Thaksin - Will Interpol Act?

[Colabamumbai]

The weighted index says that the plan is not weighted in favour of the Government, the red shirt trash will be back on the streets again, if Thaskin is escorted back to Thailand, the best argument is for Mossad to complete the job, and a good job they do ,they even use fake Australian Passports, but the boys and girls of Mossad have a good score when it comes to the hit rate, 100%.

<deleted> when did Mossad become a hit man agency for hire? What the hel_l is wrong with you people?

Go outside, smile at someone, it would do you all a bunch of good.

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I was banned from this forum for 24 hours 2 months ago for making a similar comment.

[Jimi007]

Well your statement regarding having someone in the defense like R.Amsterdam makes the rule of law in the west a farce too - doesn't it?

So, after all the famous "rule of law" in the so called "civilized" countries isn't really that much ahead of any 3rd world fiefdoms isn't it?

Just remember the O.J. Simpson case... ! ?

It states clearly that he/she however has the money to afford a "good lawyer" will be able to have fiance someone, who employs a team to find ANY possible loop hole and bend the Paragraphs of law in a way that wrong become right if not right then certainly not wrong!

taking all of this under consideration - even he manages to struggle free that still doesn't make this man innocent!

His hand are dripping with blood and he was is the ONE - no but's 'n if's!

get it?

i did, but i'm not agree with u

someone else's hand are dripping blood for the 8x dead.

Well, OJ is arrogant and conceited man! He got away with murder, but he's in prison now! Just couldn't keep his ego in check. Hmm, similar traits to Thaksin?

[mazeltov]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

[lannarebirth]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Are you sure you're not working for the other side now? I'm sure you know, in each of the examples you have cited Thaksin personally was enriched. FTA's > Shincorp, Singapore > Thaksin, Preah Vihear > widely regarded as the quid pro quo for Koh Kong casino deal for Thaksin.

[mca]

And I don`t know where you get facts that lead you to believe UDD would ever win an election in Thailand, it seems if we are to believe the pollsters, that their popularity has slumped to an all time low of around 18%..

[mazeltov]

The knowledge and information available at TV is astounding, don't know why I didn't join earlier.

On a technical point, I think "politically motivated" implies that the accused did not commit the crime in question and the charge is bogus. It does not mean the accused committed the crime while he was involved in a political squabble. Burning down major cities is not a legal response to a political problem.

Yes, I also find the acknowledge here astounding and wished I had joined before leaving school.

Did anyone see Thaksin running around Bangkok with a gallon of gas and a box of matches?

SCNR

[A_Traveller]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Yet again unmitigated nonsense. Tell you what, why not get the cat from your avatar to walk across the keys a few times, and post that. It's more likely to truthful and accurate then the dross you create.

Thaksin made a major play of his nationalist credentials, famously in the early days of his administration he gave a speech one day and then the local version which was, surprise couched in ultra-nationalist terms. He was furious when the international media picked up on the discrepancies. His Singapore business was linked to the technology requirement, and then subsequently to the reality that with Shin Corp on the block, only Tamasek was willing to undertake the critical all-share, all divisions deal which Thaksin needed.

The Chinese FTA, for example benefits some aspects of incoming foreign trade, ironically [or not] including the agricultural sector which has suffered badly from the FTA protected competition. Some might think that odd, given Pol Lt Col. Thaksin's enthusiasm for the assisting the poor. As to the Cambodian position, I'll say here that in my view supporting the World Heritage Site and working with them on this made a lot of sense, but it was poorly handled by the then ministers.

Regards

[Hawk]

Did anyone see Nuttawat, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Arisman, Veera, or Weng with matches or gas? But did anyone hear them see them on video instructing their followers to burn buildings? People like Thaksin don't do their own dirty work, that doesn't mean that they don't bear responsibility for what happens. Let him appear in court see the evidence and give his own account, then let him be judged fairly for what he is accused of.

Did anyone hear Thaksin instruct the mob to burn down any buildings?

[mazeltov]

The Reds were not very smart, all they did were to follow the Yellow. Why can't they be more creative?

They maybe weren't so smart when compared to you but they did paint the night red, and that's creative.

With your disinformation (lies) and now this ----- off you go into the ignore list.

why some board members, not only jdinasia also others, repeatly make claims like 'i put you on my ignore list' and variations of it?

isn't that the opposite of ignoring someone?

[anotheruser]

Only read the last page but is this thread about if Interpol will arrest Thaksin or not? It doesn't seem so. Could people go rehash their pro or anti Thaksin rants in the threads that were created for that? This thread is about Interpol not your personal feelings of politics. Hopefully a mod will come around and clean the garbage posts out and get people back on topic soon.

