Thai King Permits Queensland, Australia, To Use His Artificial Rainmaking Technology

[wlcart]

I wish I understood more about what a patent on a procedure means?

I understand when a patent covers something for sale, or in a movie, or other productions. But if scientist read a book that tells them to fly planes in a certain way and seed clouds in a certain way, and then the scientist fly out and follow that procedure, how does the patent cover that?

Can a basketball player patent a slam dunk that prevents another player from going to the rim? can a dancer patent a disco move I see on mtv and stop me from busting that move on the dance floor? How does that work?

I am not trying to take anything away from his accomplishments. HM the King is obviously a kind, intelligent and considerate man who focused on very relative issues for his country. I just don't understand how a patent of this sort is enforced or interpreted.

[Hardie]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

Edited August 6, 2010 by sbk
discussion of deleted post removed

[Goshawk]

long live the King... a Great man indeed..

[sbk]

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[Goshawk]

i'll bet Russia could sure use HM The King's invention right now.. what with the unprecidented heatwave and all..

[David006]

I wish I understood more about what a patent on a procedure means?

I understand when a patent covers something for sale, or in a movie, or other productions. But if scientist read a book that tells them to fly planes in a certain way and seed clouds in a certain way, and then the scientist fly out and follow that procedure, how does the patent cover that?

Can a basketball player patent a slam dunk that prevents another player from going to the rim? can a dancer patent a disco move I see on mtv and stop me from busting that move on the dance floor? How does that work?

I am not trying to take anything away from his accomplishments. HM the King is obviously a kind, intelligent and considerate man who focused on very relative issues for his country. I just don't understand how a patent of this sort is enforced or interpreted.

exactly my thoughts.patents do expire think its up to 20 years depending on the type?...

..there is a lot of contention in the Australian scientific community as to the effectiveness of the ground based technology..certainly kudos is due to HM for his hands on support of the Thai development..the "patent" was probably to advertise the Thai contribution and rightly so.the "letter" would seem to be a highly respectful request to further enhance and secure the excellent Thai Australian relations.

Lets hope that the Thai approach will bring some relief to the "lucky" country....

[moetownblues]

It is a good thing to help the Austrailian drought..

Long live His Majesty

Queensland have had massive floods the last few years. What drought? It is places like southern NSW nd Victoria that have been effected by drought for the last 10 yrs.

[James22]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

[moetownblues]

"The Premier stated in HIS letter" ummmmmmmmmmm I thought the Quessland premier was a Ms Anna Bligh

That is true the Premier is a woman. So many holes in this story Queensland has had flooding for the last few years. Makes this story hard to believe.

Just for the thai media if you are writing a story concerning the Prime Minister of Australia SHE is a Woman aso.

[chantorn]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

[Hardie]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

Knowledge is more important than nationalism. There are many patents for many innovations. Some are more important than others. Cloud seeding was common around my home in the '60's. It's not any more.

[RedBullHorn]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

Loyalty is a good thing, it's so typical of Thai to think narrowly about everything theirs are good and better especially when his majesty the king endoses or develop it. Blocking or banning for not agreeing to something is to have a narrow mind set. When a method are patent, it's for the purpose of following the exact proper procedure of execution, not just for name and glories.

Knowledge is more important than nationalism. There are many patents for many innovations. Some are more important than others. Cloud seeding was common around my home in the '60's. It's not any more.

well said, the method in which his majesty the king patents in cloud seeding are to be use in a certain environmental conditions i think.

Edited August 7, 2010 by RedBullHorn

[moetownblues]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Really? Can you name a few fr us excluding those below because they are Australian inventions.

Bonic ear, Pace maker, black box flight recorder, refrigeration, elect drill, petrol lawn mower, penecillin, IVF, Xerox photocopier, Asprin, Spray on skin, Internet wifi, motion pictures, just to name a few.

lets not forget the boomerang, Australian rules football, meat pies and the wine cask.

Ok now for those famous thai inventions

I will get you started

Thai food, Thai people,

[Hawk]

Does anyone know if this differs from cloud seeding, and if so how ?

Just wondering

http://en.wikipedia....i/Cloud_seeding

Same technology as the Americans invented, just a different name, therefore no difference.

