Russian Real Estate Investor Brutally Murdered In Pattaya

[scotinsiam]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

You are saying you would feel better if they were prostituting erm erm lets say Ukranian women instead of their own ?

As long as they don't go bringing any welsh woman over .. that's one of the main reason i came to live in Thailand in the first place

I have it on good authority that the Welsh mafia are in the process of shipping back street whores from Swansea to Pattaya, I am assured they have been trained to drink you under the table then ransack your apartment.

[somtampet]

You have to laugh when a Thai tourism person recently declared Pattaya an ideal family destination. Not sure what family he was talking about though.

Families of the kind that have members with titles such as Capo, con signori , boss of bosses,.

There are loads of really up market hotels in Pattaya. Last week we stayed at the Sheraton. its 5 star for about 6000 baht and it was amazing. There are very few places around the world you can get that comfort for that sort of money.

Last month we stayed at nackula there is a whole strip of up market hotels on the beach and no brass.

Unlike other crime ridden places in the world, the Police do have control in Pattaya.

There are no punch-ups in the streets like most towns in Europe at 11:00pm

Its pretty safe. If you walk down Soi 6 wit hthe family you're in for a bit an eye opener but you can easily swerve that. You can see from the top that its going to be a bit lively.

Those bars on the front of beach road are gradually moving back as real estate prices go up. The sleaze will be hidden in the future.

Hilton have just opened there so I'm sure they did there research. Pattaya is on the way up whatever people say about it on these forums. There are some real classy joints popping up.

Excellent post,Pattaya will be booming compared to the tourism in Bangkok

[Arjay]

a team of officers headed by ... and under the watchful eye of ...

<deleted> !!

Just to add for the gangster wanna bees here. In reference to the Colombian and Russian; Thai Police will shoot! I credit their marksmanship so far!

[Mamboking]

Guys, what's wrong with the Russians? All kind of criminals from all over the world coming to Pattaya, but you can see only Russians? May be you're just afraid of them? Oh yes, by the way, I'm Russian too... Communists come...

[sirchai]

a team of officers headed by ... and under the watchful eye of ...

<deleted> !!

A wealthy Russian businessman living in Pattaya was allegedly murdered by his lover and a gang of his fellow countrymen last week

Can't even buy one Thai lover with five bank accounts? Nastravje.... :jap:

[pattayabuggy]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

Sure, the Thai's don't do that do they?

[nwnet]

Hey guys, you are really crazy about Russia and Russian mafia    By the way Russian mafia is nothing against others "mafia" in each country, especially against great USA government mafia   

I think you are looking too much brainwashing TV   

There is crime in each country and russians are not monsters as you wrote here 

Edited October 20, 2010 by nwnet

[nwnet]

Guys, what's wrong with the Russians? All kind of criminals from all over the world coming to Pattaya, but you can see only Russians? May be you're just afraid of them? Oh yes, by the way, I'm Russian too... Communists come...

Oh yes! USSR, Gorbachev, Vodka, Perestroyka, Balalayka, Matreshka, Bears on streets - that`s all that people need to know about Russia 

[hardy1943]

Unlike the typical, old man dies of heart attack in condo "news story", this is REAL news. What a story. Hopefully more details to come.

In the course of their investigations officers discovered that Mr. Victor’s five bank accounts had been accessed everyday since his disappearance with a withdrawal of approximately Bt100,000 per day from teller machines around Pattaya

Five bank accounts? Guess Thai authorities haven't heard anything about the Russian mafia so far?

Amazingly, they can bring their prostitutes into Thailand without a passport or any other ID. Just because the Thais like Russian hores?

Mafia wars and real estate business. money laundering and there's no end. At least local cops are making good money too....... :jap:

They are all getting very rich but Russian Mafia is more then a hand full. Putin himself has a problem with them and I can just really see them flourish here. As long as the stay in Mafia City and leave the rest of the country alone. I understand that in Phuket they are getting a foot hold there too. Well, stay there and leave the rest of us alone.

[nong38]

just read the full report, and this has to be the BIGGEST <deleted> of the day

At present, Col. Teerapol was reluctant to reveal what charges the two men were facing. However, investigations into the whereabouts of Mr. Alexandrov and any other suspects involved in the murder were ongoing.

Editor's Note: PDN have obtained information from a reputable source within the local police that the two men, Mr. Gasanov and Mr. Aramsis, have not yet been charged with any offence and have been released from custody.

