Young Thai Offenders At A Home For Boys

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Young offenders at a home for boys

By Mayuree Sukyingcharoenwong

The Nation

To tackle crimes increasing committed by young and underage offenders, three government agencies are joining hands to launch a project to thoroughly study their motives and behavioural patterns while working out better measures for probation and rehabilitation.

The project would for the first time identify the risk factors leading youths to eventually commit crimes and improve post-sentencing processing to ensure they would be reformed in the long run, a press conference was told on Wednesday.

Under the current system implemented by the Juvenile Observation and Protection Department, there are no standard criteria to identify the motives and types of offenders, resulting in rehabilitation not being carried out accurately to correct their behaviour effectively, said Thawatchai Thaikheo, director-general of the department.

Measures from other agencies should also be integrated and implemented under the same standard and criteria to ensure full effectiveness of the entire process. A new identification system can help tailor rehabilitation for offenders on a case-by-case basis.

In the last of the three phases, the entire mechanism will be alternatively processed through computerised implementation with details of progress and the profiles of the offenders stored in a central database.

"This will be the first time when the accuracy and effectiveness rates of each case are evaluated, processed and supervised as computerised, statistical indicators," he said.

According to a department record, young offenders have increased by 41.3 per cent in the past 10 years, or 51,128 cases in 2007 compared to 30,668 in 1997. Among all cases, 13 per cent were committed by repeat offenders.

Under the sponsorship and support of the ThaiHealth Promotion Foundation, the department is now drafting the criteria and measures with the Probation Department - also under the Justice Ministry - and the Rabibhadanasak Judicial Research Institute under the Court of Justice in a three-year project that began last year.

Thawatchai said the foundation's sponsorship had helped make budgetary management and the funding of this project much easier. The project will be assessed in a pilot run from May-December at three juvenile homes in Bangkok, Ubon Ratchathani and Si Sa Ket.

Kannikar Saengthong, deputy director-general of the department, said the adoption of case managers assigned to handle each case could ensure greater efficiency. Case managers would be chosen from 10,000 volunteers who complete in-house training.

Sunthareeya Muenwong, a senior judge representing the institute, said the judiciary's involvement in the post-sentencing measures could help ensure that the offenders, their families and communities would be equally rehabilitated and compensated under this project.

-- The Nation 2011-04-22

[scorecard]

Perhaps their motive and therefore their attitude is a product of lack of education, lack of understanding of how the big world operates, lack of opportunity, lack of parental guidance (especially where the parents are working 7 days a week in a distant location), seeing massive corruption all round them conducted by powerful people who everbody gives the big wai to, most of which could be addressed by building and implementing an equal opportunity policy for education and for work opportunities, and political leaders (and more) being the role models for values and morals. encouraging .

Plus, maybe they feel disenfranchised and unfairly treated by the 'system' when they see basically no action / no encaseration for a 16 year old hiso girl who caused 9 deaths by her reckless driving without a licence, and basically no action in regard to a young man who stole his fathers expensive fast car and with totally irreseonsible driving cut a young girl in two.

[geriatrickid]

Perhaps their motive is not too complex? They make stupid choices. The society they live in is not as permissive and as tolerant as it once was.

[EarthAlien]

Perhaps their motive and therefore their attitude is a product of lack of education, lack of understanding of how the big world operates, lack of opportunity, lack of parental guidance (especially where the parents are working 7 days a week in a distant location), seeing massive corruption all round them conducted by powerful people who everbody gives the big wai to, most of which could be addressed by building and implementing an equal opportunity policy for education and for work opportunities, and political leaders (and more) being the role models for values and morals. encouraging .

Plus, maybe they feel disenfranchised and unfairly treated by the 'system' when they see basically no action / no encaseration for a 16 year old hiso girl who caused 9 deaths by her reckless driving without a licence, and basically no action in regard to a young man who stole his fathers expensive fast car and with totally irreseonsible driving cut a young girl in two.

Excellent observations. I concur 100%

[Junglejumbo]

I don't think that these young men spend a lot of time thinking about the "unfair" car accidents involving the girl and the van or the speeding Porsche, nor consider it any more unfair than anyone else (we don't all go around committing crimes as a consequence).

