Seven Thai Red Shirt Leaders Freed On Bail

[Buchholz]

meanwhile, another Red Shirt rally is coming...

NSC confident officers can handle UDD rally

BANGKOK, 1 March 2011 (NNT) – The National Security Council (NSC) is positive that security officers will be able to handle the upcoming mass gathering of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) on 12 March 2011.

According to NSC Secretary-General Tawin Pleansri, the UDD are simply exercising their rights to assemble accorded them under the constitution. There will be no problem as long as the eight UDD core figures recently released on bail breached no bail conditions prescribed by the court.

The secretary-general has voiced his confidence that security officers would be able to maintain peace and order as well as keep the situation under control.

-- NNT 2011-03-01

[Buchholz]

meanwhile, another Red Shirt rally is coming...

NSC confident officers can handle UDD rally

BANGKOK, 1 March 2011 (NNT) – The National Security Council (NSC) is positive that security officers will be able to handle the upcoming mass gathering of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) on 12 March 2011.

According to NSC Secretary-General Tawin Pleansri, the UDD are simply exercising their rights to assemble accorded them under the constitution. There will be no problem as long as the eight UDD core figures recently released on bail breached no bail conditions prescribed by the court.

And another Red Shirt rally even sooner...

Thai "red-shirts" plan to organize massive rally in Lopburi on March 6

An anti-government or the "red- shirt" coordinator in central Lopburi province said on Tuesday that the group plans to organize massive rally on March 6 from 06: 00 p.m. local time. Police Colonel Chukiat Duangchana, the co-leader of "red-shirt" movement in Lopburi, said that an estimated 25,000 supporters from the central region as well as others are expected to turn out on that day.

Stage speech delivered by recently released leaders -- Nutthawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn -- would highlight the activity on that day, according to Chukiat. Nutthawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn are among seven detained "red-shirt" leaders who were released temporarily on bails by the Criminal Court on Feb. 22 which banned them from leaving the country or inciting their supporters to stir unrest.

Continues:

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7305111.html

Xinhua - March 2, 2011

[Buchholz]

and now... news of a THIRD Red Shirt rally...

7 red-shirt leaders to join March 12 rally

The seven red-shirt leaders will take part in the March 12 rally despite a warning to revoke their bail and the protest might last all night long coinciding with the following morning's censure vote, organisers said Wednesday.

"The protests will take place on March 12 and again on March 19 in order to demand justice for 150 red shirts still held in remand," Reds Shirt chairwoman Thida Thawornseth said.

Thida said the rallies will continue until all the red shirts are freed from jail, arguing they have been unfairly held in remand despite weak evidence and politically-motivated charges.

-- NNT 2011-03-03

[Buchholz]

Maybe it has been writtern somewhere but I just havn`t seen it.

Can anybody tell me then when the famous 7 are next due in court to agrue the charges??

I wonder if them appearing at the next rally will increase the numbers...

Yes, by seven.

Add 3 more to that list. Seems that Jatuporn will be bringing back three more; Arisiman, Suporn, and Adisorn who fled the country rather than facing charges.

"I will bring those people back to fight court cases in Thailand. They will surrender and should get bail so that they can join the red shirt movement's fight," said Jatuporn, who is also an MP from the opposition Pheu Thai Party."

Guess Thailand has no laws in regards to an MP knowing the whereabouts of wanted fugitives on the run. Aiding and abetting?

Fugitive Red Leaders To Return

"I will bring those people back to fight court cases in Thailand. They will surrender and should get bail so that they can join the red shirt movement's fight," Jatuporn said.

?Staggering that they would actually expect to get bail after being international fugitives for 9 months ???!

At least the ones that got bailed yesterday have been incarcerated since voluntarily surrendering at the time of the blow-up and they didn't flee and run around for all this time.

Do these fugitive returning Red Shirts actually believe they should be treated the same as those that surrendered and have been locked up for the past 9 months ????!

Can't they see the DOUBLE STANDARD at issue ?

Can't they see themselves as textbook examples of "Flight Risks" ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKgx8uYV9DY&feature=related

one of them, Adisorn (file video above), turned himself in today

Fugitive Adisorn surrenders to DSI

Fugitive red leader Adisorn Piengket on Thursday reported himself to the Department of Special Investigation to face terrorism charges in connection with last year's riots.

Accompanied by former commerce minister Watthana Muangsuk, Adisorn met with DSI director general Tharit Pengdit before booking and giving his statement.

-- The Nation 2011-03-09

[Buchholz]

Leading Red Shirt activist Adisorn, charged with terrorism turns himself in at DSI, seeking bail after questioning by investigators /MCOT

[Buchholz]

It'll be interesting to see if Adisorn is granted bail after being on the run from the law for the past nine months.

Meanwhile, the other Red Shirt Leaders risking losing theirs...

DSI Chief to Ask for Revocation of Bail if Red Leaders Take Rally Stage

The Chief of the Department of Special Investigations Tharit Pengdit said he will immediately petition the court to revoke bail granted to seven red shirt leaders if they take to the rally stage scheduled for March 12.

