cdnverbalkint Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I doubt most countries will buy the terrorism charges against Khun T. I suspect things will remain the same for him regardless of what happens in thailand. I think even if Khun T was dead this mess will continue.... It appears the issue is that you in fact do not and did not think before posting this drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britannia Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! I'm so grateful we have someone like you that knows EVERYTHING. So, please enlighten us...but please keep it civil (i undertsnd that's hard you..........nearly forgot my manners!) Seriously, give us a concise rundown of what you know..... I don’t know what he knows but I’ll tell you what I know, No First World Country will extradite anyone unless They agree with the charges They agree that the sentence would not be greater than it would in the Country extraditing That the Person would get a fair trial And most important, that the Country the are extraditing to has a good Human rights record, with regards to prison conditions On the 4th issue no First World country will extradite ANYBODY to Thailand as the prisons do not meet Human rights conditions Regardless of what some of you think we are not all revengeful animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I doubt most countries will buy the terrorism charges against Khun T. I suspect things will remain the same for him regardless of what happens in thailand. I think even if Khun T was dead this mess will continue.... they will nail him on terrorist charges like OBL, don't worry. The mess won't continue once the pockets of treason-ers are cleared. You are right, those who were in the planning circle down to mob organizing on local levels will be hunted for years, justice will truly find them. They won't get another chance to stir up troubles again. tukky_nt: So far (as of 9pm) 27 locations around BKK have been arson attacked:BMA via TVThaiWed May 19 2010 21:00:23 GMT+0700 (SE Asia Standard Time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Post referring to an unknown politician called "toxin" deleted. Disingenuous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! Rather than "knock" the OP I think what he is trying to say is that for a country that has a system that is built to entertain corruption, that incorporates it in to everyday life so that it is endemic throughout the country, what chance is there for someone who has the ability to spend billions of baht really getting his just deserts? You can bribe your way out of any crime in Thailand provided you have enough money and contacts, and Thaksin has both. Despite what we like to think, this still is a Third World country to all intents and purposes, full of corruption at every level apart from the level of the poor folk, who have no leverage as regards corruption because they do not hold any positions of office which enable them to fit into the system in order to be able to put their "snouts in the trough". Irrespective of whomsoever gets into power, it will just be a matter of putting different coloured snouts in the trough and if the poor people ever do see something in the way of equality and handouts, it will just be the people in power giving them back a little of what has been stolen from them, quite probably in order to keep them quiet for a while until the status quo can resume. I am afraid a radical transformation is needed throughout the whole of the country from top to bottom before it can ever be considered a democracy in which the government and people in office, including the army and police do what they are supposed to do and serve the country -- -- not line their own pockets. The place resembles a banana republic through and through and the events of the past few months have shown it for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETatBKK Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 anyone has clear idea what stupid things these guy did ? Thaksin Shinawatra Adisorn Piengket Veera Musigapong Weng Tojirakarn Jatuporn Prompan - turned in Nutthawut Saikua - turned in Kwanchai Praiphana - turned in Arisman Thongruangrong - arrested Wiphuthalaeng Phattanaphumthai Phayup Punket - search Chulalongkorn Jeng Dokjik Wichian Khaokham Aree Krainara Suksek Poltua Surachai Thewarat Rachata Wongyod Korkeaw Pikuntong Wiputalang Nisit Sinthuprai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Well there are also terrorism charges out against Kasit and he became minister of foreign affairs. From Kasit can be proven that he was there and played a roll, from Thaksin you can only assume that he was involved. Fact is that this government does not get it. Was there buzz word Reconciliation? First we need a new PM, a man with big big balls who does not hide and leave the interviews to his buddy Korn but who assures the people of Thailand. For now I would say Thaksin is as much to blame as Suthep and Abhisit. It will become very cozy in prison soon. LMFAO. Still talking about that, in light of your Red Hero's Day of Terror? Hmmm was Kasit ever indicted on those charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnog Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbangkok Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 The Gov't really needs to a do a major PR campaign about Thaksin. His being dead would probably be a good thing but you just never know. The reds up North years ago replaced