Due to the length of the discussion mentioned in the police report, I feel it is very likely that the pair have struck a deal with police or are taking part in a further operation to arrest Mr. Alexandrov and any other people involved.

so they admit more or less to the murder, show where the body is, have the full ' assin ' kit in there (should be 'their') car, and then RELEASED !!!

Unbelievable in this land of unbelievabilities! Two guys pull a gun on the Thai cops and have not been charged (yet) and are released etc? Why don't the cops here get a life?

I think they must have promised not to do it again until next time

[Brewsta]

You have to laugh when a Thai tourism person recently declared Pattaya an ideal family destination. Not sure what family he was talking about though.

can't be the Adams Family........can it ?? AKA Adamskoff Familia?

regardski,

Cmrde Brewsta

Edited October 20, 2010 by Brewsta

[DickFarang]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

You are saying you would feel better if they were prostituting erm erm lets say Ukranian women instead of their own ?

Can YOU see the difference between a Russian and a Ukrainian whore ?

Or the difference between a Russian and a Ukrainian mafioso ?

[travelmann]

Was in Pattaya last weekend (against my wish), took a long slow walk through Walking street, the russian dancing outside the upstairs bar place was not bad looking at all, unlike most of her local cousins.

I even saw the one with 18inch waist and 36FF boobs on top some open muay Thai style bar.

The upcoming Hilton looks good and the general area is getting spruced up, must be the massive capital inflow from the Kremliners.

The 12 hours I stayed in the 'nice' lil town my alert level at a constant deep red, though I took my hotdog to the cookout.

How do they get work permits??

[PingManDan]

WHAT ??? These $ssholes were set free, guess they made a huge pay off to the cops, being part of the Russian Mafia:angry:

Guess money speaks louder then murder

Edited October 20, 2010 by PingManDan

[DickFarang]

You have to laugh when a Thai tourism person recently declared Pattaya an ideal family destination. Not sure what family he was talking about though.

The Russian version of La Cosa Nostra.

[DickFarang]

Was in Pattaya last weekend (against my wish), took a long slow walk through Walking street, the russian dancing outside the upstairs bar place was not bad looking at all, unlike most of her local cousins.

I even saw the one with 18inch waist and 36FF boobs on top some open muay Thai style bar.

The upcoming Hilton looks good and the general area is getting spruced up, must be the massive capital inflow from the Kremliners.

The 12 hours I stayed in the 'nice' lil town my alert level at a constant deep red, though I took my hotdog to the cookout.

How do they get work permits??

Good question.

[asiawatcher]

Unlike the typical, old man dies of heart attack in condo "news story", this is REAL news. What a story. Hopefully more details to come.

In the course of their investigations officers discovered that Mr. Victor's five bank accounts had been accessed everyday since his disappearance with a withdrawal of approximately Bt100,000 per day from teller machines around Pattaya

Five bank accounts? Guess Thai authorities haven't heard anything about the Russian mafia so far?

Amazingly, they can bring their prostitutes into Thailand without a passport or any other ID. Just because the Thais like Russian hores?

Mafia wars and real estate business. money laundering and there's no end. At least local cops are making good money too....... :jap:

Should fit in nicely to Thai way of doing business!!!

[Boater]

Unlike the typical, old man dies of heart attack in condo "news story", this is REAL news. What a story. Hopefully more details to come.

In the course of their investigations officers discovered that Mr. Victor's five bank accounts had been accessed everyday since his disappearance with a withdrawal of approximately Bt100,000 per day from teller machines around Pattaya

Five bank accounts? Guess Thai authorities haven't heard anything about the Russian mafia so far?

Amazingly, they can bring their prostitutes into Thailand without a passport or any other ID. Just because the Thais like Russian hores?

Mafia wars and real estate business. money laundering and there's no end. At least local cops are making good money too....... :jap:

Should fit in nicely to Thai way of doing business!!!

untill the Thai Police get to Greedy and the Russian's simply ' make them diasapear ' ... the Police are dealing with a whole new kettle of fish here

[Boater]

also does anyone know what the check Bin is to the police to be let off with

1) Carrying an illigal Fire Arm

2) Pointing the Fire Arm at the police to shoot them

3) Murder

4) Extortion

Makes sence why a certain ' High Up ' officer had a close eye on the Case, but this level of corruption stinks !!!

[Sabre]

You have to laugh when a Thai tourism person recently declared Pattaya an ideal family destination. Not sure what family he was talking about though.

Families of the kind that have members with titles such as Capo, con signori , boss of bosses,.

There are loads of really up market hotels in Pattaya. Last week we stayed at the Sheraton. its 5 star for about 6000 baht and it was amazing. There are very few places around the world you can get that comfort for that sort of money.