He said an appearance by the leaders would directly violate conditions set by the court for them not to engage in political gatherings.

-- Tan Network 2011-03-10

Edited March 10, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

the wrong entity asked...

Court rejects DSI's request for revocation of 7 red-shirt leaders' bail

The Criminal Court Wednesday rejected the request by the Department of Special Investigation to revoke bail of the seven red-shirt leaders.

The court ruled at 3 pm that the DSI had not authority to submit the request.

The court said since the case against the seven leaders was being tried by the court, the public prosecutors should be the one to ask the court to consider whether the bail should be request or not.

The DSI reasoned in the request that the seven leaders violated the bail application by joining the March 12 rally.

-- The Nation 2011-03-16

[Buchholz]

getting the correct entity to ask...

DSI Hands Over Evidence to Revoke Red Shirt Bail to Prosecutor

The Department of Special Investigation has handed over all its evidence related to the petition to revoke bail granted to red shirt leaders to the public prosecutors.

Yesterday, the court turned down the agency's petition, citing that the right to do so now rests with the Attorney General's Office.

-- Tan Network 2011-03-17

[vont]

And now....

the chief of the DSI is going back to court, barely less than a week went by, since the temporary release of the 7;

to ask the court to revoke bails from those reds participating in last week public rally,

which is a violation of the conditional release imposed upon the seven....

we'll see if the court has the gut to revoke per petition by the DSI....

[Buchholz]

while trying to push one group back into prison...another group...

Court Releases Additional Red Shirts on Bail

The Criminal Court has released an additional three red shirt supporters on bail.

They were initially in custody for terrorism charges.

The conditions of their bail are similiar to those who were earlier released, that is, to stay in the country and not incite further violence.

-- Tan Network 2011-03-17

[Buchholz]

Bail Revocation Again Sought for Red-shirt Leaders

The special investigation agency today petitioned the state attorney office to seek revocation of bail for seven red-shirt leaders for allegedly violating the bail condition imposed by the court.

Those seven red-shirt core elements are Nutthawut Saikua, Weng Tojirakarn, Korkaew Pikulthong, Nisit Sinthuprai, Kwanchai Praipana, Wiputhalaeng Patthanaphumthai and Yoswaris Chuklom.

The evidence submitted by the Department of Special Investigation, or DSI, investigator Police Lieutenant-Colonel Thawal Mangkang to the prosecutor of the Office of the Attorney General's Department of Special Litigation, Kittisak Wongsawat, included news photos and recordings of those seven red-shirt leaders' speeches during the group's rally last Saturday.

Thawal said the evidence suggested they violated the court's bail condition that bans them from provoking or supporting people to commit crime.

Kittisak said he will put forward the petition to his department's chief Thanapitch Mulpruek for his decision whether to file it with the court.

He noted consideration on the matter would take some time.

Thawal said even though the DSI has no power to revoke bail, monitoring the activities of those seven red-shirt elements is within the scope of its duty.

The DSI's request for the state attorney office's help came in response to the Criminal Court's rejection of the complaint by its Director General Tharit Pengdit, asking for removal of bail granted to those seven red-shirt elements.

The court recommended that the DSI has no authority to petition for the bail revocation given such a request must be filed by public prosecutors.

-- Tan Network 2011-03-17

[Buchholz]

Lawyers Challenge Bid to Revoke Red-shirt Leaders' Bail

The legal team representing the red-shirt group has filed a petition against the Department of Special Investigation's attempt to revoke bail for seven red-shirt leaders.

The legal team representing the red shirt group, led by Karom Pontaklang, has filed a petition with the special prosecutor, challenging the Department of Special Investigation, or DSI's, bid to revoke bail for seven core red-shirt leaders, such as Nattawut Saikua, Weng Tojirakarn and Korkaew Pikulthong.

On Wednesday, the DSI submitted evidence to the special prosecutor showing that the released red-shirt leaders have violated their bail conditions by inciting unrest at the political rally on March 12 and asked for their bail to be canceled.

The legal team claimed that the red-shirt leaders did not break the court-issued bail agreement.

It also asserted that the DSI is biased and has been working without transparency on issues outside of its authority, such as when it attempted to revoke bail for Pheu Thai MP and red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan.

-- Tan Network 2011-03-18

[vont]

A couple of years back, most Thai were very enthus with the new Apisit admin.

But it appears at the moment things have changed significantly.

Two years of mostly inactivity in terms of drafting new laws and orders to improve life in general,

what we hear most is the immense extent of corruption going on within the ministry and govt itself.

Especially, with the case of assisting the so-called terrorists being releasing from jail and the losing of Thai territory to Cambodian.

Inasmuch as I like the original Democrat.... not sure if they could earn my vote of confidence any long.

Edited March 18, 2011 by vont

[Buchholz]

* off-topic comments snipped *

I think you're on the wrong thread.