[Hawk]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

Yes, I do care to disagree, as I know exactly where the technology for rain making originated and it wasn't in Thailand.

You can joint the government team as they like blocking all and everything that doesn't correspond with their world view.

[Hawk]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Som tam. That's a biggie.

Thai massage. Very famous

Thai boxing. World renowned after Kung <deleted> and Karate.

And what else? Give me a lot of time to think up something else.

[moetownblues]

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<br />Does anyone know if this differs from cloud seeding, and if so how ?<br /><br />Just wondering <img src='http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /><br /><br /><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://en.wikipedia....i/Cloud_seeding</a><br /><br />Add: Seems hansum already onto it.<br />

<br /><br /> It is a modified version of Cloud Seeding. Here is the Patent #1491088. <br /><br /><br />

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This is invented by the King of Thailand. Others are just copy cat.

Vincent Schaefer (1906–1993) discovered the principle of cloud seeding in July 1946 through a series of serendipitous events.

King Bhumibol has devoted himself to study and develop the artificial rain technique since 1955

I am confused who was it that actually did it?

[muddyhoop]

I think you need to double check what you believe are Australian inventions.

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Really? Can you name a few fr us excluding those below because they are Australian inventions.

Bonic ear, Pace maker, black box flight recorder, refrigeration, elect drill, petrol lawn mower, penecillin, IVF, Xerox photocopier, Asprin, Spray on skin, Internet wifi, motion pictures, just to name a few.

lets not forget the boomerang, Australian rules football, meat pies and the wine cask.

Ok now for those famous thai inventions

I will get you started

Thai food, Thai people,

[moetownblues]

I think you need to double check what you believe are Australian inventions.

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Really? Can you name a few fr us excluding those below because they are Australian inventions.

Bonic ear, Pace maker, black box flight recorder, refrigeration, elect drill, petrol lawn mower, penecillin, IVF, Xerox photocopier, Asprin, Spray on skin, Internet wifi, motion pictures, just to name a few.

lets not forget the boomerang, Australian rules football, meat pies and the wine cask.

Ok now for those famous thai inventions

I will get you started

Thai food, Thai people,

you tell me which aren't and I'll prove you wrong

[cmsally]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Som tam. That's a biggie.

Thai massage. Very famous

Thai boxing. World renowned after Kung &lt;deleted&gt; and Karate.

And what else? Give me a lot of time to think up something else.

How about those metal thingys that scrape the husks off coconuts!

Seriously I hope some of these posters are being sarcastic. I think I have inhaled more coffee than I have swallowed this morning!

[muddyhoop]

Well I was taught that Penicillin was "discovered" and later developed for use in Oxford by Flemming, Sheehan and Moyer

However maybe penecillin is an Australian invention I have never heard of?

I think you need to double check what you believe are Australian inventions.

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Really? Can you name a few fr us excluding those below because they are Australian inventions.

Bonic ear, Pace maker, black box flight recorder, refrigeration, elect drill, petrol lawn mower, penecillin, IVF, Xerox photocopier, Asprin, Spray on skin, Internet wifi, motion pictures, just to name a few.

lets not forget the boomerang, Australian rules football, meat pies and the wine cask.

Ok now for those famous thai inventions

I will get you started

Thai food, Thai people,

you tell me which aren't and I'll prove you wrong

[RedBullHorn]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

Yes, I do care to disagree, as I know exactly where the technology for rain making originated and it wasn't in Thailand.

You can joint the government team as they like blocking all and everything that doesn't correspond with their world view.

Come on Hawk, read them carefully, she said the term "Royal Rain or Fon Luang", They're indeed a process develop by his majesty and indeed patent under his majesty's name.

