PM Abhisit Challenges Thaksin

[Humungus]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

Obviously, this website became a place for coloured (yellow or red) and frustrated, sometimes uncivilized, people.

Well, to ask you something STT:

I am not sure is Mr. Thaksin a coward or not but one thing is for sure and that is: you are really blind folded man.

Your hatred is infinitely boring.

Are you obsessed, some reason, by Mr. Thaksin that you can not spend just ONE single day to don't spit at that man?

Why don't you pet an animal man, instead?

Obviously you have too much of free time.

Above all, you are very incompetent, talking bad from your point of view which told me that you can not get rid of personal feelings about Thaksin.

I am sorry to say this but you are really frustrated by something that man do to you, right?

I just wonder: do you like so much Mr. Abhisit or you hate so much Mr.Thaksin, so you are writing like this every single day?

No hard feelings but i think you are obsessed.

Incredible person you are.

Why are you defending Thaksin is he paying you to do it? I'm not sure he's a coward, just a rich man who thinks he is above the law. Jatuporn didn't run away because he had immunity as an MP and got out right away. Taking part in a terrorist organization really is unbecoming of a member of parliament. By the way a blindfolded man, and a blind man who's been folded are quite different things.

[stepenwolf1958]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

[Humungus]

clearly demonstrate our political determination and capability to meet all the commitments

arising from our membership of INTERPOL and to give our contribution to the fight

against transnational crime, terrorism and other security challenges and threats

Address by Mr Milo Djukanovic, Prime Minister of Montenegro

26 May 2010, Budva, Montenegro

The Prime Minister on one hand promises to fight terrorism and on the other refuses to turn over Thaksin. Looks like double standards are the norm in Montenegro. I wonder how much it costs to bribe the PM there? Was it higher than Thaksin's usual rate?

You missunderstood those words.

There is no any request from Interpol, don't you know that?

So harboring a terrorist is just fine in Montenegro if INTERPOL isn't yet involved? I guess when INTERPOL does go looking for Thaksin Milo will cooperate fully. Any country which respects the rule of law and has any integrity would either turn Thaksin in or at the very least kick him out. You don't need to make a judgment on his guilt to send him home, you just have to respect the fact that he is accused of serious crimes and should answer for them in open court.

[Humungus]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

Is it only members of Thaksin's fan club that are allowed to talk? Good thing they aren't in charge then or freedom of speech wouldn't exist in any form. A warrant for his arrest for terrorism suggests that the Thai police or DSI has what it feels to be enough evidence to prove he is guilty. If your favorite billionaire can refute this evidence there is a perfect place for that, the courts. If you think that twitter is sufficient proof that he is innocent then maybe you shouldn't be talking either.

[jdinasia]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

There is an arrest warrant out for Thaksin for terrorism. Credible foreign reoporters has said that there is substantive evidence in the warrant. The formal request to Interpol has not been given yet. When it is then Djukanvic has 2 choices. He can harbour a criminal wanted for terrorism OR he can revoke Thaksin's citizenship and then extradite him.

[stepenwolf1958]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

Obviously, this website became a place for coloured (yellow or red) and frustrated, sometimes uncivilized, people.

Well, to ask you something STT:

I am not sure is Mr. Thaksin a coward or not but one thing is for sure and that is: you are really blind folded man.

Your hatred is infinitely boring.

Are you obsessed, some reason, by Mr. Thaksin that you can not spend just ONE single day to don't spit at that man?

Why don't you pet an animal man, instead?

Obviously you have too much of free time.

Above all, you are very incompetent, talking bad from your point of view which told me that you can not get rid of personal feelings about Thaksin.

I am sorry to say this but you are really frustrated by something that man do to you, right?

I just wonder: do you like so much Mr. Abhisit or you hate so much Mr.Thaksin, so you are writing like this every single day?

No hard feelings but i think you are obsessed.

Incredible person you are.

Why are you defending Thaksin is he paying you to do it? I'm not sure he's a coward, just a rich man who thinks he is above the law. Jatuporn didn't run away because he had immunity as an MP and got out right away. Taking part in a terrorist organization really is unbecoming of a member of parliament. By the way a blindfolded man, and a blind man who's been folded are quite different things.

Listen to me Humungus and any other here, who would think as you.

I am NOT for reds but i am not for yellows (not anymore, as i was when Mr. Abhisit had a campaign before elections).

