healthcaretaker Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 I need to travel late by bus to anywhere in the north for Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Sukhotai or Mae Sai from Bangkok by government bus Anyone know which destination has the latest bus from MorChit ? They used to be an online bus timetable in English but I cannot find it now. If I go to the Morchit station, they isn't any timetable on display and I have to ask all the counters one by one, it's really a nuisance and annoying to those in queue behind me. To make it more difficult, the counters don't have all names displayed in English. I have phoned to them but no one can speak English well. Can anyone help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 last bus is a mid night departure for udon thani. and restart 5 am.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbangkok.com/getting_here/bus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakegeneve Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It might help you can expand a little on your "latest time" requirement. Also, do you care what class you travel or is the main priority just to start heading north? It is a hassle that there is seemingly no intergrated timetable for all govt and private operators with all schedules. Along with the above site this guy has many VIP only bus times which may help, http://thaitransit.blogspot.com/2010/02/thai-vip-intercity-buses-thai-lao.html Most O/N VIP buses end around 11pm - NCA lista late 1st Class bus to CM just before 11pm, check their website www.nca.co.th - but there are some 2nd class buses which will leave around 3am or 4am. However, do you really want to catch a 2nd class bus which takes twice as long and stops everywhere in order to get more pax. Book early enough and a ticket with Nok or 1,2 Go for an early morning flight from DMK will not cost much. P'lok flight s with Nok are often around 1200 baht even a few days ahead. Also, the 10:24pm train to CM from Bang Sue may be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ Sorry this timetable is useful as rough guide.It is by no means complete. There are many,many services not listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I would suggest, the best way to go is by train, take a sleeper train .The last sleeper leaves Hua Lumphong at 22.00. I always travel 2nd class non-air, as it gets quite cold at night. I do ,however take my evenings "refreshments" with me in a little 6 can cooler.Makes for a very pleasant trip.Good luck whichever way you choose to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ Sorry this timetable is useful as rough guide.It is by no means complete. There are many,many services not listed. Perhaps you can provide something better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Sorry Metis, nobody can .There is NO complete bus timetable for Thailand. Also you have 2 different class of operators, (1) 99 or 999, which is the Transport Company ( Govt. owned) and the Private operators, The Transport Company run 3 classes- 2nd class, 1st class and V.I.P. Different private operators, sometimes running the same routes also operate the same 3 classes. I couldn't hazard a guess as to how many services leave Morchit daily. Each operator or route, uses their own booking office. .This makes it extremely Difficult to get to the actual departure times . I think there are 3 1st class operators to C.M..Sorry , I cannot be more helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Sorry Metis, nobody can .There is NO complete bus timetable for Thailand. Also you have 2 different class of operators, (1) 99 or 999, which is the Transport Company ( Govt. owned) and the Private operators, The Transport Company run 3 classes- 2nd class, 1st class and V.I.P. Different private operators, sometimes running the same routes also operate the same 3 classes. I couldn't hazard a guess as to how many services leave Morchit daily. Each operator or route, uses their own booking office. .This makes it extremely Difficult to get to the actual departure times . I think there are 3 1st class operators to C.M..Sorry , I cannot be more helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Yep, it sucks! To give you one example ,Surin -Morchit. 1 private operator does run both the V.I.P. and the 1st class services. A different operator runs the 2nd class. Then the Transport Company runs all 3 classes.All on the same route. Sadly ,pretty near everyone connected with booking speaks , basically no English. And to make things worse, many of the booking offices at Morchit, do not list destinations in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Thanks all. Udon is not useful to me, I am heading to Mae Sai from Bangkok but their last bus is too early at just pass 6 pm. I will look for a way or destination that can lead me to Chinag Mai, Sukhotai or CR but not to Pitsanulok. I don't like to take the train, they are too slow. I prefer a late bus so that I can spend some time in BKK before shooting off. farang, you are right. I dont understand why BKK bus system don't put up English words for their names. Not even the town name in its main bus terminal. It's only written in Thai. I am used to taking their 999 buses. Everytime reaching a town for the short break, I have to ask others "where is this place ?" Everytime in BKK, I wasted time and money with my prepaid mobil when I call the bus stations or the TAT offices for informations. Their operators, will always be helpful and equally helpless by answering, "just a moment please" "can I help you" or "yes, yes, yes" but nothing more. Then she will let you wait on the line for years without getting another person to help or just pass to someone