This one is about how the terrorist suspect Red Shirt Leaders were freed from prison on bail and the efforts to put them back in again.

You could try posting in this other thread, perhaps as a reply to:

ABAC Poll: People keep faith with PM Abhisit

[whybother]

Was there a red shirt protest yesterday? Did anyone turn up?

[rubl]

Was there a red shirt protest yesterday? Did anyone turn up?

I remember having seen some newsflashes mentioning 300 policemen and a few thousand protesters moving from Ratchaprasong to Democracy Monument. Probably around 2-3PM yesterday. After that nothing, nothing at all.

Must have been such a success that the government blocked the news

[Buchholz]

Was there a red shirt protest yesterday? Did anyone turn up?

I remember having seen some newsflashes mentioning 300 policemen and a few thousand protesters moving from Ratchaprasong to Democracy Monument. Probably around 2-3PM yesterday. After that nothing, nothing at all.

Must have been such a success that the government blocked the news

Perhaps some sort of difficulty with receiving the wire transfer from a Montenegrin bank.

The former prime minister asked the lawyer to open a bank account in Montenegro Republic. However, the lawyer convinced him to open a new bank account under the suspects’ name, claiming that the European Authorities might seize the amount in case of political pressure.

[jdinasia]

"unprecedented"

Perhaps the reds saw what a dismal failure the censure debate was and gave up? (.... well one can always hope!.......)

[Buchholz]

the apparently small gathering were treated to a Thaksin-Talk...

not from Africa this time... but apparently Montenegro :

Thaksin denies being the cause of problems in Thailand

BANGKOK, March 20 2011 (NNT) – During his phone-in speech to the red-shirt rally on Saturday night, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra denied being the cause of the problems of the country as accused.

According to the former Prime Minister, he is in good health and has been to Europe visiting red shirts living in the EU.

Thaksin rebutted the claims made by the government during the censure debate that the deaths of the members of the red shirt were caused by their fellow protesters.

He also flatly denied allegations that he was the core of all the troubles besetting the country.

The atmosphere of the rally, held under tight security, was peaceful; no violence was reported. The red shirts have been holding rallies twice a month for the past three months, right after the emergency decree has been lifted.

-- NNT 2011-03-20

Edited March 20, 2011 by Buchholz

[Nisa]

Thaksin denies being the cause of problems in Thailand

Is the record stuck again?

[Buchholz]

Despite the Thaksin Talk, the purported ever-growing Red Shirt group of "it's not about Thaksin" came out in full force yesterday...

A Thai anti-government "red shirt" protester holds a picture of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra during a rally at the Democracy monument in Bangkok March 19, 2011.

REUTERS

[Buchholz]

Some more democracy advocates who swear it's not about Thaksin...

Thai anti-government "red shirt" protesters wear hats with pictures of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra during a rally at the Democracy monument in Bangkok March 19, 2011.

REUTERS

[Buchholz]

You can almost hear the loud chanting from this third group, "It's not about Thaksin. It's not about Thaksin"...

A Thai anti-government "red shirt" protester holds a picture of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and another waves a Thai flag during a rally at the Democracy monument in Bangkok March 19, 2011.

REUTERS

[otherstuff1957]

Was there a red shirt protest yesterday? Did anyone turn up?

Yes, I forgot that they were out protesting on the 19th and got stuck in traffic for a couple of hours. Here's a pic I took while waiting:

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for a change, this group didn't have a Thaksin flag.

Edited March 21, 2011 by otherstuff1957

[Insight]

Drove past three coaches on Sukhumvit road on Saturday which looked like they were heading towards Ratchaprasong. Flyers stuck on the back of the bus indicated they were part of the same group.

What was interesting was that people at the side of the road were taking photos of the bus, and getting quite close to it while doing so. The people taking photos didn't appear to be supportive of them either - wife suggested the photos were probably going to be used as proof on forums online that red shirts we're being bussed in.

[animatic]

Thaksin denies being the cause of problems in Thailand

Is the record stuck again?

No it was recorded from an infinite loop.

[whybother]

Drove past three coaches on Sukhumvit road on Saturday which looked like they were heading towards Ratchaprasong. Flyers stuck on the back of the bus indicated they were part of the same group.

What was interesting was that people at the side of the road were taking photos of the bus, and getting quite close to it while doing so. The people taking photos didn't appear to be supportive of them either - wife suggested the photos were probably going to be used as proof on forums online that red shirts we're being bussed in.

I don't see a problem with busing in protesters, as long as they are not being paid to get on the buses.

[hyperdimension]

for a change, this group didn't have a Thaksin flag.

It must be the communist faction of the red shirt movement.

[hammered]

for a change, this group didn't have a Thaksin flag.

It must be the communist faction of the red shirt movement.

It is likely more a fashion statement than an ideological one

[rubl]

I don't see a problem with busing in protesters, as long as they are not being paid to get on the buses.

If every bus could have been 40 odd cars / pickups I rather have the buses I must admit