Humungus, if you are Thai i would ask you to don't be so paranoid and to think any one who is not supporter of Mr. Abhisit (as you are) is against you or that one is paid by Mr. Thaksin to speak here.

I was always talking to foreigners here to stay aside, to don't be for reds or yellows.

Just to hope Thailand will not be in a civil war or something like that.

That is my point of view.

But yes,I dislike a method and way all was done in BKK but it is THAI business. They have right to do in way they want to. I can agree or disagree but i can not change it.

In my words you can not see that i like reds or yellows.

Stay well mate.

[stepenwolf1958]

clearly demonstrate our political determination and capability to meet all the commitments

arising from our membership of INTERPOL and to give our contribution to the fight

against transnational crime, terrorism and other security challenges and threats

Address by Mr Milo Djukanovic, Prime Minister of Montenegro

26 May 2010, Budva, Montenegro

The Prime Minister on one hand promises to fight terrorism and on the other refuses to turn over Thaksin. Looks like double standards are the norm in Montenegro. I wonder how much it costs to bribe the PM there? Was it higher than Thaksin's usual rate?

You missunderstood those words.

There is no any request from Interpol, don't you know that?

So harboring a terrorist is just fine in Montenegro if INTERPOL isn't yet involved? I guess when INTERPOL does go looking for Thaksin Milo will cooperate fully. Any country which respects the rule of law and has any integrity would either turn Thaksin in or at the very least kick him out. You don't need to make a judgment on his guilt to send him home, you just have to respect the fact that he is accused of serious crimes and should answer for them in open court.

Humungus, no hard feelings, ok? I want to say again.

NO ANY DIPLOMACY level between those 2 countries.

Next, what could make Montenegro government to do as Thai government would like?

Was here a court procces?

Was it proved at that court that Mr. Thaksin is a terrorist?

Thai government have some proof?

They show that to Montenegro government?

Thai government officially demanded from Montenegro?

Do you have any answer now Humungus?

It is NOT harbouring terrorists.

There is International Law and procedure is strict and clear.

The only ONE problem left and it is Montenegro passport.

As PM in Thailand says,will be harder to get the man IF he has Montenegro passport.

I say will be IMPOSSIBLE MISSION then.

Just watch.

And, do me a favour, never, i mean it, say again that i am paid from anyone.

I will not tolerate you insult me again, get that?

[Humungus]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

Obviously, this website became a place for coloured (yellow or red) and frustrated, sometimes uncivilized, people.

Well, to ask you something STT:

I am not sure is Mr. Thaksin a coward or not but one thing is for sure and that is: you are really blind folded man.

Your hatred is infinitely boring.

Are you obsessed, some reason, by Mr. Thaksin that you can not spend just ONE single day to don't spit at that man?

Why don't you pet an animal man, instead?

Obviously you have too much of free time.

Above all, you are very incompetent, talking bad from your point of view which told me that you can not get rid of personal feelings about Thaksin.

I am sorry to say this but you are really frustrated by something that man do to you, right?

I just wonder: do you like so much Mr. Abhisit or you hate so much Mr.Thaksin, so you are writing like this every single day?

No hard feelings but i think you are obsessed.

Incredible person you are.

Why are you defending Thaksin is he paying you to do it? I'm not sure he's a coward, just a rich man who thinks he is above the law. Jatuporn didn't run away because he had immunity as an MP and got out right away. Taking part in a terrorist organization really is unbecoming of a member of parliament. By the way a blindfolded man, and a blind man who's been folded are quite different things.

Listen to me Humungus and any other here, who would think as you.

I am NOT for reds but i am not for yellows (not anymore, as i was when Mr. Abhisit had a campaign before elections).

Humungus, if you are Thai i would ask you to don't be so paranoid and to think any one who is not supporter of Mr. Abhisit (as you are) is against you or that one is paid by Mr. Thaksin to speak here.

I was always talking to foreigners here to stay aside, to don't be for reds or yellows.

Just to hope Thailand will not be in a civil war or something like that.

That is my point of view.

But yes,I dislike a method and way all was done in BKK but it is THAI business. They have right to do in way they want to. I can agree or disagree but i can not change it.

In my words you can not see that i like reds or yellows.

Stay well mate.

Why get angry because I think you are pro Thaksin and then decide that you can tell me who I support? As for the rest of your post if I had any idea what you were saying I'd respond.