else whow will say the same few words. I don't believe time schedules for buses cannot be gathered to be put up in a website. IF anyone want to do such a website, please let me know, I am most willing to find out all their buses and times the next time I go to their buis stations. I am sure such a website is very much needed. I don't know how to look for those private operators that have later buses, any websites ? I am very comfortable and feel secure with their goivernment buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ This site cannot be trusted. I am sure there is a later evening bus from BKK to Sukhotai not mentioned there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 It might help you can expand a little on your "latest time" requirement. Also, do you care what class you travel or is the main priority just to start heading north? It is a hassle that there is seemingly no intergrated timetable for all govt and private operators with all schedules. Along with the above site this guy has many VIP only bus times which may help, http://thaitransit.b...s-thai-lao.html Most O/N VIP buses end around 11pm - NCA lista late 1st Class bus to CM just before 11pm, check their website www.nca.co.th - but there are some 2nd class buses which will leave around 3am or 4am. However, do you really want to catch a 2nd class bus which takes twice as long and stops everywhere in order to get more pax. Book early enough and a ticket with Nok or 1,2 Go for an early morning flight from DMK will not cost much. P'lok flight s with Nok are often around 1200 baht even a few days ahead. Also, the 10:24pm train to CM from Bang Sue may be an option. Thank you Lakegeneve, That thaitransit is my favourite site for Thailand info but too bad it's time tables for government buses are not complete. I cannot find any english page for the nca website, is there any english page ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ This site cannot be trusted. I am sure there is a later evening bus from BKK to Sukhotai not mentioned there. Well then, good luck finding a site that can be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Try this: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ This site cannot be trusted. I am sure there is a later evening bus from BKK to Sukhotai not mentioned there. There maybe a 2nd class .But Sukothai is primarily a tourist destination. so 1st class or V.I.P buses will run during daylight hours only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 last bus is a mid night departure for udon thani. and restart 5 am.. Mate, U.T. is in Isarn. Our O.P wanted to go to Chiang Mai which is Northern Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Thanks all. Udon is not useful to me, I am heading to Mae Sai from Bangkok but their last bus is too early at just pass 6 pm. I will look for a way or destination that can lead me to Chinag Mai, Sukhotai or CR but not to Pitsanulok. I don't like to take the train, they are too slow. I prefer a late bus so that I can spend some time in BKK before shooting off. farang, you are right. I dont understand why BKK bus system don't put up English words for their names. Not even the town name in its main bus terminal. It's only written in Thai. I am used to taking their 999 buses. Everytime reaching a town for the short break, I have to ask others "where is this place ?" Everytime in BKK, I wasted time and money with my prepaid mobil when I call the bus stations or the TAT offices for informations. Their operators, will always be helpful and equally helpless by answering, "just a moment please" "can I help you" or "yes, yes, yes" but nothing more. Then she will let you wait on the line for years without getting another person to help or just pass to someone else whow will say the same few words. I don't believe time schedules for buses cannot be gathered to be put up in a website. IF anyone want to do such a website, please let me know, I am most willing to find out all their buses and times the next time I go to their buis stations. I am sure such a website is very much needed. I don't know how to look for those private operators that have later buses, any websites ? I am very comfortable and feel secure with their goivernment buses. Absolutely no websites ,except for N.C.A. , who do publish in English. As to collecting and collating bus timetables, your first problem is there are3 terminals in Bkk., Southern , Ekamai and Central, Northern, Northeastern.Which is known as Morchit. The booking staff cannot tell you what buses leave when. They know the buses that leave on their shift.- sometimes. Not always.As their English language abilities are suspect, to put it mildly, you may not get the information you desire. Or need.To give you 1 example of their language abilities , I travel regularly(For nearly20 years) on the Morchit -Surin route. I alight at PLACKONCHAI. The ticket seller said, not on this route, You want to go to PAK THONG CHAI .Go to another window. Point blank refused to sell me a ticket.I have heard numerous stories of tourists , who ended up in the wrong place.Sorry, the difficulties in publishing an accurate timetable are so ,well many lifetimes consuming. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Thanks all. Udon is not useful to me, I am heading to Mae Sai from Bangkok but their last bus is too early at just pass 6 pm. I will look for a way or destination that can lead me to Chinag Mai, Sukhotai or CR but not to Pitsanulok. I don't like to take the train, they are too slow. I prefer a late bus so that I can spend some time in BKK before shooting off. farang, you are right. I dont understand why BKK bus system don't put up English words for their names. Not even the town name in its main bus terminal. It's only written in Thai. I am used to taking their 999 buses. Everytime reaching a town for the short break, I have to ask others "where is this place ?" Everytime in BKK, I wasted time and money with my prepaid mobil when I call the bus stations or the TAT offices for informations. Their operators, will always be helpful and equally helpless by answering, "just a moment please" "can I help you" or "yes, yes, yes" but nothing more. Then she will let you wait on the line for years without getting another person to help or just pass to someone else whow will say the same few words. I don't believe time schedules for buses cannot be gathered to be put up in a website. IF anyone want to do such a website, please let me know, I am most willing to find out all their buses and times the next time I go to their buis stations. I am sure such a website is very much needed. I don't know how to look for those private operators that have later buses, any websites ? I am very comfortable and feel secure with their goivernment buses. Absolutely no websites ,except for N.C.A. , who do publish in English. As to collecting and collating bus timetables, your first problem is there are3 terminals in Bkk., Southern , Ekamai and Central, Northern, Northeastern.Which is known as Morchit. The booking staff cannot tell you what buses leave when. They know the buses that leave on their shift.- sometimes. Not always.As their English language abilities are suspect, to put it mildly, you may not get the information you desire. Or need.To give you 1 example of their language abilities , I travel regularly(For nearly20 years) on the Morchit -Surin route. I alight at PLACKONCHAI. The ticket seller said, not on this route, You want to go to PAK THONG CHAI .Go to another window. Point blank refused to sell me a ticket.I have heard numerous stories of tourists , who ended up in the wrong place.Sorry, the difficulties in publishing an accurate timetable are so ,well many lifetimes consuming. Sadly. Just curious, where is Surin or Plackonchai ? Are they interestering places ? By next year, I will run out of places to explore in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 They are in Isarn.From Bkk., take highway 2 to Si Khio, turn right onto highway 24,.The main towns you pass through are : Nong Ki, Nang Rong, Plackonchai , Prasat, and you eventually end up in Ubon. This part of Isarn was originally part of Cambodia, and is famous for its Hindu Temples.In Korat province is Phi Mai, in Buriram province is Phanom Rung. In Surin province is Prasat Ta Muen- 3 buildings. In SiSa Ket province is Khao Phra Viharn.They are all approx. 900 years old. There was a major highway from Ankor Wat to Prasat Ta Muen to Phanom Rung to Phi Mai. I live in Amphur Ban Kruad. which is south of Plackonchai, heading towards the Cambodian border, whereever it may actually be. The border is in dispute.. So sometimes fun and games, around the "border areas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullupullo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 This one http://www.transport.co.th/ http://61.19.247.102/~transport/timetable01_north.php http://61.19.247.102/~transport/timetable02_northeast.php http://61.19.247.102/~transport/timetable03_east.php http://61.19.247.102/~transport/timetable04_south.php Buses http://61.19.247.102/~transport/standard00.php Callcenter 1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 This one http://www.transport.co.th/ http://61.19.247.102...ble01_north.php http://61.19.247.102...2_northeast.php http://61.19.247.102...able03_east.php http://61.19.247.102...ble04_south.php Buses http://61.19.247.102.../standard00.php Callcenter 1490 Still not complete, They list no 1st class to Surin ,for example. The private operator runs 14 1st classes services a DAY to Surin.The transport company runs very few 1st and V.I.P. services .The private operators dominate these services. They also run 2 V.I.P services. One morning and one evening.With the private operators ,you get much better choice of departure times ,both ways.Khon Kaen ,is another good example, many V.I.P and 1st. class only run by private operators. The privates ,as I said dominate, and give you a much range of departure times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullupullo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Nobody said it is complete. Just excample of ONE company website that have some english. Someone said before "Absolutely no websites ,except for N.C.A. , who do publish in English" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Nobody said it is complete. Just excample of ONE company website that have some english. Someone said before "Absolutely no websites ,except for N.C.A. , who do publish in English" That was me. i was referring to private operators.The Transport Company only started offering 1st. class and V.I.P. services a couple of years back. prior to that they only ran 2nd. class services,in clapped out old front engined buses, in the bus,noisy as all hel_l.. When they upgraded their fleet,with a rear engine fleet, they started a limited number of 1st and V.I.P.. So far, the number of services they run. in comparison to the privates ,is miniscule.If you want a range of departure times, to suit you, then the privates give you that. The Transport Company do not run 1st, and V.I.P. to all destinations.Only the privates do, though still some destinations only have 1st, no V.I.P.