[jdinasia]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Yet again unmitigated nonsense. Tell you what, why not get the cat from your avatar to walk across the keys a few times, and post that. It's more likely to truthful and accurate then the dross you create.

Thaksin made a major play of his nationalist credentials, famously in the early days of his administration he gave a speech one day and then the local version which was, surprise couched in ultra-nationalist terms. He was furious when the international media picked up on the discrepancies. His Singapore business was linked to the technology requirement, and then subsequently to the reality that with Shin Corp on the block, only Tamasek was willing to undertake the critical all-share, all divisions deal which Thaksin needed.

The Chinese FTA, for example benefits some aspects of incoming foreign trade, ironically [or not] including the agricultural sector which has suffered badly from the FTA protected competition. Some might think that odd, given Pol Lt Col. Thaksin's enthusiasm for the assisting the poor. As to the Cambodian position, I'll say here that in my view supporting the World Heritage Site and working with them on this made a lot of sense, but it was poorly handled by the then ministers.

Regards

Why you bother I just don't know --- Thaksin played the xenophobe card from the creation of his political party 'Thai Rak Thai'. It played well to his target audience and to many other Thai people until they saw where he took it.

[saintofsilence]

Yes I think Interpol will act

Edited May 27, 2010 by saintofsilence

[mazeltov]

In the past Thailand has cooperated in arresting foreigners and extraditing them for serious offenses. If interpol won't act I suggest that Thailand review its own policy toward international policing. It's a two way street, financing and planning the overthrow of the the Thai government is a serious charge that deserves the cooperation of international governments to resolve. In the past Thailand has arrested terrorists like Viktor Bout and Hambali. Interpol should do its job and track Thaksin and facilitate his arrest when possible. It is not interpol's job to speculate on the nature of the charges or to judge Thaksin themselves. Thailand has its own courts for that. When he appears in a Thai court he can hear the evidence against him and respond, these charges should not be tried in the media but in an appropriate forum.

It goes even further than that.

Once he is arrested, he will have a chance to fight extradition in a foreign court which is supposedly unbiased.

It is absolutely NOT the job of Interpol to selectively enforce their mandate based solely on their personal feelings of guilt or innocence. It is inexcusable for them to apply "double standards" (I really wanted to use that word) in this case.

Their only reaction to these charges is to do their job and take Thaksin into custody. He can sit under house arrest in a foreign guilded cage for a decade while he fights extradition. That would suit everyone just fine. As long as there is a way to shut that man up and stop him from inciting further hatred and division in Thailand I will be happy.

I agree. That would be most excellent. If Interpol decides not to cooperate with the government of Thailand on this, they are basically saying they don't recognize the government here as legitimate. Where would they have gotten that idea? Thaksin's and Robert Amsterdam's propaganda is where. Wise move of Thaksin to put his money into legal PR at this time.

they did that already, Interpol decided not to cooperate in the previous requests.

from the OP, Thai officials finally admit that they never had a chance to 'get' Thaksin with interpol:

"Thai police failed in previous attempts to have Thaksin placed on Interpol's wanted list despite a top court sentencing him to two years jail over the Ratchadaphisek land deal.

Interpol considered the case to be politically motivated, said Police Maj-General Therdsak Rujirawong, commander of the Royal Thai Police's International Affairs Division."

maybe the Thai government should hire you as their PR expert. 5555

[Hawk]

The Reds were not very smart, all they did were to follow the Yellow. Why can't they be more creative?

They maybe weren't so smart when compared to you but they did paint the night red, and that's creative.

With your disinformation (lies) and now this ----- off you go into the ignore list.

why some board members, not only jdinasia also others, repeatly make claims like 'i put you on my ignore list' and variations of it?

isn't that the opposite of ignoring someone?

Has to bring it to my attention that he's now ignoring me, what a jerk. As if I give a toss.

[mazeltov]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Are you sure you're not working for the other side now? I'm sure you know, in each of the examples you have cited Thaksin personally was enriched. FTA's > Shincorp, Singapore > Thaksin, Preah Vihear > widely regarded as the quid pro quo for Koh Kong casino deal for Thaksin.

that is the yellow propaganda argument.

but agree Thaksin has some benefits from this agreements as many others in the country, so what?

where are the examples of Thaksin not fond of foreigners? not selling beer before 5pm, closing gogo bars at 2am under the 'new social order'? (people have been targeted by this acts are a core group in the thaksin hater pool) getting jobs as teacher become more difficult for unqualified foreigners? or what are the points?

[Jimi007]

Only read the last page but is this thread about if Interpol will arrest Thaksin or not? It doesn't seem so. Could people go rehash their pro or anti Thaksin rants in the threads that were created for that? This thread is about Interpol not your personal feelings of politics. Hopefully a mod will come around and clean the garbage posts out and get people back on topic soon.