[mazeltov]

Interpol says no call received to arrest Thaksin

(AFP) – 10 hours ago

LYON, France — Cross-border police agency Interpol said Friday it had received no request to track fugitive Thai ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra and that it would not arrest him on purely "political" grounds.

Thailand said Thursday it would request Interpol's co-operation after it issued an arrest warrant on terrorism charges for Thaksin, whom it accuses of funding protests that led to deadly clashes in Bangkok in recent months.

Interpol's headquarters in Lyon, France, quoted its Secretary General Ronald Noble as saying he had "no knowledge" yet of an official demand from Bangkok for help in the case.

If such a demand were made it would be subject to Interpol's "normal procedure" and referred to the agency's judicial advisers.

A spokesman for Interpol, which helps coordinate investigations between its 188 member countries, told AFP that its statutes forbid it to ask its member states to carry out arrests of a "political nature".

Thaksin was ousted in a 2006 coup and later went into exile to avoid a jail term for corruption. He has been living mainly in Dubai, with visits to other countries including Montenegro, France and Britain.

The Thai government accuses him of inciting unrest and bankrolling rallies by "Red Shirt" opposition protesters which have sparked deadly outbreaks of violence.

Thai deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban said on Thursday that a request for Interpol's help would be sent "so any country that knows of his whereabouts can notify Thailand, so Thailand can begin the extradition procedure".

Thaksin said in a radio interview Wednesday that Interpol would recognise the accusations were "politically motivated".

-- ©Copyright AFP May 28, 2010

Published with written approval from AFP.

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Excellent.. More loss of face to the Thai government. When will these clowns be put out of their misery I wonder?

the whole Interpol thing is just silly propaganda to keep the gullible antiThaksin obsessed tuned in.

Funny is to check the old forum threads who fell for it all the time. the dream that Interpol will get Thaksin isn't actually that new NEWS, but something that never came true since over one year. true believers are still full of hope. 55555

[Skywalker69]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

I find it puzzling that the Thai gov. let Thaksin leave the country before initiating their coup. The ideal thing would be to wait until he returns then arrest him.

Whom was running the country when Mr.T was running of to Beijing Olympics????

[Humungus]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

I find it puzzling that the Thai gov. let Thaksin leave the country before initiating their coup. The ideal thing would be to wait until he returns then arrest him.

Whom was running the country when Mr.T was running of to Beijing Olympics????

What? The Beijing olympics were in 2008, 2 years after the coup, so Mr. T wasn't running the country, unless you mean through his puppets. Did that post make sense to anyone I'm confused.

[stepenwolf1958]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

There is an arrest warrant out for Thaksin for terrorism. Credible foreign reoporters has said that there is substantive evidence in the warrant. The formal request to Interpol has not been given yet. When it is then Djukanvic has 2 choices. He can harbour a criminal wanted for terrorism OR he can revoke Thaksin's citizenship and then extradite him.

At last. I agree with you so we have to wait FORMAL request to Interpol.

I just don't know Interpol will need some court verdict or will be enough what Thai Police said in warrant.

What reporters? They said that in medias or as a gossip? If in medias, post me a link, please.

I agree about 2 choices you said. But there is situation that Mr. Abhisit said will make all be harder. Passport of Montenegro.

[Skywalker69]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

I find it puzzling that the Thai gov. let Thaksin leave the country before initiating their coup. The ideal thing would be to wait until he returns then arrest him.

Whom was running the country when Mr.T was running of to Beijing Olympics????

What? The Beijing olympics were in 2008, 2 years after the coup, so Mr. T wasn't running the country, unless you mean through his puppets. Did that post make sense to anyone I'm confused.

Sorry I missred the comments!

[mazeltov]

Thaksin is afraid of jail - he's a coward, and all cowards are weak in the face of real adversity. Look at the Red leaders (With the exception of Nattawut and Jatuporn - the only 2 who didn't run away)

I find it puzzling that the Thai gov. let Thaksin leave the country before initiating their coup. The ideal thing would be to wait until he returns then arrest him.

Whom was running the country when Mr.T was running of to Beijing Olympics????

What? The Beijing olympics were in 2008, 2 years after the coup, so Mr. T wasn't running the country, unless you mean through his puppets. Did that post make sense to anyone I'm confused.

if the government don't put itself with some special emergencies decrees in uberpower it is the decicion of an independent court to let Thaksin travel or not. an independent court who act according to the book of laws and not on behalf of any political party who leads the government.

