HalfSquat Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Kao Soi is a dish I've seen a couple of times in Chiang mai but not anywhere else I've been. It is noodles in a light coconutty milk curry with chicken and is very nice. Is it a northern thing or have I been looking in the wrong places in Bangkok for it? Or is it known by another name? Here is a picture of it on a menu - anyone know what is says in Thai? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharonb Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's called Kao Soi Had it before in Bkk but I had the Vegetarian version It wsa at Pahonyothin Soi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelaway Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Try one of the big Food Courts; you'll find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Try one of the big Food Courts; you'll find it. First I had it was in CM also...fantastic food!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Try one of the big Food Courts; you'll find it. In Bangkok? I've never seen it in a food court, could be at one I haven't been to though. There was another thread about this and apparently a noodle restaurant in Siam Square has it but I haven't been. It's really rare here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircut Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 there is a good ones in pantip plaza food court and another one on the ground floor of fortune plaza on ratchada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangutan Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Try one of the big Food Courts; you'll find it. In Bangkok? I've never seen it in a food court, could be at one I haven't been to though. There was another thread about this and apparently a noodle restaurant in Siam Square has it but I haven't been. It's really rare here. Emporium food court..excellent. -O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Try one of the big Food Courts; you'll find it. First I had it was in CM also...fantastic food!!!! I had it first in Chiang Mai too. Khao Soi with chicken. Would to get the recipe for it. Aroi mahk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardie Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 The Chiang Mai version of Kao Soi is properly called 'kao soi Islam', from Burma and ubiquitous in Mae Sot. Real Tai 'kao soi' comes from Yunnan, China, and is similar to 'nam ngiow' in C. Mai and C. Rai, ubiquitous in north Laos. Chiang Saen does it the Lao way i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistephenso Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Kao Soi is traditionally a Northern dish - the only place I've had it in Bangkok is at the 'food court' in Central Lad Phrao. This was a while ago though?! I now live in the north, and have a VERY nice Kao Soi shop just around the corner from my house. It's awesome with leg pork...! In answer to the OP's question about the Thai on the menu; it simply says 'Kao Soi moo-bplah-gai'. That just translates to Kao Soi with pork, fish or chicken... Good luck on your Kao Soi hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytouch Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Yes, actualy of Burmese origin I believe, as Hardie said, which makes sense given it's un-Thai-like taste, a bit like massaman curry in the South (if you haven't tried that you certainly should). Whenever we ate kao soi in Chiang Mai it was always proceded by a plate of chicken satay, I'm not sure if this is standard practice or unique to that particular (incredibly busy) restaurant. My ex told me the Chiang Rai version is different from Chiang Mai's and superior (yes, she's from Chiang Rai). It's great with other meat too, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as being a "light" dish. But I think your best, and probably most convinient bet is the food courts. Good luck, and try not to get any on your shirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Yes, actualy of Burmese origin I believe, as Hardie said, which makes sense given it's un-Thai-like taste, a bit like massaman curry in the South (if you haven't tried that you certainly should). Whenever we ate kao soi in Chiang Mai it was always proceded by a plate of chicken satay, I'm not sure if this is standard practice or unique to that particular (incredibly busy) restaurant. My ex told me the Chiang Rai version is different from Chiang Mai's and superior (yes, she's from Chiang Rai). It's great with other meat too, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as being a "light" dish. But I think your best, and probably most convinient bet is the food courts. Good luck, and try not to get any on your shirt! Not light for sure as mostly it is made with coconut milk...something my heart doc says is a NO NO! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ingredients 4 ounces rice noodles 1 tbs chopped garlic 1 tbs red curry paste 1/2 cup coconut milk 4 ounces ground pork one cup chicken stock 1 tbs curry powder - pong gari a pinch of turmeric powder 2 tbs fish sauce - nam pla a pinch of palm sugar a tsp lime juice You will also need - for the Garnish spring onions, sliced shallots and lime wedges Method - noodles 1. Soak noodles in cool water for 15-30 minutes then drain for use. 2. Bring a pan of water to the boil, then place the noodles in a wire basket or strainer and dip the noodles in the water for a few seconds (no more) 3. drain them and transfer to the serving plate. Method - Sauce 1. In a wok, heat the coconut milk 2. stir in the curry paste until the aroma is brought out and a thin film of oil separates out 3. add the garlic and stir fry for about 30 seconds 4. Add the remaining ingredients except the pork, and stir until the sauce thickens slightly. 5. Add the pork 6. continue to stir until the meat is cooked through. 