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Those bars on the front of beach road are gradually moving back as real estate prices go up. The sleaze will be hidden in the future.

Hilton have just opened there so I'm sure they did there research. Pattaya is on the way up whatever people say about it on these forums. There are some real classy joints popping up.

How much have you invested?

[Sabre]

Unlike the typical, old man dies of heart attack in condo "news story", this is REAL news. What a story. Hopefully more details to come.

In the course of their investigations officers discovered that Mr. Victor's five bank accounts had been accessed everyday since his disappearance with a withdrawal of approximately Bt100,000 per day from teller machines around Pattaya

Five bank accounts? Guess Thai authorities haven't heard anything about the Russian mafia so far?

Amazingly, they can bring their prostitutes into Thailand without a passport or any other ID. Just because the Thais like Russian hores?

Mafia wars and real estate business. money laundering and there's no end. At least local cops are making good money too....... :jap:

Should fit in nicely to Thai way of doing business!!!

untill the Thai Police get to Greedy and the Russian's simply ' make them diasapear ' ... the Police are dealing with a whole new kettle of fish here

Nonsense! The police in Pattaya have a firm grip on organised crime. The Russians were strong a few years back but after the bank job they pulled their ranks were culled and they fell into line.

[britmaveric]

^I agree if Russian mafia do not know their place and step over the line - they will meet the same fate as their comrades who were mowed down in their flat many years ago.

[elshaheen]

Unlike the typical, old man dies of heart attack in condo "news story", this is REAL news. What a story. Hopefully more details to come.

In the course of their investigations officers discovered that Mr. Victor’s five bank accounts had been accessed everyday since his disappearance with a withdrawal of approximately Bt100,000 per day from teller machines around Pattaya

Five bank accounts? Guess Thai authorities haven't heard anything about the Russian mafia so far?

Amazingly, they can bring their prostitutes into Thailand without a passport or any other ID. Just because the Thais like Russian hores?

Mafia wars and real estate business. money laundering and there's no end. At least local cops are making good money too....... :jap:

It's a secret, they are paid not to know about "them."

[VictorOne]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

Well with 3 million thai hoes INSIDE the realm I gues they think there is still room for some competition.

And the russian version would leave a thai hoe for dead any day.

[lonewolf99]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

100 % agreed. Russians are the only ones who can fly in to U- Tapao airport, direct from fagging Moscow.

Ain't no cops checking Id's? One night for a Thai with a "Russian mai mee arrai puta" more than $ 100. Insane.

They throw old women in jail, selling some Porno Cd's, but these pricks can do what they want.

I'll never forget a couple of years ago, when a Russian freaked out,in a hotel, cops were called. All of them had no education, but a lot of cash. Italian Mafia is like a Kindergarten gang against them.

But no arrest, their boss paid them good money. Thai corruption and Russian Mafia is a very bad and deadly mixture, dangerous for your health. :jap:

MMMmmmm I made remarks on TV earlier this year ....asking the Question " Why do I never see Russians on Visa Runs?" and I got flamed to hel_l.....a simple question I thought.

They only get 15 days on arrival. If they go through the correct channels at BKK...

SADLY some real bad eggs are around and many of them make a bee line for Thailand...not all Russian I might add......They could be Ukrainian / Latvian / Kazakh / Tajiki / Uzbeks / Turkmeni / Georgian / Chechyn...........Uncle Tom cobbly and all....Funny how this thread has not been killed off talking about one Nationality.....??? or are we all on a steep learning curve about some of our neighbours and their possible nefarious activities in the LOS ? Sorry I forgot its actually about the Pattaya police and their excellent investigating techniques..... irony /sarcasm......fact/fiction take yer pick

Edited October 20, 2010 by lonewolf99

[elshaheen]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

100 % agreed. Russians are the only ones who can fly in to U- Tapao airport, direct from fagging Moscow.

Ain't no cops checking Id's? One night for a Thai with a "Russian mai mee arrai puta" more than $ 100. Insane.

They throw old women in jail, selling some Porno Cd's, but these pricks can do what they want.

I'll never forget a couple of years ago, when a Russian freaked out,in a hotel, cops were called. All of them had no education, but a lot of cash. Italian Mafia is like a Kindergarten gang against them.

But no arrest, their boss paid them good money. Thai corruption and Russian Mafia is a very bad and deadly mixture, dangerous for your health. :jap:

MMMmmmm I made remarks on TV earlier this year ....asking the Question " Why do I never see Russians on Visa Runs?" and I got flamed to hel_l.....a simple question I thought.

