Belfast Man Sentenced To Life In Prison For Drug Dealing

[thomo]

Correct Smedly....plus a person born in the Republic of Ireland before 1949 is also entitled to a British passport...:jap:

True.

My mother was born in 1947 in Ireland and remember a few years ago the debate with regards to the public pension, as the British one kicked in 5 or so years earlier, and what would changing to a British passport mean with regards to getting 5 years extra pension.

Of course she didn't and retired privately the following year anyway, but remember the talk about it.

[thomo]

I was born in Belfast.

I have an Irish passport and I consider myself Irish.

Eh?

Can someone born in the North choose to have a Republic of Ireland passy, even though it's a separate country and part of the UK?

[rott]

Surely that's the race card all played out?

Please don't let it decend into the religious side of north & south Ireland, I'm sure everyone's heard enough about this already!

Mods - do everyone a favour and close this before it goes further down the pan!

Race card no, Ireland is an island, with Irish people born there, they are all Irish. It is within any UK governments power to join the communities of the island to it's original status, ie; give back the land.

Irelands ''original status'' was a number (4?) of separate and fractious provinces, it was only ever a unified island while under British rule. Of course it is within any Irish government's power to return the 26 counties to the United Kingdom, (the former status quo.!), and give back the land.

[rott]

If he was a sports star he would be British but as he is a lowlife he is Irish.

Surely not a chip on the shoulder response from a respected Celtic supporter. Whether he is a lowlife or not, he is British.

[elliss]

Its a good place to go if you want to learn to speak Thai...And by the time the OP gets out think he will be fluent in the local lingo .quote.

given a choice i think i would prefer the final curtain ,

rather than a life sentence in the bangkok hilton.

[JAM1E]

dynabob

This man is not Irish he is a loyalist ie loyal to the Queen of England,he was also a member of a bunch of cowards called the Ulster freedom fighters,(UFF)who where the main suppliers of Heroin to schools and youth club's.He ran away to LOS after a warning from The Irish Republican Army concerning his drug dealing's.A shinning example of Jaffa (Orangeman)May it pass slowly.

Hi dynabob

I have a couple of point's about your post.

1.Can you please use the Queens correct title in you post's. "Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

2.A shinning example of Jaffa (Orangeman) . Umm you have used this post to vent your venom about the Orange Institution can you please stick to the facts.

A drug dealer was sent to prison for life for selling drugs....

Thanks

Jam1e

Edited August 28, 2010 by JAM1E

[seanocasey]

Correct Smedly....plus a person born in the Republic of Ireland before 1949 is also entitled to a British passport...:jap:

or having served in the British armed forces

[IMA_FARANG]

Poor Sod thought he could make some money in Thailand by selling drugs. What a fool.

Informants are the most common method the Thai police use to catch drug dealers. Watch carefully, memorise what what the news saya about the amount of drugs found. You can just about be sure to find that amount of drugs in another "bust" on the Thai news soon. The reason is that the Thai police will return a portion or all of the drugs to their informant...and hope that he/she will help them catch another fool who thinks that he/she is above the law again. That's the way the drug dealer cacthing business runs. Don't get me wrong, I have no sympathy for those who get caught dealing drugs. In my time in Thailand and watching the Thai news, I've seen it again and again. I've no doubt whatsoever that the Thai drug police use informants to lure the fool Farang into a drug deal scam, return part or all of the drugs to the informant...and much of the money (except for the "fee" paid to the police for "administrative" costs)...and send the informant back out to find another fool to scam. So in the future expect to find some other fool who thinks he/she can bet the law to be caught with the same (oh, what a coincidence!) amount of the same drugs.

Anuhow, the smart thing for poor Sod to do is to confess to the drug charge. The Thais will often reduce his sentence by half for the confession. Also that brings up the possilbility of doing only part of his sentence in Thailand...and then being sent back to his home country (I won't even touch the question of whether Northern Ireland is really Ireland or not) to finish the rest of his sentence.

Drugs, of any kind, are a nasty business...and I have no sympathy for those that deal them. Period.

Edited August 28, 2010 by IMA_FARANG

[salty]

If he was a sports star he would be British but as he is a lowlife he is Irish.

Surely not a chip on the shoulder response from a respected Celtic supporter. Whether he is a lowlife or not, he is British.

Indeed not Sir.

[Cuchulainn]

British or Irish? The oul fight is on again!! My avatar shows the flag of an independent N Ireland with no connection to the UK or Ireland. A dream??..yes!!

[moetownblues]

confusion

the Republic of Ireland (Irish: Poblacht na hÉireann) is a state which covers approximately five-sixths of the island of Ireland, off the coast of Northwest Europe. It is the western-most state of the European Union. The remaining sixth of the island of Ireland is known as Northern Ireland and is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.as is Belfast

As an Englishman, l look at any one from across the water as Irish.

My father is from Ireland and he never considers himself to be British and I consider him to be Irish and not a Brit.

[seanocasey]

I would draw your attention in my humble merit I rest my case to seanocasey.

to explain to the uninformed to what been Irish is yes Irish yes not British

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I edited as I wanted to shout my mouth off more as i am proud of being Irish.

Edited August 31, 2010 by seanocasey