[Humungus]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

There is an arrest warrant out for Thaksin for terrorism. Credible foreign reoporters has said that there is substantive evidence in the warrant. The formal request to Interpol has not been given yet. When it is then Djukanvic has 2 choices. He can harbour a criminal wanted for terrorism OR he can revoke Thaksin's citizenship and then extradite him.

At last. I agree with you so we have to wait FORMAL request to Interpol.

I just don't know Interpol will need some court verdict or will be enough what Thai Police said in warrant.

What reporters? They said that in medias or as a gossip? If in medias, post me a link, please.

I agree about 2 choices you said. But there is situation that Mr. Abhisit said will make all be harder. Passport of Montenegro.

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

[MAJIC]

If Abhisit would just return to his country of birth and stay there, Thailand could go forward with its long, long reconciliation phase. With the waters polluted with the hi-so hate-speech of Abhisit, Kasit and others, nothing good can happen.

What hate speeches are you referring to? and can you supply them or give the source?

[lungmi]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

Montenegro is a well known country for international refugees (criminals, terrorists). You can buy the citizenship with money. Thaksin did it. But Montenegro has a problem: The EU. With this politics Montenegro never will be full member of the EU.

[stepenwolf1958]

[There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

There is an arrest warrant out for Thaksin for terrorism. Credible foreign reoporters has said that there is substantive evidence in the warrant. The formal request to Interpol has not been given yet. When it is then Djukanvic has 2 choices. He can harbour a criminal wanted for terrorism OR he can revoke Thaksin's citizenship and then extradite him.

At last. I agree with you so we have to wait FORMAL request to Interpol.

I just don't know Interpol will need some court verdict or will be enough what Thai Police said in warrant.

What reporters? They said that in medias or as a gossip? If in medias, post me a link, please.

I agree about 2 choices you said. But there is situation that Mr. Abhisit said will make all be harder. Passport of Montenegro.

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

So, in your country if some other country ask from your government some of your citizens - that one will be extradited?

For your government would be well enogh to do it if there is just arrest warrant?

Your government will do that without any proof? Just because of arrest warrant and accusation?

I am trying to imagine if that happened in England, England would extradite any citizen for request of some banana republic, let's say in Africa, just based on arrest warrant of Police in that country? eVEN IF EVERY ONE KNOWS THERE pOLICE AND PAPER CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY ONE?

I doubt.

There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country.

Accusations about terrorism are very seripous and is not enoughsomeone just said that in arrest warrang.

Something more heaVY IS NEEDED, I THINK.

[mazeltov]

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

Thaksin travels. He isn't only in Montenegro. So the authorities of other countries where he travels to could still extradite him.

read the old news from last year:

Thailand Revokes Thaksin's Passport, Arrest Warrant Issued For Thaksin Over Bangkok Riots

did anything happen since then?

[stepenwolf1958]

To Humungus

So, in your country if some other country ask from your government some of your citizens - that one will be extradited?

For your government would be well enogh to do it if there is just arrest warrant?

Your government will do that without any proof? Just because of arrest warrant and accusation?

I am trying to imagine if that happened in England, England would extradite any citizen for request of some banana republic, let's say in Africa, just based on arrest warrant of Police in that country? eVEN IF EVERY ONE KNOWS THERE pOLICE AND PAPER CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY ONE?

I doubt.

There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country.

Accusations about terrorism are very seripous and is not enoughsomeone just said that in arrest warrang.

Something more heavy is needed, i think.

[stepenwolf1958]

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

Thaksin travels. He isn't only in Montenegro. So the authorities of other countries where he travels to could still extradite him.

read the old news from last year:

Thailand Revokes Thaksin's Passport, Arrest Warrant Issued For Thaksin Over Bangkok Riots

did anything happen since then?

BRAVO maestro.

Right in the eyeball.

[Humungus]

To Humungus

So, in your country if some other country ask from your government some of your citizens - that one will be extradited?

For your government would be well enogh to do it if there is just arrest warrant?

Your government will do that without any proof? Just because of arrest warrant and accusation?

I am trying to imagine if that happened in England, England would extradite any citizen for request of some banana republic, let's say in Africa, just based on arrest warrant of Police in that country? eVEN IF EVERY ONE KNOWS THERE pOLICE AND PAPER CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY ONE?