all the pictures in the house of someone truly worthy of their respect and loyalty and replaced them with Thaksin. Many tend to see him in a worshiping fashion. I believe there is one women at the red camp who told CNN she wanted to die for Thaksin. Bottom line it is a delicate road to go down but first and foremost is the law much be upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnverbalkint Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Dreaming again.Nobody is ever going to send Thaksin back to a murderous third world right wing dictatorship. why is he in london now laugh against your silly charge. have lawyer now going to cause big finiance problem for thai elites who have money they steal from poor and buy house in london and europe. watch for this. surprise me that intellegent falang cannot see this is just for use as propaganda on poor farmers. farmers not believe it because they not buffalo like falangs. Goodness, what a shining example of what not having an education leads to. How very sad for you and your family, I do hope at some point your brain gets in gear and you take a close look at all the trolling you are doing and realize you could be so much better than this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohitsuk Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Traitors Gate, the bloody tower and off with his head. Then he really will have found the justice he claims to seek so ardently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netfan Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Angry people, keep calm I assume you are directing that at the reds out looting right now? Doubt they are reading TV, but nice sentiments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! I'm so grateful we have someone like you that knows EVERYTHING. So, please enlighten us...but please keep it civil (i undertsnd that's hard you..........nearly forgot my manners!) Seriously, give us a concise rundown of what you know..... I don't know what he knows but I'll tell you what I know, No First World Country will extradite anyone unless They agree with the charges They agree that the sentence would not be greater than it would in the Country extraditing That the Person would get a fair trial And most important, that the Country the are extraditing to has a good Human rights record, with regards to prison conditions On the 4th issue no First World country will extradite ANYBODY to Thailand as the prisons do not meet Human rights conditions Regardless of what some of you think we are not all revengeful animals LOL - thanks Judge Judy. Wonder if you know just how many people have been extradited from "First World" countries to Thailand this year. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 So they took alot of his money, he still has alot of money. It seems to me if he would have turned himself in a couple of years back he would have served his 2 years(probably out in less time), gotten out, been able to live in thailand, make more money. He probably could have manipulated a greater following by doing his time, he would have shown strength. It just makes all the more sad that the red shirt followers were so manipulated and used-while he hangs out jet setting around the world hitting the major shopping districts . I am glad the government finally acted, they did a great job with what they were faced with. I also felt sadness at video of the people behind the barricades, most of them so manipulated into thinking that this "revolt" would lead to improvement of their lives. I think this is a small part of the bigger picture, the majority being manipulated by business and corporations. The financial meltdown occuring has not thrown one single banker or ceo out of their homes , or stopped them from shopping for purses in france. Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! Rather than "knock" the OP I think what he is trying to say is that for a country that has a system that is built to entertain corruption, that incorporates it in to everyday life so that it is endemic throughout the country, what chance is there for someone who has the ability to spend billions of baht really getting his just deserts? You can bribe your way out of any crime in Thailand provided you have enough money and contacts, and Thaksin has both. Despite what we like to think, this still is a Third World country to all intents and purposes, full of corruption at every level apart from the level of the poor folk, who have no leverage as regards corruption because they do not hold any positions of office which enable them to fit into the system in order to be able to put their "snouts in the trough". Irrespective of whomsoever gets into power, it will just be a matter of putting different coloured snouts in the trough and if the poor people ever do see something in the way of equality and handouts, it will just be the people in power giving them back a little of what has been stolen from them, quite probably in order to keep them quiet for a while until the status quo can resume. I am afraid a radical transformation is needed throughout the whole of the country from top to bottom before it can ever be considered a democracy in which the government and people in office, including the army and police do what they are supposed to do and serve the country -- -- not line their own pockets. The place resembles a banana republic through and through and the events of the past few months have shown it for what it