Thai Society Is Now Immune Against Red Shirt Rallies

[alex_aka_P]

"No matter the purpose, the group has every right to organize the rally"

How abt the SoE (State of Emergency), which directly PROHIBITS the crowds 5pax++??

That's not even funny.

Allowing THIS BS under the "democracy" flag, this so-called "government" will lose MANYTHING. This is the road to hel_l, and INDEED will be a double-standard (as much as I hate to sound the "double standard" sentence).

The law is tough, but the law. Dura lex - sed lex ©

IF here is the law of SoE - so just ENFORCE it and NOT allow this reddish BS. And if here is NOT - than everyone at their own, and (frankly speakin') the "government" is NOTHING but a funds-eater.

Edited September 14, 2010 by alex_aka_P

[tomyummer]

What.what...what?! Time to break out my slingshot again?! It's been so long, now where did I put that thing?!

Buddha/God help us.......

[rubl]

No price can be too high

When honour and freedom

Are at stake

England, August 1914, At the begin of the Great War to End All Wars.

Has Humanity learned nothing since ?

[tomyummer]

No price can be too high

When honour and freedom

Are at stake

England, August 1914, At the begin of the Great War to End All Wars.

Has Humanity learned nothing since ?

Ummm....nope. Not in Thailand. Apparently.

This is how the Thais understand it:

No price can be too high....because I'm to darn rich

When honour and freedom.....you took my money

Are at stake................and I want it back

[scorecard]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

Simplistic I'd say. It doesn't help to speak in absolute truths like 'We want democracy', or 'the government has only the wellbeing of the people in mind'.

There's also the possibility that the real intended meaning has been lost in poor translation.

[jayjay0]

What a ridiculous article - Thai Society Immune against red shirt rallies. And all the way through the article is suppositions and assumptions. Gutter journalism by a 'stringer' can do better than this! But then I guess as they are paid by the word it would account for the dreary length of this article.

I theenk? senor it's not an Article; not a stringer report.

read the bottom of OP (small print)

it's a Letter to the Editor, then translated.

not that professionals to much better IMHO

(rambling, innocuous, dreamt in technicolor)

??? woner if the Thai writer said apathetic instead of immune???

Nobody, Thais, expats, visitors are 'immune' from the all out heck which will be unleashed, sooner than later.

All out heck. Are you saying there is no hope we are doomed

[hoaker]

reciting noble causes is what the Thai's do best as the would never understand the term "Accountability"

[hyperdimension]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

It might be simplistic but it makes perfect sense. The UDD leaders and protesters claim to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy" yet spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property, such as Central World which sits on top of royalty-owned land.

[xminator]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

It might be simplistic but it makes perfect sense. The UDD leaders and protesters claim to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy" yet spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property, such as Central World which sits on top of royalty-owned land.

As opposed to the government, claiming to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy", yet spew out violende inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property? Okay, that last one might not be true for the government, but we can add "violating basic human rights" instead...

And then there is the third party, PAD, multicolored, blue or yellow based on whats color they chose that day, claiming to love the King, be Buddhist and fighting for "demo ...." Well, lets skip the democracy part as they've stated their non-democracy view multiple times already, but lets continue with - , yet spew out violent inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property.

So let the author sit in the multimillion house, living a life that 90% of the countrys population can only dream about while watching lakorn. And be surprised when what is in reality a deeper social change blow up in their face again.

[rixalex]

As opposed to the government, claiming to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy", yet spew out violende inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property? Okay, that last one might not be true for the government, but we can add "violating basic human rights" instead...

Care to offer some examples of the government spewing out violende inciting lies and hatred?

[sevenhills]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

It might be simplistic but it makes perfect sense. The UDD leaders and protesters claim to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy" yet spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property, such as Central World which sits on top of royalty-owned land.

As opposed to the government, claiming to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy", yet spew out violende inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property? Okay, that last one might not be true for the government, but we can add "violating basic human rights" instead...

And then there is the third party, PAD, multicolored, blue or yellow based on whats color they chose that day, claiming to love the King, be Buddhist and fighting for "demo ...." Well, lets skip the democracy part as they've stated their non-democracy view multiple times already, but lets continue with - , yet spew out violent inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property.