I read the entire thread. At several points, I was just going to go do something else, which I did. It took me until page 9 to type a word, just because I sometimes don't to bother to or want jump in the middle of a rather mindless discussion... But I'd didn't see anything in your post on the topic. At least most of us did. And it is about what your personal idea is: Will Interpol Act? The topic of this thread...

[chadintheusa]

Did anyone see Nuttawat, Jatuporn, Seh Daeng, Arisman, Veera, or Weng with matches or gas? But did anyone hear them see them on video instructing their followers to burn buildings? People like Thaksin don't do their own dirty work, that doesn't mean that they don't bear responsibility for what happens. Let him appear in court see the evidence and give his own account, then let him be judged fairly for what he is accused of.

Did anyone hear Thaksin instruct the mob to burn down any buildings?

A good question that should be answered in court.

[chadintheusa]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Are you sure you're not working for the other side now? I'm sure you know, in each of the examples you have cited Thaksin personally was enriched. FTA's > Shincorp, Singapore > Thaksin, Preah Vihear > widely regarded as the quid pro quo for Koh Kong casino deal for Thaksin.

that is the yellow propaganda argument.

but agree Thaksin has some benefits from this agreements as many others in the country, so what?

where are the examples of Thaksin not fond of foreigners? not selling beer before 5pm, closing gogo bars at 2am under the 'new social order'? (people have been targeted by this acts are a core group in the thaksin hater pool) getting jobs as teacher become more difficult for unqualified foreigners? or what are the points?

The Thaksin government was very fond of the USA especially the GE company when they took bribes in the scandal around airport scanners.

[saintofsilence]

[A_Traveller]

@mazeltov: You really don't have a clue do you, or alternatively you do but the crib sheet says otherwise. Let;s put it this way, in the analogue I'm aware of a number of significant commercial projects which went from possible to impossible once TRT was in place. I'm also aware of noticeable changes in direction by ministries relating to externalities. You may choose to believe this or not, since for obvious reasons I can't go into commercially sensitive information here but that was the reality.

Please note this has nothing to do with commissions or other extraneous issues, it had a great deal to do with an inherent focus of the government, and the TRT one was not the limit of my exposure here. I'll also be fair and comment that there were exceptions to this, notably Chinese and Japanese operations, though very much in that order.

Regards

PS I'm sure you'll want to make some spurious rejoinder as to why that makes me 'anti-Thaksin' or pro-yellow as you are wont to do, but it is interesting to note how that alomost xenophobic response has become further ingrained irrespective of ministerial and party change.

[clown]

If you understood Thai, you would know that he's talking about the PENSION PROGRAM of 500 Baht for old Thais. I often see this video mentioned as being proof of 500 Baht being paid to every protester. Well, I'm sorry to say but it's not. He's talking about the 500 Baht pension for elderly citizens.

[A_Traveller]

The Thaksin government was very fond of the USA especially the GE company when they took bribes in the scandal around airport scanners.

No, the reality was that the bribery took place through and at the behest of the distributor [Thai] with InVision, which subsequently became part of GE and GE thereafter shopped itself thereby paying the fine to the US government.

The scanners were bought from InVision and then resold with an amazing mark-up internally within Thailand.

Regards

Edited May 27, 2010 by A_Traveller

[Bottlerocket]

If Thaksin had committed terrorism against the USA it is likely that they would hunt him and kill him regardless of which country he fled to, I guess he's lucky to be Thai, or Montenegrian, or whatever he claims to be at the moment.

Yeah, just like Osama Bin Laden.

[clown]

If you understood Thai, you would know that he's talking about the PENSION PROGRAM of 500 Baht for old Thais. I often see this video mentioned as being proof of 500 Baht being paid to every protester. Well, I'm sorry to say but it's not. He's talking about the 500 Baht pension for elderly citizens.

The reason why many people get confused with this clip I think is because it's only a portion of the entire speech. Probably edited on purpose to give you the impression he's talking about paying 500 Baht to protesters. If you look up the complete speech, you'll notice that he's talking about the pensions for the elderly before that portion, and then says that he will keep working after he's 60 and Thailand's elderly won't have to stand in line to get their monthly 500 Baht.

It's a ridiculous attempt at trying to find proof for the 500 Baht myth. Unfortunately, a lot of people that don't understand enough Thai to listen to the entire speech will end up believing it.

[lannarebirth]

If you understood Thai, you would know that he's talking about the PENSION PROGRAM of 500 Baht for old Thais. I often see this video mentioned as being proof of 500 Baht being paid to every protester. Well, I'm sorry to say but it's not. He's talking about the 500 Baht pension for elderly citizens.

