Red-Shirt Rally Alert For Bangkok On Sunday

[Buchholz]

Was it in KK that they interfered with the rail service or was that Korat, Nakhon Ratchasima?

Yes, that was Khon Kaen... in the month before their torchings.

They blocked the tracks and commandeered an Army train that was heading to the Deep South with equipment.

Edited January 22, 2011 by Buchholz

[jdinasia]

I think it is about time for me to put together a real timeline of events starting with the red violence in 2007 ... and setting it up as a jpg that I can upload.

for the reds on the board --- interfering with rail service in Thailand affects more Thais than .....

Edited January 22, 2011 by jdinasia

[Siam Simon]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/04/20/the-crushing-of-the-red-shirts/

[jdinasia]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.a...the-red-shirts/

You of ALL people shouldn't be editing other people's posts .......

The Bias of NewMandala has been thoroughly documented.

Speculation about the blueshirts (and who was behind them is just that, speculation. ).. that confronted the reds while they were actively disrupting the ASEAN conference ... is ... speculation Assuming Newin and Suthep were working together is a HUGE stretch (though personally I would not put the blues beyond either of them ... but together? That just isn't credible.

Nick (as a board member) gets the credibility assigned to him as members see fit, though if they look at his "reports" and his admissions of violence on the part of reds ...... well. He has no credibility with me. (personal opinion)

THIS is the post SiamSimon butchered

Again ... absolutely fine with me

You, of course, know that I will call you on what appears to be deliberate obfuscation. You are under no obligation to reply but I will point that out too. BTW --- I think ALL the violence by the reds has been covered in the last 2 weeks on TVF I know that the 2007 violence was. I don't know that the Sept 1/2 2008 attack by the reds on the PAD at Govt house was, but it instigated Samak's SoE so it should be common knowledge for anyone posting about the reds. The Chiang Mai violence has been covered. The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

If this thread were about any group other than the reds ........

Edited January 22, 2011 by jdinasia

[AriosAsia]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.a...the-red-shirts/

I was there, on the hill....can i say the truth? the first day a group in back of the police man whit out color started to throw bottle and stones at the car of the red....i remember very well that day.

I hope, sometimes, all that talk about this matter take their car or motorbike and will go to see whit their eyes, like me.....not only copy and paste link from news paper.

Bye

Edited January 22, 2011 by AriosAsia

[jdinasia]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.a...the-red-shirts/

I was there, on the hill....can i say the truth? the first day a group in back of the police man whit out color started to throw bottle and stones at the car of the red....i remember very well that day.

I hope, sometimes, all that talk about this matter take their car or motorbike and will go to see whit their eyes, like me.....not only copy and paste link from news paper.

Bye

And who were the people that did that? Seh Daeng's people? Newin's? Suthep's? Thaksin's?

Not that I would doubt a new poster ... but ... who were they?

[hanuman1]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.a...the-red-shirts/

I was there, on the hill....can i say the truth? the first day a group in back of the police man whit out color started to throw bottle and stones at the car of the red....i remember very well that day.

I hope, sometimes, all that talk about this matter take their car or motorbike and will go to see whit their eyes, like me.....not only copy and paste link from news paper.

Bye

Thanks for that first hand witness account. I'm fairly sure we can assume that those throwing the bottles and stones were not from the same group as those being targeted with the bottles and stones.

[Siam Simon]

cut// The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

The blue shirt thugs organised by Newin and Suthep at the ASEAN in Pattaya haven't been discussed for a while. They are very much a 'sweep under the carpet' for the forum's right wing extremists. Said extremists prefer to misrepresent a peaceful protest by red shirts there as a violent riot with mass destruction (a plate glass window was broken at the Royal's reception, allegedly due to crowd pressure, and a lot of blades of grass were flattened on the lawns where the army made the protestors sit down after rounding them up from the hotel's reception area).

Good report on the songkran 2009 troubles (with great photos, as usual) by forum member Nick Nostitz here:

http://asiapacific.a...the-red-shirts/

You of ALL people shouldn't be editing other people's posts .......

The Bias of NewMandala has been thoroughly documented.

Speculation about the blueshirts (and who was behind them is just that, speculation. ).. that confronted the reds while they were actively disrupting the ASEAN conference ... is ... speculation Assuming Newin and Suthep were working together is a HUGE stretch (though personally I would not put the blues beyond either of them ... but together? That just isn't credible.

Nick (as a board member) gets the credibility assigned to him as members see fit, though if they look at his "reports" and his admissions of violence on the part of reds ...... well. He has no credibility with me. (personal opinion)

THIS is the post SiamSimon butchered

Again ... absolutely fine with me

You, of course, know that I will call you on what appears to be deliberate obfuscation. You are under no obligation to reply but I will point that out too. BTW --- I think ALL the violence by the reds has been covered in the last 2 weeks on TVF I know that the 2007 violence was. I don't know that the Sept 1/2 2008 attack by the reds on the PAD at Govt house was, but it instigated Samak's SoE so it should be common knowledge for anyone posting about the reds. The Chiang Mai violence has been covered. The Violence of 2009 both in BKK and at the ASEAN meeting in Pattaya have been brought up ....