She didn't said cloud-seeding technology was invented by his majesty~ so she right~~~

She can read and write English alright but her map of the world is only Thailand and of course...the globe is flat~

Edited August 7, 2010 by RedBullHorn

[harrry]

Howard Walter Florey, Baron Florey OM, FRS (24 September 1898 – 21 February 1968) was an Australian pharmacologist and pathologist who shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1945 with Ernst Boris Chain and Sir Alexander Fleming for his role in the extraction of penicillin. Florey's discoveries are estimated to have saved over 80 million lives, worldwide.[1] Florey is regarded by the Australian scientific and medical community as probably[weasel words] its greatest scientist. Sir Robert Menzies, Australia's longest-serving Prime Minister, said that "in terms of world well-being, Florey was the most important man ever born in Australia".[citation needed]

[muddyhoop]

Dr. Howard Florey, a future Nobel Laureate, and three colleagues at Oxford University began intensive research and were able to demonstrate penicillin's ability to kill infectious bacteria...... so I still fail to see how you think Penicillin is an Australian invention!

Howard Walter Florey, Baron Florey OM, FRS (24 September 1898 – 21 February 1968) was an Australian pharmacologist and pathologist who shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1945 with Ernst Boris Chain and Sir Alexander Fleming for his role in the extraction of penicillin. Florey's discoveries are estimated to have saved over 80 million lives, worldwide.[1] Florey is regarded by the Australian scientific and medical community as probably[weasel words] its greatest scientist. Sir Robert Menzies, Australia's longest-serving Prime Minister, said that "in terms of world well-being, Florey was the most important man ever born in Australia".[citation needed]

[Hawk]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Som tam. That's a biggie.

Thai massage. Very famous

Thai boxing. World renowned after Kung &lt;deleted&gt; and Karate.

And what else? Give me a lot of time to think up something else.

How about those metal thingys that scrape the husks off coconuts!

Seriously I hope some of these posters are being sarcastic. I think I have inhaled more coffee than I have swallowed this morning!

Right, a very useful invention used world wide for getting helmets of motorcycle accident victims.

[Hawk]

I'm sure the king's efforts are appreciated by all, including the scientific community. Nevertheless cloud-seeding programs have been undertaken in many countries for many years, with inconclusive results... at best. In a lengthy article on the subject in Encyclopedia Britannia, Thailand is not mentioned once.

It is time to ban and block Encyclopedia Britannia for not telling the truth.

Everyone here agrees 100% that "Royal Rain or Fon Luang" is a process developed by our Thai King, and there is a patent under his name.

Care to disagree?

Yes, I do care to disagree, as I know exactly where the technology for rain making originated and it wasn't in Thailand.

You can joint the government team as they like blocking all and everything that doesn't correspond with their world view.

Come on Hawk, read them carefully, she said the term "Royal Rain or Fon Luang", They're indeed a process develop by his majesty and indeed patent under his majesty's name.

She didn't said cloud-seeding technology was invented by his majesty~ so she right~~~

She can read and write English alright but her map of the world is only Thailand and of course...the globe is flat~

Yes, I did read what she said carefully, I was trying to make a point without getting banned by suggesting that the method used here in Thailand is exactly the same as the method used in the US during the 50s and was given to the Thai government during the 60s for military purposes. All the patents for the Thai rain making were issued in Europe, there is no American patent for Thailand.

[RedBullHorn]

Hawk, don't bother. Just let her be in the denial state she prefered, like the flaps that cover the side of the horses eyes...look straight ahead, limiting the view angle.

[moetownblues]

I agree with SamritTthat many ofthe worlds greatest inventions come from Thailand

Som tam. That's a biggie.

Thai massage. Very famous

Thai boxing. World renowned after Kung &lt;deleted&gt; and Karate.

And what else? Give me a lot of time to think up something else.

How about those metal thingys that scrape the husks off coconuts!

Seriously I hope some of these posters are being sarcastic. I think I have inhaled more coffee than I have swallowed this morning!

There is a thread on here called "Thai Inventions are there any" It has been running since 2004 and after much discussion still nobody has come with a Thai Invention.

[toptuan]

Two suggestions:

1) Please stay on topic (rainmaking in Thailand). If you want to talk Thai inventions in general, please refer to the thread mentioned.

2) Refrain from any disparaging remarks concerning rainmaking/patenting in Thailand because of its close association with the monarchy.

Thank you,

Toptuan

For the Moderating Team

[Hardie]

Yeah, there's no competition here, and the fact that someone's promoting Australia's accomplishments shows that we're all guilty of some nationalism, which is OK... until it becomes racism.