How much were the aged, outside the social security system, getting under Thaksin's regime? My recollection is, nothing. Strike that. I do recall when he was hiding out in Roi Et from the press, those elderly willing to grovel or prostrate themselves before him would receive a nice crisp 1,000 baht note that he would peel off his pimp roll.

[animatic]

If you understood Thai, you would know that he's talking about the PENSION PROGRAM of 500 Baht for old Thais. I often see this video mentioned as being proof of 500 Baht being paid to every protester. Well, I'm sorry to say but it's not. He's talking about the 500 Baht pension for elderly citizens.

Right that's why the guy off screen tells him to retract it, and he boobbles a bit,

'You can't say that'. This is just a new spin on an old long standing slip up from Thaksin's mouth.

[tb86]

If Thaksin had committed terrorism against the USA it is likely that they would hunt him and kill him regardless of which country he fled to, I guess he's lucky to be Thai, or Montenegrian, or whatever he claims to be at the moment.

Yeah, just like Osama Bin Laden.

mmm hasnt been a peep out of him in the last few years now has there.....id wager hes dead already but, who knows please prove me wrong as i havent been to the us in a while so i may be misinformed, saddam on the other hand would agree

[Flatouthruthefog]

To Thailand's current government:

be careful of what you wish for, you may get it.

Sooo true!

I can't imagine any worse or more dangerous focal point for a real civil war than the odious creature locked up in a cell here in Thailand somewhere. Satisfying for so many as that would be.

As Thailand has the death penalty, few nations will even try to send him back here, thank goodness.

I think he should be left to count his dwindling fortune somewhere, ideally deeply obscure, and die very slowly. Of loneliness and home sickness.

[clown]

Right that's why the guy off screen tells him to retract it, and he boobbles a bit,

'You can't say that'. This is just a new spin on an old long standing slip up from Thaksin's mouth.

I don't hear anyone telling him to retract it. I've seen the entire speech and he's talking about the 500 Baht for the elderly Thais, nothing more. Why else would he say "you won't need to stand in line for your 500 Baht"? Because right now they need to stand in line every month to pick up their 500 Baht. Do a bit of research.

Abhisit has mentioned the 500 Baht program several times too, I guess someone could make a clip from him too and then use it the same way, saying the pink shirts are getting paid 500 Baht. Silly, isn't it?

[mazeltov]

Just check out the sputtering in Mr.Thaksins latest interview with.... the ABC and him praising the "Australian"... he never was very fond of foreigners, by the way!

Not true.

the opposite is the case and the ultra right wing circles, national-socialist and other political extremists made a big issue if it that Thaksin (or later the PPP) was actually very fond of foreigners and international cooperation. Just look at the free trade agreements, the business he conduct with a singapire company, the cooparation with cambodia in the Unesco/Preah Vihear Temple case.

Yet again unmitigated nonsense. Tell you what, why not get the cat from your avatar to walk across the keys a few times, and post that. It's more likely to truthful and accurate then the dross you create.

Thaksin made a major play of his nationalist credentials, famously in the early days of his administration he gave a speech one day and then the local version which was, surprise couched in ultra-nationalist terms. He was furious when the international media picked up on the discrepancies. His Singapore business was linked to the technology requirement, and then subsequently to the reality that with Shin Corp on the block, only Tamasek was willing to undertake the critical all-share, all divisions deal which Thaksin needed.

The Chinese FTA, for example benefits some aspects of incoming foreign trade, ironically [or not] including the agricultural sector which has suffered badly from the FTA protected competition. Some might think that odd, given Pol Lt Col. Thaksin's enthusiasm for the assisting the poor. As to the Cambodian position, I'll say here that in my view supporting the World Heritage Site and working with them on this made a lot of sense, but it was poorly handled by the then ministers.

Regards

Why you bother I just don't know --- Thaksin played the xenophobe card from the creation of his political party 'Thai Rak Thai'. It played well to his target audience and to many other Thai people until they saw where he took it.

wow amazing, you can speak thai and translate the party name.

but naming their party 'Thai Rak Thai' makes them xenophobe?

Thais are very patriotic or nationalistic or whatever you want to call it and also sometimes pretty ignorant about the outside world. that isn't a trait you can find only in the Thaksin camp but in all mayor political groups.

The AntiThaksin forces, right wing extremists, pushed the nationalistic card to the extreme and became xenophobe in their aganda. look at the (verbal) attacks against singapore and cambodia

it happen right now again, look at the witch hunt of the foreign media or FM Kasits rants on foreign diplomats.

time to open your eyes, stop to fantasise and get real.

an extreme case of xenophobia are the some Thaksin haters at this board. every country, Thaksin is reported to visit, becomes a subject of their xenophobic rants and white man superiority complex. and very bizarre it gets when the same group rant about the red shirts using lot of racial slur words.