So let the author sit in the multimillion house, living a life that 90% of the countrys population can only dream about while watching lakorn. And be surprised when what is in reality a deeper social change blow up in their face again.

Good post, I agree on your points even though you will get plenty pro yellow/government propaganda coming up in the next posts.

All Thais regardless of colour love their King, but some hide behind their religion and corruption for their own gain.

[rubl]

As opposed to the government, claiming to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy", yet spew out violende inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property? Okay, that last one might not be true for the government, but we can add "violating basic human rights" instead...

Care to offer some examples of the government spewing out violende inciting lies and hatred?

It's interesting that where various people have confirmed over and over again the relation between PTP, UDD and red-shirts, it's much less for Dem's and yellow shirts.

K. Thaksin controls PTP, Noppadon is a lapdog, Jaruporn is PTP MP and UDD leader. As far as I know there's no such control between Dem's and yellow shirts.

The PAD and yellow shirts are also mere bumbling beginners compared with UDD and red shirts. Not only did they forget to torch the airport before they left, they even helped cleanup

So blame the current government for all this ?

(edit: add current to last sentence)

Edited September 15, 2010 by rubl

[SpoliaOpima]

And if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Maew,

You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow.

[Buchholz]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

That is contradicted with multiple examples of Red Shirts, eg. Giles, Jakrapob

[sevenhills]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

That is contradicted with multiple examples of Red Shirts, eg. Giles, Jakrapob

What, they have openly said that, or has someone that dislikes them "set them up" Which would be easy to do these days with the way the present Government has over enacted the Lese Majeste laws?

[Buchholz]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

That is contradicted with multiple examples of Red Shirts, eg. Giles, Jakrapob

What, they have openly said that, or has someone that dislikes them "set them up" Which would be easy to do these days with the way the present Government has over enacted the Lese Majeste laws?

It's no secret. Red Shirt Giles, in particular, has penned numerous articles on the issue in several Marxist/Socialist websites.

[sevenhills]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

That is contradicted with multiple examples of Red Shirts, eg. Giles, Jakrapob

What, they have openly said that, or has someone that dislikes them "set them up" Which would be easy to do these days with the way the present Government has over enacted the Lese Majeste laws?

It's no secret. Red Shirt Giles, in particular, has penned numerous articles on the issue in several Marxist/Socialist websites.

Thanks, then it's less 2. But I guess you got the general idea re love for the King by Thais.

[whybother]

Thanks, then it's less 2. ...

Just because only 2 have spoken out, you think that's all there is?

[yellow1red1]

What a ridiculous article - Thai Society Immune against red shirt rallies. And all the way through the article is suppositions and assumptions. Gutter journalism by a 'stringer' can do better than this! But then I guess as they are paid by the word it would account for the dreary length of this article.

I theenk? senor it's not an Article; not a stringer report.

read the bottom of OP (small print)

it's a Letter to the Editor, then translated.

not that professionals to much better IMHO

(rambling, innocuous, dreamt in technicolor)

??? woner if the Thai writer said apathetic instead of immune???

Nobody, Thais, expats, visitors are 'immune' from the all out heck which will be unleashed, sooner than later.

pple will survives - can't see how Thailand can -tho

just a prediction is all

All out heck. Are you saying there is no hope we are doomed

[sevenhills]

Thanks, then it's less 2. ...

Just because only 2 have spoken out, you think that's all there is?

Personally, no.

[hyperdimension]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

It might be simplistic but it makes perfect sense. The UDD leaders and protesters claim to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy" yet spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property, such as Central World which sits on top of royalty-owned land.

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

[Buchholz]

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

According to Arisaman on this video, his list of targets for burning are:

Siriraj Hospital,

All Muslim Mosques,

Government House,

Important Ministries,

Airports,

Rajavithi Road,

Bridges,

Bank of Thailand,

Commercial Banks,

Military Barracks,

Court of Justice,

and NGO's

will all be destroyed.

His retort is:

"Not one of these will remain standing."

