Requirements For An Australian Tourist Visa

[egg]

l am hoping to take the family (wife and 2 kids) to Aus in April ,, we have tickets to and from ,, accommodation provided for the 5 weeks(and a letter to support that) ,,a letter from my wife's boss(she is a teacher),, 400,000Bt in her bank account , now this maybe where the problem is ,, the money has only been deposited for a few days(average deposit from 1,000 to 100,000, more the lower),,,, will the visa mob accept this or would they want the money to be deposited for a longer term . My wife has been to Roi-Et and spoken with a courier business(or a person that works there)and she is of the opinion that they would not accept the bank statement and if so , would want to know where the money came from ,,, l find this a little hard to believe ,,, my wife has been to Aus before ,, and l am sure we had no such problems then ,,,,,

any advice/help very much appreciated

cheers egg

[rodcourt49]

..recent requirement was money (min 80,000 baht) in 6 weeks prior to the date the visa is granted..Always a case by case assessment..best make a quick call to Australia embassy in BKK to clarify.

[egg]

..recent requirement was money (min 80,000 baht) in 6 weeks prior to the date the visa is granted..Always a case by case assessment..best make a quick call to Australia embassy in BKK to clarify.

Thanks for that Rod ,,, much appreciated ,,,, but a "quick" call to the embassy is nearly impossible l have found ,,, but l will certainly be trying again on monday ,,

cheers Dave

[mystwoodcol]

..recent requirement was money (min 80,000 baht) in 6 weeks prior to the date the visa is granted..Always a case by case assessment..best make a quick call to Australia embassy in BKK to clarify.

Thanks for that Rod ,,, much appreciated ,,,, but a "quick" call to the embassy is nearly impossible l have found ,,, but l will certainly be trying again on monday ,,

cheers Dave

Dave get your wife to make the call I have found you get a better result if the Thai wife talks to one of the girls there then farang making the call

[whybother]

The main things they are looking for are support when they are there and particularly reasons to come back.

If you have a job here and you will be coming back and she is your wife, I don't really think you will have a problem.

[Theo007]

Dave,

From my experience if your wife has already been granted a visa previously and honoured the conditions then the second one should not be a problem and the third one will be ever easier.

[Synastry]

It is not necessary to supply her bankbook/account balance if you are her sponsor, just supply 3 months of your bank statements. My TGF didn't supply the bankbook on her first Tourist Visa and was approved for one month.

[aperturebkk]

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the above email is the one you want. she has a direct line but best you get that from her - 5 star help from aus embassy

[peterpop]

I have just successfully obtained a Visa for my wife to visit Australia with me in April. I did NOT include any evidence of wealth. I attached 3 months statements of routine bank activity and a Barclaycard Statement that I had access to 8500 pds credit.

I emphasized my travel itinerary was to stay with Australian citizens [relation and friend], I showed evidence of need to return to Thailand to put girls back into school/university, I showed marriage certificate and history of relationship. Wife had old visa from UK for visit last year in her passport. Otherwise all the usual passport copies etc. I am UK citizen with Thai wife.

Permision granted in 7 days using courier facility VHS from Chiang Mai.

..recent requirement was money (min 80,000 baht) in 6 weeks prior to the date the visa is granted..Always a case by case assessment..best make a quick call to Australia embassy in BKK to clarify.

[bridge]

With regards to recently deposited funds, see the below link:

Bridge

[Madivad]

What about your income/wealth? I've taken my wife to Aust twice and neither time did we show her bankbook details. I just provided the latest statement for each if my credit cards and mortgage details and that was sufficient. I know Everyones circumstances are different, but it is a case by case basis they approve these things. Just pump up your case to make it look better (ie if you think her bank records aren't so great)... Good luck

[thommo46]

48r.pdfHere is the form required and info needed for tourist visa.

[Iamemjay]

I'm with whybother on this. All they will want finance-wise is evidence that you will be able to support her.

On my first application for my then wife-to-be they gave her AND me one hell of a going over for 4 months before they approved it. Second time no problems, third time, approval within 48 hours with only the basic set of paperwork including just bank statements. I didn't even go in or use the courier service - posted it (I'm in the far North).

I doubt if you'll have any problems provided you submit the paperwork in full.

[samran]

you also asked about your kids in the title.

Presumably you've got them hooked up with Australian passports?

[thommo46]

1127.pdfWhile we're at it . This is the latest Help Booklet from Aus. Immigration on Partner Migration to Australia.

Thommo.

[eyeluvthai]

Hi all, I am a newcomer to this excellent forum....can I add to the questions please and get a little advice...

• Met my lady Roi-Et, Feb/March 2010...we are not married
• Fell pregnant at the time..yes 100 % me..!!
• I went back to Thai for the birth (due late December) but he came prem early November
• I went to Thai Dec...just back Jan '11
• My intention is to bring them back to OZ
• While I was there, got them both Thai Passports
• When I go back end of year, next move is to obtain Citizenship by Decent for my little boy..I have all the docs..travel movements proving conception time, I am in the family book and on the birth certificate, history pics, emails, skype etc (all translated/certified)
• Then apply for Australian Passport for my son
• After the above, apply for Tourist Visa for my lady ( I believe this is the easiest and least expensive to first apply for)
• Having a child together that has duel Passports should give good weight to her Visa application ?