7. Pour the sauce over the noodles. Garnish with spring onions, sliced shallots and lime wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theseahorse Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 @Poorsucker What type of Khao Soy is this? Sounds good, I'll try it out at somepoint, but it's very different from the Khao Soy's I've had in the Chiang Mai area. It's always been flat egg noodles, never rice noodles. Is this a Chiang Rai version? Last time I was up in Chiang Mai the owner of the little place I was staying in got her mum to show me how they make Khao Soy Gai and it was very different to this. But as many other people have said there are numerous versions around. I'll type out her recipe on here when I have more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 "The name means "cut rice". Traditionally, the dough for the rice noodles is spread out on a cloth stretched over boiling water. After steaming the large sheet noodle is then rolled and cut with scissors." Khao soi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaijai Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Yes, actualy of Burmese origin I believe, as Hardie said, which makes sense given it's un-Thai-like taste, a bit like massaman curry in the South (if you haven't tried that you certainly should). Whenever we ate kao soi in Chiang Mai it was always proceded by a plate of chicken satay, I'm not sure if this is standard practice or unique to that particular (incredibly busy) restaurant. My ex told me the Chiang Rai version is different from Chiang Mai's and superior (yes, she's from Chiang Rai). It's great with other meat too, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as being a "light" dish. But I think your best, and probably most convinient bet is the food courts. Good luck, and try not to get any on your shirt! Not light for sure as mostly it is made with coconut milk...something my heart doc says is a NO NO! :( Your doc might be a little out of date on this. Coconut extract has lots of health benefits, which nowadays are thought to outweigh any negatives (ie presence of saturated fat). But real khao soy has no coconut milk. That was a Chiang Mai addition. If you eat khao soy in Shan or Yunnanese districts of northern Thailand, such as Ban Luang, Mae Salong, etc, you'll see they typically do not use coconut milk unless catering to tourists. In Luang Prabang, where it is also possible, the use of coconut extract is also uncommon. In all three cases (Shan, Yunnanese, Lao) coconut products are not typical to the cuisine. The name has nothing to do with 'cut rice' although many Thais think so. It's from the Shan/Burmese name for noodles, khauk swe. the dtopr of final /k/ in khauk (which is barely pronounced anyway, just a glottal stop), and when Thais pronounce 'swe' it comes out 'soy.' The Wiki article is also wrong about the type of noodles used. They are made from wheat flour mixed with egg. No rice. The food court at The Emporium has a vendor who makes khao soy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue eyes Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 This may just help everyone out as to just what Chaing Mai noodels are.I have made this recipe and have found it to be very good. http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/recipes/kaosoi.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yes, actualy of Burmese origin I believe, as Hardie said, which makes sense given it's un-Thai-like taste, a bit like massaman curry in the South (if you haven't tried that you certainly should). Whenever we ate kao soi in Chiang Mai it was always proceded by a plate of chicken satay, I'm not sure if this is standard practice or unique to that particular (incredibly busy) restaurant. My ex told me the Chiang Rai version is different from Chiang Mai's and superior (yes, she's from Chiang Rai). It's great with other meat too, but I'm not sure I'd describe it as being a "light" dish. But I think your best, and probably most convinient bet is the food courts. Good luck, and try not to get any on your shirt! Not light for sure as mostly it is made with coconut milk...something my heart doc says is a NO NO! :( Your doc might be a little out of date on this. Coconut extract has lots of health benefits, which nowadays are thought to outweigh any negatives (ie presence of saturated fat). But real khao soy has no coconut milk. That was a Chiang Mai addition. If you eat khao soy in Shan or Yunnanese districts of northern Thailand, such as Ban Luang, Mae Salong, etc, you'll see they typically do not use coconut milk unless catering to tourists. In Luang Prabang, where it is also possible, the use of coconut extract is also uncommon. In all three cases (Shan, Yunnanese, Lao) coconut products are not typical to the cuisine. The name has nothing to do with 'cut rice' although many Thais think so. It's from the Shan/Burmese name for noodles, khauk swe. the dtopr of final /k/ in khauk (which is barely pronounced anyway, just a glottal stop), and when Thais pronounce 'swe' it comes out 'soy.' The Wiki article is also wrong about the type of noodles used. They are made from wheat flour mixed with egg. No rice. The food court at The Emporium has a vendor who makes khao soy. Thanks. But I have a partial blockage of an artery, so this is a big deal for me. I'm trying to do a veggie diet...but it ain't easy. I know there are some health benefits, but the risks outweigh the benefits. I have high cholesterol anyway, so coconut milk doesn't help. Here's an article off the web... ------------------------------ I know it sounds innocent enough but coconut milk is LOADED with calories, total fat grams and saturated fat grams. You don’t believe me? Well, 1 cup of canned coconut milk usually contains 445 calories, 48 grams of fat and 43 grams of saturated fat. ----------------------------- Just too much for me to take. I know you only use a little...but.... I saw an article on Bill Clinton's new health program. He was about to either have a multiple heart bypass, or stents, etc...but went on this radical diet and he has lost weight, his cholesterol is down significantly, and his artery blocks have actually reduced in size. He no longer has to consider a bypass. Amazing! How did this happen. It's radical. He eats nothing that has a face or a mother. Total vegan diet. I don't think I can do that...but I'm trying the best I can. I did find that recipe for Khao Soy that doesn't use coconut milk and wifey is going to try it. Great alternative. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaijai Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 It's cholesterol that blocks arteries. Coconut contains no cholesterol, and its consumption appears to lower total blood cholesterol levels. Here's a recent study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937313/?tool=pubmed Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, the kind one finds in most people's everyday diets, are much worse for you in terms of promoting coronary heart disease than coconut. A comprehensive review of studies of trans fats published in 2006 in the New England Journal of Medicine reported a strong and reliable connection between trans fat (unsaturated fat with trans-isomer fatty acid, the norm for vegetable cooking oils) consumption and CHD, concluding that "On a per-calorie basis, trans fats appear to increase the risk of coronary heart disease more than any other macronutrient, conferring a substantially increased risk at low levels of consumption (1 to 3% of total energy intake)". The study estimated that between 30,000 and 100,000 cardiac deaths per year in the United States are attributable to the consumption of trans fats. Coconut oil/milk/extract contains no trans fats. But enjoy your khao soy without coconut milk. I prefer it that way myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 It's cholesterol that blocks arteries. Coconut contains no cholesterol, and its consumption appears to lower total blood cholesterol levels. Here's a recent study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937313/?tool=pubmed Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, the kind one finds in most people's everyday diets, are much worse for you in terms of promoting coronary heart disease than coconut. A comprehensive review of studies of trans fats published in 2006 in the New England Journal of Medicine reported a strong and reliable connection between trans fat (unsaturated fat with trans-isomer fatty acid, the norm for vegetable cooking oils) consumption and CHD, concluding that "On a per-calorie basis, trans fats appear to increase the risk of coronary heart disease more than any other macronutrient, conferring a substantially increased risk at low levels of consumption (1 to 3% of total energy intake)". The study estimated that between 30,000 and 100,000 cardiac deaths per year in the United States are attributable to the consumption of trans fats. Coconut oil/milk/extract contains no trans fats. But enjoy your khao soy without coconut milk. I prefer it that way myself Great info. I will have to do some more research on this for sure. I do love curry...and wifey is starting to refuse to make it for me after what the doc said! :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue eyes Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Gee wiz.It's not like you are going to eat it everyday.A little coconut milk never killed anyone.Unless you are allergic to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Gee wiz.It's not like you are going to eat it everyday.A little coconut milk never killed anyone.Unless you are allergic to it. I think you missed my previous post. I have a fairly decent blockage of a major artery. If I don't change my lifestyle, I will either have to have a stent or a bypass. Sure, a little coconut milk can't hurt. But combine that with a little cheese, a little sausage, a few potato chips, some good ice cream every once in a while, a little fish and chips, some french fries. As you can see, it can add up quickly. And I'm not perfect, so some of these foods do slip in from time to time. So I try to be diligent and try and stave off this impending operation. I figure if Bill Clinton can do it, so can I!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padfoot Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 The food court at Queen Sirikit Convention center has this dish. Also, Cafe de Tuc in the lower floor of Siam Paragon has this dish.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza90 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 This meal is one of my favourites. First tried it in Chiang Rai. The Loft in Central Chidlom has it. Same counter that sells the Malaysian food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahseer Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 And in Hua Hin you can find it on the main drag around soi 85 at North Sea. It's run by a lady from Chiang Mai and worth a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircut Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I have uploaded a setp by step tutorial for making Khao Soi. http://www.thaifoodmaster.com/origin/northern_thai/2031 enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Thanks for the recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebBangkok Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 They ser it at S&P, taste a little different but still the best thing on there menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerboy Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I was going to start a thread asking "Errr where can I find kao soy in BKK", and then stumbled on this one during my pre-post due dilligence. I've summerized below the 8 places in this thread where people have found kao soy here in Bangkok. To these 8 places I'll add the one place that I know of: Heading south on Sukumvit soi 22, about 100m past the Queen's Park Plaza hotel on the LH side. It's just past a small sub-soi with many massage places and across soi 22 from an Italian resturant. If people know of other places in BKK feel free to update the list below... Pahonyothin Soi 7 (vegitarian version) Apparently a noodle restaurant in Siam Square (Cafe de Tuc ??) Pantip Plaza foodcourt Ground floor of Fortune Plaza on Ratchada Emporium food court Food court at Queen Sirikit Convention center Loft in Central Chidlom S&P resturant chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Pantip has a cult following for its Khao Soi, good luck getting a smile from the serving lady though, she's been there years and I've yet to see her smile once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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