george Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 WIKILEAKS US embassy cables: Russian mafia active in Thailand Quote: "Thailand enjoys a rapid expansion of Russian tourists visiting Thailand but has to deal with an unwanted side effect - the presence of Russian organized crime networks around the popular beach destinations of Pattaya and Phuket. The biggest headline grabber of 2008-09 has likely been the arrest of Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout, whose extradition to the U.S. remains under review by an Appellate Court." Full story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/238045?CMP=twt_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 mafias from all over the world (including the russian ones, as well as from the UK and the other western countries) are in thailand for a long time now - money laundering through local investments (including property market), drugs. Bouts case is a completely different story and should not be connected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hardly surprising really as this article would seem to confirm: The Darker Side of Tropical Bliss: Foreign Mafia in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpling Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. They are the saviours of the universe everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Maybe it is due to the fact that these are information reports intended to report on specific subjects? If the cables origiinated from the Chinese, the subject might be on strategies that could be used to move into foreign oil & gas fields, or if it was from the German embassy, perhaps a cable lamenting the delays with the airport link attributable to corruption and incompetence, etc. etc. These cables were not intended for the general reader but were specific to certain target issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamypoko Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters...duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters...duh! Ohhh is that what it is??? Thanks for your wisdom PS. Internal and International are 2 different things, I am pretty sure even Homer knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamypoko Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters...duh! Ohhh is that what it is??? Thanks for your wisdom PS. Internal and International are 2 different things, I am pretty sure even Homer knew that. Let me try again......"Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters?????...duh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters...duh! Ohhh is that what it is??? Thanks for your wisdom PS. Internal and International are 2 different things, I am pretty sure even Homer knew that. Let me try again......"Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters?????...duh!" yES yES, you right master. State department should be focused on dirt about everyone else and all the wrong doings of everyone else. It SHOULD NOT even mention 1 word of USA involvement in any of the dirt -INTERNATIONALLY NOT INTERNALLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamypoko Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 yES yES, you right master. State department should be focused on dirt about everyone else and all the wrong doings of everyone else. It SHOULD NOT even mention 1 word of USA involvement in any of the dirt -INTERNATIONALLY NOT INTERNALLY. at ease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Do you realise who wrote all these cables? And all the cables show who has the dirt in his mouth and in its mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 these leaks have spared no one really, so why all the complaining about this country or that country? Should've known I'd scroll down and see the same ol' moaners and groaners trying to steer it back around to the USA. The subject was on Russia, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I was following a Farang along today on his scoot, found it a musing to read on the back of his helmet hand written with a black nikko pen " Russian Mafia"................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 these leaks have spared no one really, so why all the complaining about this country or that country? Should've known I'd scroll down and see the same ol' moaners and groaners trying to steer it back around to the USA. The subject was on Russia, correct? This is precisely the point. Cables have implicated almost every single country BUT USA, not even 1 mention of any involvement. Perfect example, would be there is cable about Russian mafia, Burma, etc etc etc, yet no mention of American mafia or American criminals or anything like that. While it is an internal communication, it still comes across as being 1 sided, irrespective if you like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogoso Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Ohhh is that what it is??? Thanks for your wisdom PS. Internal and International are 2 different things, I am pretty sure even Homer knew that. Let me try again......"Right,...State Dept. cables should be focused on internal matters?????...duh!" yES yES, you right master. State department should be focused on dirt about everyone else and all the wrong doings of everyone else. It SHOULD NOT even mention 1 word of USA involvement in any of the dirt -INTERNATIONALLY NOT INTERNALLY. I was about to reply to your missives, when I took a look at your profile. I notice your age was 10 and I wouldn't dream of demeaning a child posting. It's good that someone your age has an interest in events that occur beyond the playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaoPo Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Maybe it is due to the fact that these are information reports intended to report on specific subjects? If the cables origiinated from the Chinese, the subject might be on strategies that could be used to move into foreign oil & gas fields, or if it was from the German embassy, perhaps a cable lamenting the delays with the airport link attributable to corruption and incompetence, etc. etc. These cables were not intended for the general reader but were specific to certain target issues. ..don't be so impatient; after