is. hmmm Thaksin has been convicted twice already .... so yes you CANNOT always buy your way out of crime in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 So they took alot of his money, he still has alot of money. It seems to me if he would have turned himself in a couple of years back he would have served his 2 years(probably out in less time), gotten out, been able to live in thailand, make more money. He probably could have manipulated a greater following by doing his time, he would have shown strength. It just makes all the more sad that the red shirt followers were so manipulated and used-while he hangs out jet setting around the world hitting the major shopping districts . I am glad the government finally acted, they did a great job with what they were faced with. I also felt sadness at video of the people behind the barricades, most of them so manipulated into thinking that this "revolt" would lead to improvement of their lives. I think this is a small part of the bigger picture, the majority being manipulated by business and corporations. The financial meltdown occuring has not thrown one single banker or ceo out of their homes , or stopped them from shopping for purses in france. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. I agree. It was about Taksin a year ago but since then it has become about people wanting a fair deal and an end to the double-standards. They have been pissed on by the Thai elite since the year dot and now they have collectively realised that through democracy they have power. This is something us weterners take for granted so think about it for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlongdon Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 he was in france last week end buying a louis vuitton bag for his daughter...call sarkozy... Seriously?? Man, I wish I'd known that last week. I ride past the LV store every day on the way back from work. And for those of you who know the Champs Elysées, it's VERY easy to have a motorcycle "accident" there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Now we're talking. Contrary to corruption charges, a lot of countries have the legal framework to arrest and extradite people wanted on terrorism charges. Thaksin can at least say bye bye to any first-world country for the foreseeable future - and maybe with a bit of luck see the inside of a jail cell very soon. Dreaming again. Nobody is ever going to send Thaksin back to a murderous third world right wing dictatorship. why is he in london now laugh against your silly charge. have lawyer now going to cause big finiance problem for thai elites who have money they steal from poor and buy house in london and europe. watch for this. surprise me that intellegent falang cannot see this is just for use as propaganda on poor farmers. farmers not believe it because they not buffalo like falangs. Someone needs to charge you with "Juvenile Delinquency", some of your posts today are just that IMO....In London my ass, he's not allowed if my memory serves me correctly.... Maybe a mod could use a mod hammer upon your head to knock some sense into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. Wow...how lucky we are that we have an intelligent intelligent person to help us. Arrogant idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. Wow...how lucky we are that we have an intelligent intelligent person to help us. Arrogant idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagheera65 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 AT LAST! NO PRISONERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordchild Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) I can't see him getting arrested but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets whacked. Upset some heavy hitting business interests today. yes could be,the family of Tiang Chirathivat decsd (the majority owners of Central) have the kind of money that makes takki look a (relative) pauper Edited May 19, 2010 by wordchild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netfan Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. Seh Daeng, just before his demise: "The protests will end when Thaksin says they are over". Does that mean Seh Daeng tarnished Thaksin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalen Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) How very sad that most of the people participating in this thread actually believe all the propaganda. This is not about Thaksin. Yes, he is a figurehead because at the beginning of this fight he was the only one who stood forward and had money to support a movement. But it has become much bigger than Thaksin - but the government (and this is where you people are so stupid) is still using him because they want to tarnish him. The government knows how popular he is in the north and Isaan and want to diminish his power. This is about democracy and equal rights. Not Thaksin. You stupid stupid people. Dear Sir, it is not about being stupid or not, people have their own observations and are entitled to express their opinions. That is all, we are not able to do anything and the government really does not care what a group of foreigners thinks about recent and not so recent developments. So please do not get angry and we welcome your opinion too, just do not call those who do not think the same way stupid as this is not very kind and may upset others. We all want peace and prosperity for this great country and many of us by paying