Just wondering all, is my planning on the right track ?

Appreciate any words of advice...cheers all...

[thommo46]

I just posted all the info you need for Partner Visa , Download pdf 1127.

Try to get sons Aussie passport ASAP. Why bother with tourist visa. (they see son with passport,dad with passport and Thai mum wanting a tourist visa , not a good sign for her to return to Thailand.)When you return to Thailand go to Local Amphor and get married , then apply for spousal visa in thailand why you are there. If sons Aussie passport not ready put his name in with spousal visa. Once son has citizen of descent he cannot enter Australia on a Tourist visa. All the info you need is in the Booklet.

Thommo.

[Madivad]

Eyeluvthai, along the line of what thommo said. One thing they wantbto see is a reason for her to return. If you and son have Aussie passports, and (thinking) you have stable employ in Aus, what incentive has she got to return?

Further, they WILL automatically impose a condition (8503) in her visa that she cannot apply for any further visa while she is in Aus. ie, she will HAVE to return anyway to go the partner visa, so may as well just do that from the outset.

It's a PITA, but I wish now I'd gone the partner visa off the bat, although I can't complain because now I get to live here! :-)

[gburns57au]

There has been some bad advice given here so far....

Recently deposited funds as indicate by Bridge's post may well be seen as stacking the mill. It will cast doubt on the application being genuine. If the partner is supporting the application then it is his funds and evidence of support that becomes important.

Eyeluvthai.....There is nothing wrong with your plan and how you want to proceed is entirely up to you....having the tourist visa first will give the GF a chance to see Oz and see if she likes it enough to want to live here, because if she doesnt it will make life hard for both of you. It will also give some history to your relationship if you want to go down the spouse visa track later. Yes, the visitor visa is the less expensive option as against spouse or prospective spouse visas.

Your post indicates that you are in no hurry even with the new bub, as you have known her only 11 months that may be a good thing in the long run

[eyeluvthai]

Thanks thommo46, Madivad and gburns57au for your comments. I can see merit in all your comments....

Thommo and Madivad, I see what you say about 'reason to return', she has no official emplyment and minimal funds. But my thinking is that I am guarantor / sponsor / father of our child and would ensure she returns honoring her Tourist Visa conditions, post a bond if required (do they ever ask for this ?), and highly unlikely to 'run away' from her first and only child.......

I realize that we may not be able to extend the TVisa, and returning all together at the end of the TVisa would suit us...be it 3 or 6 months....she would like to go back to see her mum / family, etc....a little daunting for her to jump into OZ permanently at this stage.

And gburns, yes that was along my lines of thinking.....creating more history of our relationship (only approx 11 months to date), and her having the opportunity to see if she likes OZ, and if she likes it and we are solid, we can marry back in Thai when we all go back after the TVisa.

And no major hurry, I could see it may take a year or two going down this track, me coming and going, her coming and going (TVISA) but all the while creating more history for an eventual Spouse Visa....view to permanancy.....

Looks like I got a little thinking to do...cheers

[eyeluvthai]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

[Madivad]

No probs, just pLaying devils advocate here... We were going along those routes, building a (documented) relationship. With me going there, and her coming here. Everything very supported with travel plans, photos and the like. It worked for two tourist visas for her, but on the second one they actually rang her and told her, "last one."

They basically said that since we have a relationship, she can no longer be a tourist and that she has to go by way of partner next time, they further threw a spanner in the works by imposing that dreaded 8503! I suppose, I just gave them too much information.

Since its her first trip here, I do think they will look more closely at it (initially), subsequent trips are usually easier. I really think we shot ourselves in the foot another way, but that's another story. I do think they will have some concerns about her NEED to return, since (possibly) her future life is now in Oz with you and your/her son. I would just emphasize in the application her desire to visit you, your family and your country, but that her life is in Thailand... I think you know what I mean..

[Madivad]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

Ahhhh, this is a good one... I can vouch that you can and do get a second crack (possibly 3rd and subsequent cracks - although they will ask many questions), just make sure youre honest up and front with both the embassy (you don't have a choice, because they already know - just give them details as to why things failed), AND your next prospective candidate. Because, remember, you are now in Thailand and dealing with thais in the embassy (albeit Australian embassy), but don't for a second ever assume you have the presumption of privacy. They WILL tell her during the process, and make sur she is fully aware of your previous application and the reasons as to why things went sour. A mate of mine was up front about it all with his misses, but did get a little ticked off when #2 started asking questions about #1 with things that just hadn't come up yet (ie, between them, but the embassy had no compunction about just blurting it all out to her). He knew it was about to happen because they asked him a myriad of questions about the first relationship, and then when they appeared satisfied, they asked hum to put her on, and then just told her everyone anyway.