They only get 15 days on arrival. If they go through the correct channels at BKK...

SADLY some real bad eggs are around and many of them make a bee line for Thailand...not all Russian I might add......They could be Ukrainian / Latvian / Kazakh / Tajiki / Uzbeks / Turkmeni / Georgian / Chechyn...........Uncle Tom cobbly and all....Funny how this thread has not been killed off talking about one Nationality.....??? or are we all on a steep learning curve about some of our neighbours and their possible nefarious activities in the LOS ? Sorry I forgot its actually about the Pattaya police and their excellent investigating techniques..... irony /sarcasm......fact/fiction take yer pick

My father lives in Northern California, where a lot of mariaguna is grow and harvested. Some have Mexican protecting it and some have hired Russian’s to protect it. My father tells me, that the Russians have taken all the good hunting grounds from other hunters.

Not even the local Sherriff or FEDs will go in there either. They are out gunned.

[dekbahnnok]

What goes around comes around. Have you seen the Russians prostituting their Russian women in Pattaya, makes me sick.

Try Europe where the "women" are girls and "men" are boys. The Russians are real equal opportunity employers and the "employees" are commodities that can be sold, traded or retired and never seen again.

[geriatrickid]

More bad PR for Mother Russia. As Lonewolf points out, a great many of the mafiosa are not really Russian as they come from the autonomous republics or the Baltic countries & the Ukraine. Sort of like Mr. Bout the merchant of death. The upside of these thugs is that no foreigner ever extorts a "Russian" twice. Sort of like not robbing one. of the Sopranos.

I recall that during the heyday of Hizbollah in Lebanon as the Americans were being threatened, hidnapped and murdered, the Hizbollah kidnapped a Russian and tried to ransom him off, figuring the Russians would be pushovers like the westerners. The Russians reacted by capturing some Hizbollah operatives and sending their fingers back to the local gang leaders. After that, no one bothered the Russians again. I would expect that the same thing happens in Thailand. You don't mess with the Russians unless you are prepared for the resulting death and violence. I hope Pattaya isn't turning into that part of NYC that was taken over by the Russian mafia back in the 80's and 90's. The Russians were untouchable by the US authorities who had to get the help of the Russian government to put a dent in the criminal gangs.

[DickFarang]

You have to laugh when a Thai tourism person recently declared Pattaya an ideal family destination. Not sure what family he was talking about though.

Families of the kind that have members with titles such as Capo, con signori , boss of bosses,.

There are loads of really up market hotels in Pattaya. Last week we stayed at the Sheraton. its 5 star for about 6000 baht and it was amazing. There are very few places around the world you can get that comfort for that sort of money.

Last month we stayed at nackula there is a whole strip of up market hotels on the beach and no brass.

Unlike other crime ridden places in the world, the Police do have control in Pattaya.

There are no punch-ups in the streets like most towns in Europe at 11:00pm

Its pretty safe. If you walk down Soi 6 wit hthe family you're in for a bit an eye opener but you can easily swerve that. You can see from the top that its going to be a bit lively.

Those bars on the front of beach road are gradually moving back as real estate prices go up. The sleaze will be hidden in the future.

Hilton have just opened there so I'm sure they did there research. Pattaya is on the way up whatever people say about it on these forums. There are some real classy joints popping up.

“There are no punch-ups in the streets like most towns in Europe at 11:00pm”

Which Europe are you talking about ?

[Rimmer]

UPDATE

Russian Property Company owner murdered, two Russian Suspects arrested by Pattaya Police

PATTAYA: -- A Pattaya Russian Property Company owner is alleged to have been murdered by a group consisting of at least two Russian Men last week. A report was made to Dongtan Police Station on Jomtien Beach on 14th October by the 70 year old mother of Mr. Victor Krishin aged 38. She stated at the time that her son had disappeared and she was not able to contact him via his mobile phone which had been switched off. Since that time Pattaya Police have been investigating the case and discovered that Mr. Krishin’s Thai bank Account had been active during the time of his disappearance. Police obtained security camera pictures of two men withdrawing money at various ATM’s around Pattaya and both men were not known to Mr. Krishin’s mother. All banks were alerted to contact Police as soon as his ATM card was used and a bank in front of a Temple in Banglamung contacted Police who soon arrived and tracked a Black Toyota Fortuna containing two men, thought to be of Russian origin. Police ordered the pair to pull over but they failed to stop and a chase ensued, during which time, one of the men produced a gun and shot in the direction of officers who returned fire and injured one of the men. Both men,

The full update is HERE

-- Pattaya One 2010-10-20

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