taxes and reinvesting the profits contribute to the growth of the economy. Have a nice evening. Edited May 19, 2010 by macwalen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnverbalkint Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 This government is the worst I have ever seen.. and some of the people here..may have studied for quite sometimes.. become the second class or higher who claims they knows what is the meaning of "democracy".. Thailand has become the biggest joke in international for attacking and hurting those unarmed people.. Those "educated" person thought they can rule the country with their limited knowledge without providing the real care to the people.. definitely will get revenge one day. From the beginning, the red-shirt gangs is only looking for Election but not a War. Any smart politician should know how to solve the problem UNLESS they worry their power are being stolen after election.. What a mess Hehe, I really love when the trolls come out to play but in your case the skill level is clearly not up to par with some of the more experienced SP and bridge dwellers, but keep at it young lad you too might be a famous TV troll some day. You are so right I simply don't know why the PM did not offer up elections... ummmmmm never mind you'll never understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! Please enlighten us, oh wise one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Robert Amsterdam must also be include on the terrorist list for his involvement with Thaksin and his blatatnt terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Updated: Ji Ungpakorn on anger The Anger of the People is Justified Giles Ji Ungpakorn The anger of the ordinary people has finally erupted into violence with numerous buildings being set of fire in Bangkok and the provinces. People are also trying to use any means to fight the army. There are reports that Government buildings, banks, the stock-exchange, luxury shopping malls and pro-military media are all being set on fire. All this is totally justified.. why? Because: 1. The Government and the army have repeatedly used armed soldiers, assassination squads, snipers and tanks to kill unarmed pro-democracy demonstrators since April. The death toll will easily reach 80 with thousands injured. 2. This state-sponsored violence against civilians was carried out in order that Abhisit’s military-backed Government could stay in power and avoid elections for as long as possible. It was never elected in the first place. The Government is a product of military and judicial coups since 2006. 3. The Red Shirts have repeatedly offered talks and compromises, yet the Government has answered with bullets. 4. In a Democracy, the people should be the ultimate decision-makers, not the military, the elites and the Palace. Any demand for democratic elections is totally justified, even if it disrupts shopping centres and luxury hotels. 5. Mealy-mouthed so called non-violent groups could never bring themselves to put the blame entirely on the shoulders of the Government, the military and Royalist elites, despite the fact that the violence was from the army. They never put their weight behind the huge struggle of the UDD leadership to try to maintain a peaceful and disciplined protest. This is because these organisations supported the coup in 2006 in the first place. They allowed the Government to claim that there would be no peace until the protests stopped. Yet now that the official protest has been drowned in blood and stopped, there will not be peace because there is no justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Are all of you commenting completely clueless? You think any of your calls for "justice" etc are ever in a million years going to happen here? "Bring Thaksin to justice!" Man, you guys live in this country for years and yet know NOTHING! I'm so grateful we have someone like you that knows EVERYTHING. So, please enlighten us...but please keep it civil (i undertsnd that's hard you..........nearly forgot my manners!) Seriously, give us a concise rundown of what you know..... I don't know what he knows but I'll tell you what I know, No First World Country will extradite anyone unless They agree with the charges They agree that the sentence would not be greater than it would in the Country extraditing That the Person would get a fair trial And most important, that the Country the are extraditing to has a good Human rights record, with regards to prison conditions On the 4th issue no First World country will extradite ANYBODY to Thailand as the prisons do not meet Human rights conditions Regardless of what some of you think we are not all revengeful animals Hmmm guess you just don't know what you are talking about! http://kdka.com/business/fugitive.banker.r....2.1280288.html Oct 29, 2009 8:54 pm US/Eastern Fugitive Banker Extradited To Thailand VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) ― Click to enlarge 1 of 1A fugitive banker's long fight against extradition ended Thursday as he was put on a plane back to Thailand, where he faces charges of fraud that Thai officials say contributed to the 1990s Asian financial crisis. A fugitive banker's long fight against extradition ended Thursday as he was put on a plane back to Thailand, where he faces charges of fraud that Thai officials say contributed to the 1990s Asian financial crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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