(Not so well patronised routes).If you can find a V.I.P. bus, they are so much more comfortable , they are definitely worth the extra baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Thanks to both of you for the latest post. Sorry I missed them. Is there any feature here that I can know which threads of mine got any new message ? This is save me the trouble to opeining all my old threads to check I am used to the government buses. I think those private companies easily charge 50% to 100% more. Furtthermore, it's even more difficult to find their ticketing booths compared to the govt ones which I can recognise better. Unless the private ones speak english and accept reservations through the phone to make things easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Thanks to both of you for the latest post. Sorry I missed them. Is there any feature here that I can know which threads of mine got any new message ? This is save me the trouble to opeining all my old threads to check I am used to the government buses. I think those private companies easily charge 50% to 100% more. Furtthermore, it's even more difficult to find their ticketing booths compared to the govt ones which I can recognise better. Unless the private ones speak english and accept reservations through the phone to make things easier. I am sorry, you are not 50% wrong you are 100% wrong. All bus fares are exactly the same, Thailand wide. 99,and 999 -The transport company and the private operators fares are exactly the same.Let me explain. The Fares are set by the Ministry of Transport. They comprise 2 components, (1)May best be described as a Boarding charge. This is a flat fee, calculated in Baht, and applies to ALL buses.+ (2),A fee calculated in Satang, per route kilometre travelled.So, the longer the route travelled, the higher the fare. It really is quite mischievous of you to suggest that the Private Route operators charge 50 -100% higher fare,when you have made no enquiries or done any research. They Do Not. All fares ,irrespective of the service provider are 100% identical, as mandated by law.As are levels of service. They ,too are identical, dependent on the class of travel.It saddens me ,that some Farang may have believed you, when you are so wrong.Ticketing booths" As so few have signs in English , it is difficult. True for both class of operator.Very few people at Morchit 2 speak English.In so far ,as I am aware ,,there is no provision for telephone reservations. Enquiries, as to departure times ,yes,but not reservations.The layout of Morchit 2 is that on the Taxi or Vehicle arrival side of the booking hall(3rd floor),North and NorthEastern Destinations, is a combination of 99 ,999 and private booking offices .On the other side ,it is all Private Operator booking.The biggest problem you may have mistakenly created for travellers who do not know, is that The Transport Company runs significantly fewer 1st class and V.I.P. services ,than the Private operators. Surin -Morchit ,the Private Operator runs 14 services DAILY (1st class,both ways),The Transport Company ,only 2.This ,obviously restricts your choice of departure times. This is true for all country routes. You have a much greater choice of departure times ,with the Privates.The upshot ,being if you go to Morchit 2 ,expecting to travel 999, you may have to wait for up to 10 to 12 hours for a bus, whereas ,with the Privates , it is GENERALLY, no longer than 1 to 2 hours, at most, on the most travelled routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The problem with timetables is ,that their are countless private operators. Most of whom do not have their company name on their buses this means I cannot identify them.And ascertain , if they publish a timetable . Nearly all routes have 1st class ,and increasingly many are now running V.I.P., as well.For example, Morchit 2 has 3 operators, running V.I.P, to Khon Kaen. , N.C.A.and Chan tours ,In ,fact they also run what is known as Chan 4, which is superior to V.I.P., but the 3rd operator I don't know their name. So, I am stymied . Except to reiterate, that The Transport Company is primarily a 2nd class operator and runs very few 1st and V.I.P, services.If you want frequent departure times, without having to wait 12- 14 hours for the next bus,then you go private, they specialise in providing higher quality buses.At exactly the same fares as the Transport Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) Try this link: http://www.suvarnabhumiairport.com/passenger_en.php Click a bus icon which will take you to the schedules page for the respective routes. There's a link to their call centre at the foot of the page. Edited December 1, 2010 by Xircal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afarang Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 The problem is ,they give NO departure times or frequency of service details. The routes that start with 99-- are existing services that now call at Swampy. Further and this is stupid- there is no Jatujak bus terminal .It is ,Morchit 2. Jatujak is a weekend market.About 3 kilometres away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 The problem is ,they give NO departure times or frequency of service details. The routes that start with 99-- are existing services that now call at Swampy. Further and this is stupid- there is no Jatujak bus terminal .It is ,Morchit 2. Jatujak is a weekend market.About 3 kilometres away. I don't know how accurate this link is, but maybe worth a look: http://www.1stopbang...tting_here/bus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthcaretaker Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 I always have trouble getting from Chatuchak to Morchit although it is very near. Depending on which side of the road you get a taxi or bus, the distance and bus numbers are different and getting there and return is a lot of difference in distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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