all, only 2 to 3.000 documents have been published, out of 251.000... More to come, and who knows what they publish about China, Thailand, the Koreas, Germany, Japan, Middle East and many more..... I think you're wrong with your assumption that the cables were NOT intended for the general reader...they ARE, otherwise Assange wouldn't have encrypted 251.000 documents, now already downloaded by more than 10.000 individuals around the world, just in case something happens to him. The password will be sent out once something happens to him. A ticking time-bomb and the secret services better think twice before they act, nailing him. They will regret it, most likely. LaoPo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I was about to reply to your missives, when I took a look at your profile. I notice your age was 10 and I wouldn't dream of demeaning a child posting. It's good that someone your age has an interest in events that occur beyond the playground. Thank you for your kindness and kind words, now you just need to stay on topic to show your maturity and interests as well as knowledge. Please use smaller words, as i may not understand them in my age, especially words like "missives" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 "Active" as opposed to what: Passive? We could say that the Swedish Mafia is very Passive in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 these leaks have spared no one really, so why all the complaining about this country or that country? Should've known I'd scroll down and see the same ol' moaners and groaners trying to steer it back around to the USA. The subject was on Russia, correct? Do you realise where the cables come from and who wrote them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 still sending cables? ( telexes) ? you'd think they would use the internet these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) still sending cables? ( telexes) ? you'd think they would use the internet these days The Internet is not secure, big brother is watching Edited December 3, 2010 by Spoonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. They are the saviours of the universe everyone knows that. Yep - just ask them they'll tell you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piengrudee Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 The Russians are just as bad as the Americans. If that make you American happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman60 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Some people just can't wait for the opportunity to attack the US. These cables are no different than any other cables sent by another Embassy of any major power. That is there job to report and act in the best interesst of their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Some people on forum obviously have no idea what the U.S. Dept. of State does. It is just an opportunity to bash the USA. But I dare anyone to come on forum and tell how their country, whatever it is, has done more for the world or has not done anything wrong. I am sure there will be silence about this as the fact is with all its faults and mistakes there is no country better. And Russia is worse than US in every way imaginable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeiY Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Some people on forum obviously have no idea what the U.S. Dept. of State does. It is just an opportunity to bash the USA. But I dare anyone to come on forum and tell how their country, whatever it is, has done more for the world or has not done anything wrong. I am sure there will be silence about this as the fact is with all its faults and mistakes there is no country better. And Russia is worse than US in every way imaginable. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuffki Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Some people on forum obviously have no idea what the U.S. Dept. of State does. It is just an opportunity to bash the USA. But I dare anyone to come on forum and tell how their country, whatever it is, has done more for the world or has not done anything wrong. I am sure there will be silence about this as the fact is with all its faults and mistakes there is no country better. And Russia is worse than US in every way imaginable. Its not about who has bigger ..... or who is better or worse. In none of the cables published USA is even remotely involved in anything, which is far from being the truth. As i said before, this cable is about Russian Mafia, what about USA criminals in Thailand, why does not it address this issue? Why there is no mention of USA porn makers or anything "bad" relating to US or its citizens? They say Russian Mafia is active, how did he come up with this conclusion? Is there a club called Russian Mafia?or Russian Mob runs daily newspaper? I am the last person to bash USA, but the fact still remains, all the cables are very 1 sided, this in no way means the country is bad but the person sending/writing this may be slightly either bias or blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardy1943 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Interesting how all the cables and leaks are dirt about other countries, seems USA is as clean as they come. Apparently you do not know how to read Edited December 4, 2010 by hardy1943 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakseedaa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 these leaks have spared no one really, so why all the complaining about this country or that country? Should've known I'd scroll down and see the same ol' moaners and groaners trying to steer it back around to the USA. The subject was on Russia, correct? This is precisely the point. Cables have implicated almost every single country BUT USA, not even 1 mention of any involvement. Perfect example, would be there is cable about Russian mafia, Burma, etc etc etc, yet no mention of American mafia or American criminals or anything like that. While it is an internal communication, it still comes across as being 1 sided, irrespective if you like it or not. come on...Who cares..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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