hpwheelman Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 So I was just today gifted a bike, that I have only barley seen and know very little about. Am going to make further inspection on it later this week. However I do know that it is missing its green book (taken by the owner before the one who gifted it to me) and has not been registered in a "long time". Not sure how long. While I do have some info to find out, I am fairly positive the bike is not stolen and want to know what the process is for making it legal and getting it in my name. And to find out roughly what the registration late fee, new green book and penalties will cost. I am in Bangkok. Also looking for a good repair shop, as the bike has been sitting for some time. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotlost Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 U will never get the bike registered without the original green book. Have fun an keep ur head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBikeBKK Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 it is missing its green book (taken by the owner before the one who gifted it to me) So if I'm reading this right, the person who "gifted" this bike to you doesn't actually own it... Nice... Part it out and buy a new bike. Ride On T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I think that unless you have the original owners (name in green book) ID card copy or death certificate you have pretty much no chance of getting a new book. What bike is it. As BBBKK said it may be better to part it out or sell it as is. depends on what bike it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What kind of bike is this? Seems like it is going to be a major hassle, so unless it's something really cool..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you do not have any signed and verified docs from registered owner including signed copy of ID, you may be arrested for theft. Anyone using someone else vehicle should have a written permission or at least two witnesses when handed over vehicle from registered owner. The reg process is another civil case matter, and not as important as above mentioned criminal case scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Chances of legalizing are slim to none.. Risks of riding it range from being fined for not having tax, registrations, etc all the way up to theft if the book holder reported it stolen. If your anywhere not very rural.. Probably worth more as parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpwheelman Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thanks everyone. Not sure what kind of bike, but it's a cruser, and the engine looked bigger then your standard 200cc honda, but I have only cought glanses of it under a tarp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 What you could attempt to do, not legally of course, is find a 'grey book' for it and have the numbers restamped. Its not legal of course, but if done well its very hard to tell and I have never seen a properly done one (where the exact bike, model, and age matched) cause problems. Just depends on what bike it is and if a book can be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpwheelman Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Well like I said, trying to do this legally. But thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Really, how do you know it's not stolen? It seems really iffy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Drop the tarp and move on, something free can be more expensive than something paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpwheelman Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Well took a look at the bike today, I was wrong. It is a Phantom 150. The person who is giving it to me is checking with the authorities (his buddy works somewhere in licencing or something) about tracking down and retrieving or replacing the green book. If that clears I will keep the bike as it is in very nice condition and I could use a daily commuter. If not, well like some of you said, free can cost more sometimes. And its not worth it for a widely available Honda Phantom. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Is the Phantom 150 2 stroke? If so maybe very, very difficult to renew green book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbox Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 yep the 150 phantom is a 2-stroker ...from what i been told it runs pretty nicely too. ..how about reporting the green book lost by last legal owner? mbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
submaniac Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Phantom 2 stroke is actually somewhat cool. The 2 stroke engine would help fix the underpowered nature of the phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Is the Phantom 150 2 stroke? If so maybe very, very difficult to renew green book. liquid cooled 150 2-stroke, more powerfull than 200 4-stroke aircooled, must be +8 years old If de registered not more than 3 years, a replacement book should be easy by registered owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Is the Phantom 150 2 stroke? If so maybe very, very difficult to renew green book. liquid cooled 150 2-stroke, more powerfull than 200 4-stroke aircooled, must be +8 years old If de registered not more than 3 years, a replacement book should be easy by registered owner I agree. But if over 3 years then it's gonna be hard cos it's a 2t.. And i remember renting one on Samui about 41/2 years ago.. strange little bike, chopper style but she would pick up her skirts and accelerate well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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