I doubt.

There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country.

Accusations about terrorism are very seripous and is not enoughsomeone just said that in arrest warrang.

Something more heavy is needed, i think.

Yes, in my country if someone commits a crime against another country they can be sent to face the charges in the other country. That's what extradition treaties are all about. They are agreements between countries to respect each others' laws and deport persons to prevent them from hiding from justice. An arrest warrant is what is needed to take someone to court, that is where guilt is determined. I'm sorry you have so little respect for Thailand that you think its institutions are a joke and that they are unable to seek justice for the murder of their own citizens. Arrest warrants are usually based on evidence meaning a judge is convinced that there are grounds to bring charges against that person. I'm not sure what more you want or what is heavy enough for you. Maybe you are waiting for a videotaped confession, but that is not necessary, although some of Thaksin's videochats might be just that. Arrest warrants for Terrorism aren't just purchased at 7-11 and are not something to be taken lightly by other nations.

[noahvail]

quote 'stepenwolf1958' date='2010-05-29 20:28:29' post='3652088'

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

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So, in your country if some other country ask from your government some of your citizens - that one will be extradited?

For your government would be well enogh to do it if there is just arrest warrant?

Your government will do that without any proof? Just because of arrest warrant and accusation?

I am trying to imagine if that happened in England, England would extradite any citizen for request of some banana republic, let's say in Africa, just based on arrest warrant of Police in that country? eVEN IF EVERY ONE KNOWS THERE pOLICE AND PAPER CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY ONE?

I doubt.

There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country.

Accusations about terrorism are very seripous and is not enoughsomeone just said that in arrest warrang.

Something more heaVY IS NEEDED, I THINK.

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If Mr Thaksin returned to Thailand to answer the warrant and stand trial on the charge of terrorism, which warrant has been already by an appropriate court of justice in Thailand, there would be no need for Interpol.

Since there are many unsavoury characters out there who flee from all sorts of nefarious crimes to different countries before they are brought to trial, Interpol is needed to track them down and arrest them on behalf of the country that issued the warrant. They are then turned over to the authorities in the country in which he was arrested.

Before they are extradited though, the detainee is permitted to appeal his extradition in the country he was captured in by Interpol. The country in which he was arrested will search through the documents behind the warrant to determine whether it deems the warrant proper and within the bounds of the laws of the arresting country and the warrant-issuing country. The country will then fight against the appeal for extradition. A former Thai financier spent 10 years in Canada appealing his extradition. It can be a lengthy process, especially if you have the money to afford the best lawyers and keep appealing, eventually to the highest court in the land.

I hope that made sense to you. Interpol only needs a warrant from a country to arrest the person named in the warrant; then they turn him over to the proper authorities to the country he was arrested in. It is not Interpol's job to determine if the warrant is baseless, proper, or anything else - once they receive the warrant, their job is to arrest the named person and hand them over to the proper authorities.

By the way, could you please use proper quotations? It's too much like work to go back and figure out who got quoted where, so people can get confused. Thanks...

[Humungus]

1. Person commits crime

2. Police investigate gather evidence

3. Based on evidence police obtain arrest warrant

4. Person is arrested

4a. If person is in another country local police may arrest him

4b Extradition process occurs

5. Trial

6. Guilt is determined

7 Sentencing if necessary

Usual course of a police investigation and subsequent trial, not sure why it's so difficult to understand.

[Humungus]

"There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country."

What? What crime was committed by an English person against England in this case? Do you mean that Montenegro should try Thaksin for Terrorism because he has their passport? That isn't where the crimes were committed. I'm baffled.

[MAJIC]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

Montenegro is a well known country for international refugees (criminals, terrorists). You can buy the citizenship with money. Thaksin did it. But Montenegro has a problem: The EU. With this politics Montenegro never will be full member of the EU.

Yes and their case for the final vote on being accepted for entry comes up in 2012

Guess harbouring fugitives will not help one bit,they always put stipulations on Membership,ie Turkey has to clean up its

Country of mass copying everthing before the vote.

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0o...AFMn3YB2ZVLBQx.?

p=montenegro+eec+membership+2012&fr2=sb-top&fr=cb-hp06&type=ie2008&rd=r1&sao=1

[Humungus]

There are more people living in the city of Chiang Mai than the entire country of Montenegro. So sad they can't go in there and get the Thai terrorist there.

