Hi there

Just wanna ask , why is it when i am browsing the internet surfing a certain website , some of the site dont works without www. and some needs www. totally to access the site / confuse here.

what are the different with and without www

You can set up the DNS record for anything that ends with your domain name.

Simplified example like this:

www.yourdomain.com to your webserver

home.yourdomain.com to you home server if you have one

and you can have a

yourdomain.com that point to you webserver

Some people don't have the last one...

Martin

domain.com is the "base" domain name. That can be used for different things such as

mail.domain.com for a mail server

webmail.domain.com for webmail access

www.domain.com for websites

To not just leave domain.com floating around that's typically pointed to the website as well

No particular reason

Yeap, you just gotta put www in front of some web site addresses to reach them. Guess it just how a website's address may be loaded in a DNS...maybe some websites are only listed the www as part of the address/name while others are listed both ways (with and without the www) so you can reach them with or without the www. I've generally been in the habit so long just typing the www when manually entering a web address (unless I know its a unique address like a mail server) that the with or without www issue rarely causes me any "can't find/reach that link" issues. Cheers.

You should be able to reach a site without the www, if you can't then the site is poorly configured. These days, a lot of people can't be bothered typing http://www... its a waste of time.

Typing in www can be pretty stressful.

Typing in www can be pretty stressful.

Sometimes not typing in the www can be more stressful. I've seen cases where I have been directed to a rogue site.

Typing in www can be pretty stressful.

Sometimes not typing in the www can be more stressful. I've seen cases where I have been directed to a rogue site.

Big 10-4....Amen Brother on that!

It is possible to have 2 completely different sites. some.net and www.some.com for example. Think of it as 2 seperate buildings at the one street number/ www goes to one and without www it goes to the other.

It is possible to have 2 completely different sites. some.net and www.some.com for example. Think of it as 2 seperate buildings at the one street number/ www goes to one and without www it goes to the other.

You can have as many as you like...

It is possible to have 2 completely different sites. some.net and www.some.com for example. Think of it as 2 seperate buildings at the one street number/ www goes to one and without www it goes to the other.

You can have as many as you like...

true if you make subdomains. I did not want to confuse him by going beyond his question.

Unless there is a reason NOT to do it, all non-www url's should be redirected to the www url nowadays (or vice-versa), otherwise you are making it difficult for people to find your site and potentially losing out on any SEO benefits thru the likes of Google which "could" treat both url's as separate domains and split page-ranking between them.

A typical way to ensure that visitors to the url "thaivisa.com" always go to "www.thaivisa.com" would be some code in your .htaccess file such as:

Options +FollowSymLinks

RewriteEngine on

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^thaivisa.com [NC]

RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.thaivisa.com/$1 [L,R=301]

Tats

Thank you for the replies, i have alittle problem with my own site, which i cant access it with www. while friends from other countries could access it with www. and without www.

Thank you for the replies, i have alittle problem with my own site, which i cant access it with www. while friends from other countries could access it with www. and without www.

That's definitely a DNS problem. Try to change your DNS settings, use opendns for example

Thank you for the replies, i have alittle problem with my own site, which i cant access it with www. while friends from other countries could access it with www. and without www.

That's definitely a DNS problem. Try to change your DNS settings, use opendns for example

yup ive just cheked ip and call up True Internet its a DNS problem, i change it to Google DNS and Open DNS and its good, However True internet gave me a DNS too and ask me to try 203.144.207.29 & 203.144.207.49< sometimes it works sometimes my site can get access at all.

Looking into alternative way to change Internet ISP

If you registered the www subdomain just recently, consider that DNS changes may take a while to come into effect. Maybe TRUE has slower update intervals.

Sometimes not typing in the www can be more stressful. I've seen cases where I have been directed to a rogue site.

That surprises me. The www subdomain usually 'belongs' to the same owner as the the main domain, not easy to 'hijack' either one. Of course an attacker might hack the web server and choose to only manipulate the non-www domain in order to hide the attack for a longer period of time (allowing to misdirect/attack a larger number of users)

What is common practice is to register rogue or advertisement domains for mistyped domain names, e.g. thaivisas(dot)com

welo

If you registered the www subdomain just recently, consider that DNS changes may take a while to come into effect. Maybe TRUE has slower update intervals.

Sometimes not typing in the www can be more stressful. I've seen cases where I have been directed to a rogue site.

That surprises me. The www subdomain usually 'belongs' to the same owner as the the main domain, not easy to 'hijack' either one. Of course an attacker might hack the web server and choose to only manipulate the non-www domain in order to hide the attack for a longer period of time (allowing to misdirect/attack a larger number of users)

What is common practice is to register rogue or advertisement domains for mistyped domain names, e.g. thaivisas(dot)com

welo

Usually this is done by the hosting provider...a less reputable one sells the redirect. In my case www goes to my site but no www leads to the providers advertising page.

Thanks, didn't know that.

You mean a hosting provider redirects the main domain to a 3rd party!? That's gross!

Redirecting to the provider's own web page, even that seems unethical to me, but if there is a monetary benefit I could see why people agree to it. However, I wouldn't. My content, my domain, my page rank!

welo

Sounds like the internet continues to turn into a stock market of sorts with many different ways being dreamed up every day to make money off every bit that flows over the internet.

If you registered the www subdomain just recently, consider that DNS changes may take a while to come into effect. Maybe TRUE has slower update intervals.

Sometimes not typing in the www can be more stressful. I've seen cases where I have been directed to a rogue site.

That surprises me. The www subdomain usually 'belongs' to the same owner as the the main domain, not easy to 'hijack' either one. Of course an attacker might hack the web server and choose to only manipulate the non-www domain in order to hide the attack for a longer period of time (allowing to misdirect/attack a larger number of users)

What is common practice is to register rogue or advertisement domains for mistyped domain names, e.g. thaivisas(dot)com

welo

Usually this is done by the hosting provider...a less reputable one sells the redirect. In my case www goes to my site but no www leads to the providers advertising page.

I have seen this kind of stuff, they lock you up by not letting you own the domain name and when you want to change the web host you have to wait forever... until they decide they don't need your domain anymore...years

...here is how to avoid it. I have probably posted this before but I think it need to be repeated...

You need three components.

1. Domain

2. DNS records

3. Hosts

Buy the domain from one company (registrar). I use http://www.verio.com and http://www.domainbank.com but there are others, I don't recommend any of these more than others.

Buy a DNS service from a second company or use a free one. afraid.org is what I use, again there are others and this is not a recommendation.

Buy the hosting from a third company.

Register your DNS servers IP at the company where you bought your domain, They usually have an admin page for this.

Register the IP of your hosts (webservers and mailservers) at the DNS service. (this is called DNS records)

If any of the involved companies have any objection to this, ditch them.

The point of this is to stay independent of any of these companies. If the webhost is bad just point your DNS record to a new one. If the DNS server has a problem, use a new one.

The registrar, the first company that you bought the domain from is really not doing much... they usually don't cause you much problems either, but you can transfer the domain to a new registrar whenever you like...

Martin