skin disease like your sheep's children due to unsanitary conditions?

Just wondering Mr. T.

Shot in cold blood? I don't think so.

But red propaganda would like to say so.

Latest from the peaceful reds:

INN: (17.10) One red shirt burns himself, trying to set troops on fire at Rangnam area /via @veen_NT

17 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Reply Retweet

georgebkk

Moving the wheels infront for the barricade. The women join the fight!

[jitenshaman]

Weng on the toddler on tyres: It was never our resolution for anyone 2 do that. The parents must have just wanted to let him have some fun.

I will keep that in mind next time I want the kids to have some fun. I mean why go to a playground or get some toys when you can just go out amidst burning tires, smoke, and live ammunition being fired? Perhaps the Red leadership needs to start providing some alternative playgrounds.

[exalll]

Brilliant new strategy by the government - give the international media open and continuous access to Weng. This way the world can learn all about "defensive" guns, designed only to kill at 10 metres (and therefore not very effective defence, one would have thought, if the soldiers with their "offensive" guns are 100m away). They can learn about how Thai toddlers like to have fun by being forced to stands on tyre barricades in a live fire zone ... great stuff!

[yoshiwara]

Farangcravings:

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Good evening Mr. T. Would you like to share your dinner menu with us all? Your sheep are having noodles. Are you setting the example of a good leader and sleeping on the street like your sheep? Are your children also sleeping on the street with you? Do your children now have skin disease like your sheep's children due to unsanitary conditions?

Just wondering Mr. T.

Red apologists desperately pushing the 'civilian murder' picture.

No doubt screaming about this to get international sympathy and time-out for the Thaksin forces to re-organise.

[GarryP]

I didn't believe Mr. Weng could improve on his previous comments but now it is official - he is walking on his butt cheeks because both feet are in his mouth.

[yoshiwara]

Farangcravings:

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Good evening Mr. T. Would you like to share your dinner menu with us all? Your sheep are having noodles. Are you setting the example of a good leader and sleeping on the street like your sheep? Are your children also sleeping on the street with you? Do your children now have skin disease like your sheep's children due to unsanitary conditions?

Just wondering Mr. T.

Interesting that the red apologists are now trying to paint the picture of the real reds and the fake violent reds.

Are they saying that the violent reds are endangering the 'peaceful' reds . Oh noooooooooo.

That would not do.

Better to keep them as human shields and collateral damage.

[pimay11]

Female reporter attacked by angry protesters

A Thai female reporter for France 24 TV was nearly lynched while she was interviewing a woman inside the Pathumwanaram Temple at noon Tuesday.

Nice Pojanametbalsatit had to run away from the angry protesters and rescued by guards before she was taken to the are area behind the Rajprasong rally stage.

She was interviewing a middle-aged woman who came to live inside the temple with two children.

During the interview, some protesters shouted that the reporter and her TV crew were setting up the interview to discredit the protesters.

-- The Nation 2010-05-18

These people are so peaceful. The kind of folks we all want for next door neighbors. And it was inside a temple. They are also good Buddhists.

Just imagine then running the country.

Any red supporters want to comment on this one? Didn't think so.

[lannarebirth]

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

FC, no doubt, you were there and witnessed all 37 murders you have the evidence & can lay the blame with every responsible individual, so with all that trott along now and go and do what you have to do to bring those responsible to justice. If you can't, put up then its probably best to s..t up.

Of course the reason I say that is, in reality, neither you nor I know which shooters were responsible for which deaths and of course anyone here with unbias views and open mind will understand that there was most likely other shooters involved, not just army ones. Furthermore, some of those shot by the army may have been shot in accordance with lawful rules and guidelines and rightly so.

Trying to pedal things one way or another is outright stupid at this point.

Pretty clear the Army is shooting unarmed civilians the BBC showed that very clearly with the reporter right there as the guy was shot and reported it was by the military, additionally Amnesty has reported from there people on the ground the same thing is happening plus you can see clearly the army shooting live rounds on tv into the red shirt area

pretty clear they have to of killed some people but then again they are so incompetant they might of missed everyone

INN: (17.10) One red shirt burns himself, trying to set troops on fire at Rangnam area /via @veen_NT

[rogerx007]

Female reporter attacked by angry protesters

A Thai female reporter for France 24 TV was nearly lynched while she was interviewing a woman inside the Pathumwanaram Temple at noon Tuesday.

Nice Pojanametbalsatit had to run away from the angry protesters and rescued by guards before she was taken to the are area behind the Rajprasong rally stage.

She was interviewing a middle-aged woman who came to live inside the temple with two children.

During the interview, some protesters shouted that the reporter and her TV crew were setting up the interview to discredit the protesters.

-- The Nation 2010-05-18

These people are so peaceful. The kind of folks we all want for next door neighbors. And it was inside a temple. They are also good Buddhists.

Just imagine then running the country.

Any red supporters want to comment on this one? Didn't think so.