Can you prove that he is a terrorist? If you can not, just don't talk, ok?

How do you know he is a terrorist? Just because you saw that on some TV or newspaper?

What did you say? To go to Montenegro to arrest any one there?

Are you joking me?

You mean to send some Thai people there to arrest Mr. Thaksin there??? In your dream.

Do you know anything about people in Montenegro? If you know, you would not spreading here fiddlesticks and talking funny things.

Mr. Djukanovic is far away from to be as some stupid man who would do what Thais want he do - just because they would like to get Mr. Thaksin. No reason to do it. No any prove, no any request from Interpol was given to Montenegro so why he would do it?

He was very clear that they will react and help if there is any requirement from Interpol.

Montenegro is a well known country for international refugees (criminals, terrorists). You can buy the citizenship with money. Thaksin did it. But Montenegro has a problem: The EU. With this politics Montenegro never will be full member of the EU.

Yes and their case for the final vote on being accepted for entry comes up in 2012

Guess harbouring fugitives will not help one bit,they always put stipulations on Membership,ie Turkey has to clean up its

Country of mass copying everthing before the vote.

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0o...AFMn3YB2ZVLBQx.?

p=montenegro+eec+membership+2012&fr2=sb-top&fr=cb-hp06&type=ie2008&rd=r1&sao=1

Hopefully Montenegro will just squeeze as much cash out of Thaksin as they can, then ship him back to Thailand broke and used up.

[lannarebirth]

INTERPOL is an international police unit. They don't render verdicts, they arrest people with outstanding warrants and let courts come up with verdicts. It is quite common for a national of one country to commit a crime in another country. The passport they hold doesn't prevent them from being tried in the country they committed the crime against. Thaksin could be a native born Montenegrin and he could still be tried in Thailand for terrorism. Osama Bin Laden is Saudi, but the USA would love to put him on trial. The only difficulty comes if Montenegro says "we love terrorism and we will protect Thaksin and refuse to extradite him because he is so rich and awesome". That sort of attitude can come back to bite Montenegro when they require international cooperation.

Thaksin travels. He isn't only in Montenegro. So the authorities of other countries where he travels to could still extradite him.

read the old news from last year:

Thailand Revokes Thaksin's Passport, Arrest Warrant Issued For Thaksin Over Bangkok Riots

did anything happen since then?

C'mon Mazeltov, give me a clue as to how I should regard you. What do you think of young Devakula?

[MAJIC]

To Humungus

So, in your country if some other country ask from your government some of your citizens - that one will be extradited?

For your government would be well enogh to do it if there is just arrest warrant?

Your government will do that without any proof? Just because of arrest warrant and accusation?

I am trying to imagine if that happened in England, England would extradite any citizen for request of some banana republic, let's say in Africa, just based on arrest warrant of Police in that country? eVEN IF EVERY ONE KNOWS THERE pOLICE AND PAPER CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY ONE?

I doubt.

There is always a chance to make a trial in England to English citizens and that is what would and should do any country.

Accusations about terrorism are very seripous and is not enoughsomeone just said that in arrest warrang.

Something more heavy is needed, i think.

If he was allowed to come back into England then he could not possibly be Tried under the English legal system.

We do have a Extradition Treaty with Thailand since around 1925,so its highly unlikely he will think of applying for

refuge there,except if he decided to sail close to the wind,knowing that we do not send criminals back to a country that

has the death sentence. either.

Also his entry Visa was cancelled the last time he left the UK.and it would be surprising to see him even allowed back in.

Extradition requests are not automatically granted,suitable evidence would also be needed.But if Terrorism could be

proven,that may be another matter.

[mikehock]

^ Agreed, in 10 years or less, he could be a serious contender to be PM. Is he going to be a candidate in the upcoming elections?

Of course, he is going to have to get over his habit of opening his mouth and inserting his foot!

As i recall, he ran in elections for Bangkok Governor. Anyone know how many votes he won?

The winner MR Sukhumbhand with 920,980 votes.

Next best was actor-turned-politician Mr Yuranunt with 603,414 votes, followed by the independent candidates ML Nattakorn Devakula with 329,717, Kaewsun Atibhodhi with 142,334 and Leena Jangjanja on 8,905

pretty much a case of the lights are on but no ones at home

certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed