I wonder if someone could tell what to do on this situation... I have a three month old thai daughter, born in Thailand from Thai mother already registered as Thai ( she has a Thai birth certificate and a a Thai passport already ). The fact is that as I want both mother and her to come to my country ( Portugal ) we have decided to register the Baby at the Portuguese Embassy in Bangkok. When we registered the Baby due to Portuguese Law reg she was given a diferent name i.e instead of the thai name Numoi Thammarat she was given the name Noemia Thammarat Costa, this means she will have two passports with two different names. My question is when I leave Thailand to come with her to Portugal will I have problems at Thai immigration - well if I use Thai passport she wont have a Visa for Portugal for they not going to give a Visa to a their own National and If I use the Portuguesese Passport she will have a diferent name from the one on her Thai birth certificate. Any ideas about what can be done??

Tks

They aren't going to ask for the birth certificate at departure are they ? Keep a copy of the birth certificate and Thai passport in your hand luggage just in case. If they do ask, explain that it is the way authorities do it in your country.

Jokinha,

It shouldn't be a problem at immigration.

I have two birth certificates, one Australian, and one Thai. The Thai one is slightly different to my Australian one. As such my Thai and Australian passports differ in names too.

For example,

Australian Birth certificate (and Passport) says: Joe Thomas Bloggs.

Thai Birth Certificate (and Passport) says: Joe Samran Thomas Bloggs.

Obviously, the first and last names I have given here aren't my real names.

As long as your daughter leaves and enters Thailand on her Thai passport, and enters and leaves Portugal (or anywhere else) on the portugese passport, no one will ask questions.

I do this all the time between Thailand (where I live) and other countries, as I travel often. Never had a problem at all.

hope this helps.

Is there a reason why you do not show them both passports and just say you want the stamp in the Thai PP? or let them make up their minds as to which pp to stamp?

This will be affecting me soon too!

Just curious.

My wife has Thai and Aussie citizenship.Her name in Aussie is different from her name in Thailand.Never been an issue.

My wife has Thai and Aussie citizenship.Her name in Aussie is different from her name in Thailand.Never been an issue.

Never will be. .

Is there a reason why you do not show them both passports and just say you want the stamp in the Thai PP? or let them make up their minds as to which pp to stamp?

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No particular reason, except you don't want to confuse people. While dual nationality is legal, you still run into Thai civil servants who think it isn't and that creates a tonne of hassel.

With Thai immigration, I only show my Thai passport when entering and leaving Thailand. After all, I am a Thai citizen.

When entering and leaving other nations, I mainly use my Australian passport, as I don't require a visa to enter 90% of countries.

The only people I suggest you show both passports to are the airline check in people at BKK international airport. Airlines have the responsibity to ensure that travellers are allowed to enter their destination country. So if I only showed my Thai passport to them, they will inevitably look for a visa for the country I am travelling to and wouldn't let me board without a visa. If I show them both passports, they know that as an Australian passport holder, I will be allowed to enter my destination country visa free.

Samran...how can you have two passports ?? I am Aussie and if I became a Thai citizen I beleive I would lose my Aussie passport ! Another double standard maybe

Ned,

Not a double standard, just inconsistent Australian laws (until 2002).

Until 2002, dual citizenship was allowed in Australia for those who aquired their second citizenship through decent (like me through my mum). The only other way to have dual citizenship was to be an immigrant to OZ, ie be a Naturalised Australian and keep your old passport. That is why there has always been truckloads of Aussies with both Australian and European Union Passports with the immigrants who came out, their kids and sometimes their grandkids (if the grand parent was Irish) all being entitled to dual citizenship.

Prior to 2002 however, if an Australian citizen (naturalised or not) untertook any action to become a citizen of another country they would automatically have lost their aussie citizenship. Alot of people got tripped up by this, however their citizenship could be returned if they could prove "they didn't know".

Given there are now 1 million Aussies living and working overseas, both major parties supported a recommendation from many expat organisations and an Australian Citizenship council white paper which recommended all Dual Citizenship should be allowed in all situations.

The relevant act (Australian Citizenship Act 1948 - I think) was ammended by Federal Parliament in 2002. Now dual citizenship is perfectly legal in Australia.

Nevertheless, this act is not retro-active, so for instance Rupert Murdoch does not get his Aussie Passport back. It is also why they ask when you apply for a passport overseas if you applied for another citizenship (prior to 2002).

Samran...how can you have two passports ?? I am Aussie and if I became a Thai citizen I beleive I would lose my Aussie passport ! Another double standard maybe

Not at all....Samran's is a birthright passport....from both countries. For you to take on a Thai passport, you may have to renounce your birthright passport to take on a new one.

Until 2002, dual citizenship was allowed in Australia for those who aquired their second citizenship through decent (like me through my mum). The only other way to have dual citizenship was to be an immigrant to OZ, ie be a Naturalised Australian and keep your old passport. That is why there has always been truckloads of Aussies with both Australian and European Union Passports with the immigrants who came out, their kids and sometimes their grandkids (if the grand parent was Irish) all being entitled to dual citizenship.

I don't know much about immigration, but this is true as I've got dual citizenship. My parents are both from eastern europe, but I was born in oz so have two passports.