If this thread were about any group other than the reds ........

I made it clear I'd edited your post and was replying to the part I left in. I've made my opinion about editing other peoples' posts quite clear several times, such as in my post here:

Are Nick's photos doctored? Do you have any proof that the red shirts were violent at the Pattaya ASEAN?

It's a HUGE stretch that Newin and Suthep work together? Ho ho ho:

http://asiancorrespondent.com/18285/newin-on-video-in-pattaya-ordering-people-around-update/

Dig the baseball cap .

More:

Nick provides eyewitness information backed up by excellent photographic evidence. And he posts occasionally on here in an utterly reasonable manner, refusing to be wound up by forum right wing extremists who try to wind him up. Of course he doesn't have any credibility with you: He provides truths that make you uncomfortable because they don't fit the propaganda that you post.

And on the subject of the thread, you made a contentious statement (presented as fact, as is your wont) about the protest at the Pattaya ASEAN, so I've offered an alternative opinion backed up by some photo and video evidence.

Edited January 22, 2011 by Siam Simon

[Buchholz]

I've made my opinion about editing other peoples' posts quite clear several times, such as in my post here:

Utilizing forum Admin's guidelines, that were posted subsequent to the above post:

Everybody, please follow this rule of forum netiquette:

5. Please do not quote multiple nested quotes. Quote only the relevant section that you are discussing. Moderators will snip excessively long nested quotes.

There are far too many posts not observing this courtesy and from this point forward such posts may simply be removed rather than edited.

I would quote this relevant section from the previous post:

Nick provides eyewitness information backed up by excellent photographic evidence.

I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from the person that self-proclaimed himself as,

"I think I'm the best known foreign journalist in Thailand."

- Nick Nostitz / May 18, 2010

http://blogs.abc.net.au/canberra/2010/05/caught-in-the-crossfire.html?site=canberra&program=canberra_breakfast

Edited January 22, 2011 by Buchholz

[webfact]

Reds to rally at 1pm then march

By THE NATION ON SUNDAY

Published on January 23, 2011

About 1,500 metropolitan police will be deployed at the red-shirt rally today while another 2,000 backup officers will be on standby, police spokesman Prawut Thavornsiri said via Twitter yesterday.

The red-shirt rally will start at 1pm at Ratchaprasong Intersection. At about 3pm, the group will march through Pratunam and Phetburi Road to Democracy Monument on Rajdamnoen Road. Their activities will end at midnight.

The anti-government red-shirts plan rallies twice a month to commemorate clashes with the military during a big protest last year.

The red shirts' 'June 24 for Democracy' faction has announced it will rally on Tuesday, the same day as a mass rally by the yellow-shirt movement.

The group will gather at Democracy Monument from 7pm to midnight. Meanwhile, the People's Alliance for Democracy will hold a mass rally at the Makkhawan Bridge. PAD leaders vowed to prolong their rally until their demands are met.

The PAD wants the government to cancel the 2000 memorandum of understanding on settling border disputes, to withdraw as a member of the World Heritage Committee and to expel all Cambodians from Thailand.

-- The Nation 2011-01-23

[toenail]

The Red's demonstrations last spring has created more negative PR against them than positive. I haven't runned into any one from BKK, including workers from Isaan, thinking the demonstrations were "great". Even a couple Isaan taxi drivers (who said they supported the Red Shirt movement) were upset about last spring's demonstrations. They could not make enough baht to pay the rent on their taxi and the one Isaan taxi driver (who was buying his taxi car) faced serious financial problems. I still think with the mentality of many of the Red Shirts, Abhisit should give each farm a cow and some farm subsidies. These people need to see materialistic results in front of their eyes NOW (use Thaksin's money). Waiting for improvement with the education or better bank loans will not be quick enough to satisfy the Reds's concern. Thaksin took this route, that is why he was so popular with them.

[sbk]

Off topic personal arguments have been deleted. This is not the time nor the place for whatever little games you are playing out with each other. This topic is in reference to the current red shirt rally so please lets keep it focused on that.

Step over the line again and I will suspend you.

[Robby nz]

Been out of the country for a while and thought I woild look at this thread to see if I could find out something new.

But all I see is a senceless personal arguement.

Think there should be a thread for "senceless personal arguements".

Then possibly we could stay on the topics.

Oh Oh thats off topic .... sorry.

You beat me too it Mod.

Edited January 23, 2011 by Robby nz

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