She recounted that she had been attacked by protesters at Phan Fa twice because of similar misunderstanding

[animatic]

URGENT UPDATE: After five days, the Thai authorities were able to obtain a picture of sniper who allegedly shot Army Specialist Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol, better known as Seh Daeng.

sniper

Nice. But on a more serious note, wonder if Abhisit is regretting calling Seh Daeng the 'chief terrorist' in light of him receiving a funeral sponsored by HM the King and Queen. Bet Mark's kicking himself for that now.

And now , no way the blame for any 'black shirt' activities can be pinned on Seh Daeng by the media now, so they need someone else as a scapegoat.

Abhisit has the toughest job on hand right now in Thailand if not the world...

Well Sae Daeng, before the last chapter, was a long time Army soldier who rose to general.

Just because he made bad decisions towards the end, doesn't erase his past services to Thailand.

I believe for this past service he received the royal bathing rites bestowed.

A man is judge NOW, and also on the totality of his life.

The highest chair is no doubt wise enough to take the long view.

This week I have thought of the old White Christmas song Big Crosby sang;

"What Do You Do With a General,

When He's No Longer Being A General?"

[bkkjames]

Female reporter attacked by angry protesters

A Thai female reporter for France 24 TV was nearly lynched while she was interviewing a woman inside the Pathumwanaram Temple at noon Tuesday.

Nice Pojanametbalsatit had to run away from the angry protesters and rescued by guards before she was taken to the are area behind the Rajprasong rally stage.

She was interviewing a middle-aged woman who came to live inside the temple with two children.

During the interview, some protesters shouted that the reporter and her TV crew were setting up the interview to discredit the protesters.

-- The Nation 2010-05-18

These people are so peaceful. The kind of folks we all want for next door neighbors. And it was inside a temple. They are also good Buddhists.

Just imagine then running the country.

Any red supporters want to comment on this one? Didn't think so.

Amazing that it was the guards that had to save her from the 'peaceful' if but paranoid protesters.

[kissdani]

And that leaves --- point 14 --- Violent assemblies. While that may be the way that you see it then the use of firearms is allowed.Anything else is semantics to be decided and yes in some cases the troops probably have made mistakes.

...

When faced with enemies that are armed and willing to do that then YES people will get hurt and killed. The wrong people sometimes.

Excuse the murder of a 10 years old boy an a mistake makes you to a Murder apologist.

That pathetic club is big here on TVF and makes you many friends.

[jcbangkok]

RedShirt 2008

Red Shirts 2009

RedShirts try to kill PM Abhisit

[dino67]

Maybe Weng meant that the guy had a small homemade handgun for his personal protection in the event he got cold feet and wanted to leave the rally !

[kissdani]

Never denied it or tried to prove otherwise ... its the "EXPERTS" like you who have a problem with tht term...

If by "EXPERTS" you mean people that can get their quotes right ... then Thanks! Otherwise I am no expert, just an informed and interested observer (mostly), But I CAN do more than just add oneliners that criticize posters (mostly!)

How good is the visibility of whats is going on on the streets of bangkok form behind your keyboard pretended to be located in Chiang Mai?

[yoshiwara]

Never denied it or tried to prove otherwise ... its the "EXPERTS" like you who have a problem with tht term...

If by "EXPERTS" you mean people that can get their quotes right ... then Thanks! Otherwise I am no expert, just an informed and interested observer (mostly), But I CAN do more than just add oneliners that criticize posters (mostly!)

How good is the visibility of whats is going on on the streets of bangkok form behind your keyboard pretended to be located in Chiang Mai?

And you are pretending to be where exactly?

[animatic]

VictorMeldrewBKK'2010-05-18 13:32:40']I've just put another video up. It's gonna send the red sympathizers up the wall

Thaksin Empire State of Mind (In Bangkok)

Really excellent vid well done

Bought a smile to my face and a tear to my eye.

While not a fan of the musical genre or the NY Yankees I have to say well done. Particularly the sequence at 1:30 - 1:34 tieing the black shirt commandos of April 10 directly to the Red Shirt leadership. Amnesty my ass!

well thank you both

If you liked that, then watch my newer one showing how armed they are. It has shut up a lot of 'red got no weapons brigade'. please leave comment because there are many red sympathizers giving it the usual rubbish.

video showing red shirt weapons and violence

No one doubts a SMALL minority are armed that does not give the Military a free roll to MURDER 37+ people some unarmed and shot in cold blood

Shameless red propagandising

[NaiGreg]

KissDassi,

I am interested in knowing who, why and where the boy was murdered.

Please provide the information as you have misconstrued it.

Thanks,

I am adherent of Seh Daeng's change-through-peace-and-music policy.

[pimay11]

RedShirt 2008

Red Shirts 2009

RedShirts try to kill PM Abhisit

This is what the PM needs to protect him. No more reds, yellows or any other color trying to kill him.

[A_Traveller]

^ ^ I asked about this, not just here, and the nearest I got to any reply was finding in the AI press release a mention of a 10 year old who had been injured.

Regards

Edited May 18, 2010 by A_Traveller