[Insight]

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

According to Arisaman on this video, his list of targets for burning are:

Siriraj Hospital,

All Muslim Mosques,

Government House,

Important Ministries,

Airports,

Rajavithi Road,

Bridges,

Bank of Thailand,

Commercial Banks,

Military Barracks,

Court of Justice,

and NGO's

will all be destroyed.

His retort is:

"Not one of these will remain standing."

Odds on Arisiman this weekend:

- Denying he ever made such threats, or...

- Threatening to return and burn even more buildings down?

Both are pretty likely.

[sevenhills]

"It would be simply unproductive to recite noble causes while inflicting damage to society."

This is either ridiculously simplistic or cynically disengenious.

It might be simplistic but it makes perfect sense. The UDD leaders and protesters claim to love the King, be Buddhists and fighting for "democracy" yet spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred, kill people and destroy property, such as Central World which sits on top of royalty-owned land.

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

I guess you missed the killings on the streets of Bkk. It was shown on TV in Thailand and right across the World.. They looked like Government Troops and Police to me. Or were they acting on their own? The truth will never be disclosed as that would make the government accountable, and guilty of atrocities against their citizens.

[rixalex]

I guess you missed the killings on the streets of Bkk. It was shown on TV in Thailand and right across the World.. They looked like Government Troops and Police to me. Or were they acting on their own? The truth will never be disclosed as that would make the government accountable, and guilty of atrocities against their citizens.

What a strange choice of smilie to follow those words.

The thing is, when you seize a public area in the middle of a capital city, and then take up weapons and start using them against an army that has repeatedly asked you to leave over the period of a number of weeks, the likelihood is that at some stage they will fight back and you will get hurt.

[Buchholz]

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

According to Arisaman on this video, his list of targets for burning are:

Siriraj Hospital,

All Muslim Mosques,

Government House,

Important Ministries,

Airports,

Rajavithi Road,

Bridges,

Bank of Thailand,

Commercial Banks,

Military Barracks,

Court of Justice,

and NGO's

will all be destroyed.

His retort is:

"Not one of these will remain standing."

Odds on Arisiman this weekend:

- Denying he ever made such threats, or...

- Threatening to return and burn even more buildings down?

Both are pretty likely.

- Stoking up the Muslim issue far, far further than the current Burn The Koran nutter contingent overseas;

he wants to Burn ALL Mosques to the Ground.

Wise words from the Liberator of the Poor, the Spokesman for Democracy, the Free Speech Stalwart.

Yes, truly reflective of the Red Shirt Leaders and their so-called movement in that this lunatic was a Core Leader of the Reds and on stage daily for months spewing his filth.

"But, but, but... it's not about Thaksin."

Ok, but is it then about psychopaths like Arisaman.

(and we haven't even gotten to his "other" targets)

[chantorn]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

All colours unless you are RED.

[chantorn]

Here's just one example of "spew out violence-inciting lies and hatred" (get a Thai friend to translate if you don't understand Thai):

Here is the description by the one who uploaded the video to YouTube

Starts with a comment that Abhisit and Prem are intimate and ends by saying that Suthep's list of sensitive targets will be wiped off the face of Thailand if Redshirts are injured by government.

And yes, that list includes Siriraj Hospital, among other things.

Now, to the UDD supporters, it's your turn to show us something equivalently offensive from the current government.

According to Arisaman on this video, his list of targets for burning are:

Siriraj Hospital,

All Muslim Mosques,

Government House,

Important Ministries,

Airports,

Rajavithi Road,

Bridges,

Bank of Thailand,

Commercial Banks,

Military Barracks,

Court of Justice,

and NGO's

will all be destroyed.

His retort is:

"Not one of these will remain standing."

With minute in teh viedo did he say "burn All Muslim Mosques" ?

[sevenhills]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

All colours unless you are RED.

No, that includes Red, as Red is one of all the colours. Maybe you are referring to someone other than the King? (But we won't go there).

[chantorn]

All Thais regardless of colour love their King

All colours unless you are RED.

No, that includes Red, as Red is one of all the colours. Maybe you are referring to someone other than the King? (But we won't go there).

Rephrase. All Colours as long as it is NOT Red.