Yes, I realize that there should be honesty in every relationship, but the are somethings that I would presume could be left private. I mean, do we all discuss our previous partners with out current partners? Is it any of their business? I couldn't give two hoots about my wife's previous partners... I know of them, but I needent know any more than that. Just thought I would impart that, since after all I suppose it's just one thai looking out for another... At the expense of your privacy on the matter.

Then again, if you're up to number 5, then maybe she should know everything lol

[gburns57au]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

There are restrictions.

Not sure of the exact details, it is on the website somewhere......it has been discussed here before.

[Madivad]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

While looking up something else I found this:

When you may not be eligible

You may not be able to sponsor your partner if any one of the following applies:

you are not an Australian citizen, Australian permanent resident or eligible New Zealand citizen

you have previously sponsored two other partners for migration to Australia (including sponsorships you may have withdrawn where your former partner obtained permanent residence on family violence grounds)

you have sponsored another partner within the last five years

you were sponsored for a partner visa as a partner yourself within the last five years

you are the holder of a Woman at Risk visa (Subclass 204)

you have a conviction or an outstanding charge for an offence against a child.

If you have previously sponsored or been sponsored, you may still be permitted to sponsor your partner in compelling circumstances, such as:

if your previous partner has died or abandoned the relationship leaving young children

if your relationship with your current partner is long standing (that is, two years or more)

if you and your current partner have dependent children of your relationship.

I'm working on the iPad, so can't cut and paste multiple things, but you can find the info on the dept of immigration site...

Search for visa, partner visa, applying outside austrailia, eligibility to be sponsor and the info is there...

[Will27]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

AFAIK, there are no restictions for the number of tourist visa's.

Although the more with differtent partners will obviously be

scrutinized heavily.

There are some for spouse/partners though.

IMHO, that's why it's best in most cases to begin

with a tourist visa to see how things go. Too many

people on this forum advise to apply for a spouse

visa after 5 minutes.

Regards

Will

[egg]

Hi folks ,,,thanks to Rod,Bridge,Theo007,Graham,Mystwoodcol,Madivad, and Aperturebkk (could you please PM me that email address),,,,,,,,,, forget about me as a sponsor ,,, nothing dodgey ,, just the way circumstances are at the moment ,,, l think we will just let the money sit for a month or so and use the bank account(which usually we dont, l hate banks, but they are the same as death and taxes),,,, and then apply , with as many supporting documents as l can get ,,,,, l am not too concerned ,, everything is above board and l have faith in the system (until it stuffs me up),,,,,, and lastly ,, she has to come back ,, for her teaching and also the 2 partime businesses she runs ,, without that l will starve ,,,

cheers and thanks again

Dave

[gburns57au]

All, just another sideline question.....if my lady came to OZ for holiday, didnt like, didnt work out, wanted to live Thai, etc.....would I ever have another oportunity in the future to bring someone else ?....I mean surely they must limit how many times you can do this ? Or do you only get 1 crack at it ?

Cheers all....

AFAIK, there are no restictions for the number of tourist visa's.

Although the more with differtent partners will obviously be

scrutinized heavily.

There are some for spouse/partners though.

IMHO, that's why it's best in most cases to begin

with a tourist visa to see how things go. Too many

people on this forum advise to apply for a spouse

visa after 5 minutes.

Regards

Will

The Official stance from Immigration is That they reserve the right to limit how many Tourist visas are issued to any one person. Basically they can do what they want.

[thommo46]

Look at post 15 it has pdf booklet on info your after. It is now January and you say you will go back to Thailand at the end of the year and do all paper work for Citizen of Descent , passport for son ,all this takes times ,how long are you staying for on your next visit.You say you want all this done and then get your gf a tourist visa. If possible get someone to take care of your new babe and get her to Australia on a tourist visa, possibly a 3 month multi entry visa which allows her 3 months stay at a time. If she likes to stay on ,go for a short trip to NZ , Figi and re-enter Aus again for a further 3 month stay. She can go home and come back again on this visa. After 12 months she should know if she could handle living in Aus with you and child. If you and her are happy still, get married (I had a celebrant, got married filled out all the paper for spousal visa , she went home and lodged visa in Bangkok , included her 6 y/o son on visa . Both been living in oz 2 years next month and preparing permanent residency visa at the moment.) Cheaper to lodge spousal visa in Thailand than in Aus. There is more to it thenwhat is written above , if you get on Australian immigration website there is a wealth of correct info.

Thommo.

[fishhooks]

Is there much "practical" difference in applying for a permanent visa for my TW's 8 yr old son to join us in Australia, between applying here or in Bangkok?

Wife has had PR for about a year, we have been together for about 5 years. Son was of course in the original 309/100 application and had to have a medical, but was not an applicant to travel at that time.

I guess it will be virtually a fresh application, I think with the same fees etc as an original application.

Father in Thailand has not been seen or heard of for a few years.