I think it's more about lifestyle and crime is inbred. Most of these people are born in the slums and have no money. It's their way of life. Nobody gives them a chance either. They have rough up bringings and they probably don't trust anyone. Jail or places for young offenders may also not be much of a deterrant as at least they get free food and some chance to make friends which young people value highly.

[housepainter]

Despite the non-sequiter gibberish of the opening sentence I ploughed through this article like a determined mole. Hence, I went in blind and came out blind.

Learning nothing, a bit like the Thais themselves, I wondered why they don't just read the research of first world countries and then adopt the same measures. As nothing works anywhere why try to fix it? But they do in their misguided , flavour of the month, must be seen to do something, make the right noise behaviour.

We all know what the problem is amongst Thais, if I am to be serious, examine the under lying poverty balanced against the Thai adoration of wealth by any means. And add to that mix the number of lawless, all powerful brats who step from daddies suped-up sports car, Porsche lately, merc formerly, to commit crimes without fear of punishment.

Finally, add this all embracing, one size fits all, catch all phrase of parental love that produces spoiled, soiled brats who have a life with out restraint. Where does a tot go from running riot in a shopping mall, ruining a quiet meal in a restaurant or simply using Big C as its paly ground when the parents are shopping?

It's not onto making a worhtwhile contribution to society. It's not going to be free from ADD and tantrums on an full blown adult scale. Hence we have kids with rage. Undiluted blazing rage tripped by the treading on one's foot? Son of Chalerm. You know the one who settles his problems by blowing out a Sergeant's brains. Where was daddy when he was a youth pulling the wings off birds and balls off dogs?

No doubt it was just seen as child's play then.

The rage amongst Thais when they lose it is frightenning. If they fight - you know, fist fight, punch up, school gates, fracas, dust down, 99, that we all grew up with - Thais fight to the death. The death. Over a name calling, a negative comment, a chatisement.

That is a Thai character trait. Welcome to Thailand. land of the Psychos. And they come in groups of 6 upwards. Especially when attacking farangs. An inherent cowardice being a pre-requirement before entry into manhood. Tha's Thai manhood, can't be defined due to effeminate nature, a lack of body hair signifying inherent gender confusion, a bi-sexual preference, an inbuilt abandonment of wife and child and a desire not to work but live off the wife; preferably having her work as a prostitute.

Until you address the wrongs in Thai adult society by re-education [ education in Thailand! ] or by circumventing parental negative influence, this circle will continue. As it has. As it does. As it will.

Thai people remain a powerless, voiceless, uneducated, ignorant mass incapable of improving their lot. Thai society is divided along the lines of powerful elitist groups who oppose each other and carry sway in numbers. Numbers not made of their own but of the disenfranchised I spoke of earier. namely the rural poor.

They are a neglected uncared for group that remain on the edges of society; always have and always will. They represent 90 percent of the population and exist on the poverty line.

The social ills are not a concern of the social elite, its power brokers or its government. When you can buy justice you can avoid accountability or responsisbility. The poor can not. The prisons and detention centres are full with the under priviledged. The elite do not dwell there. Ergo, understanding where youth falters is not a priority as the quicjk fix, circumvent the system is the poreferred option for the wealthy.

Nothing will change. It never does. Hot air and column inches this week before 'next' next week.

Next.

[Guest]

Youth are impetuous and do stupid things. Its the same in any other country.

[sirchai]

Thawatchai said the foundation's sponsorship had helped make budgetary management and the funding of this project much easier. The project will be assessed in a pilot run from May-December at three juvenile homes in Bangkok, Ubon Ratchathani and Si Sa Ket.

Kannikar Saengthong, deputy director-general of the department, said the adoption of case managers assigned to handle each case could ensure greater efficiency. Case managers would be chosen from 10,000 volunteers who complete in-house training.

Case managers to ensure greater efficiency? I live in one mentioned province for almost one decade and I guess it's just a pilot run as this article says.

I'm wondering if those who pass the in-house training understand the out- door situation. It's already clear that not many people will have the chance to make some money, the rich ones will get the jobs. And do they really care? I doubt it. Another hub of social lies? :jap:

[slapout]

If the latest figures for cases they are using is 2007, I hope they can keep more current on the present projects.

Many of these juvenile malcontents have had the opportunity to get away from the bad influence of their home by living with grandparents, other extended family, go into the temple, work at some menial job, etc. They still get in trouble with the law as they envy what others have and have no legal means of getting it.

Until you can teach them a trade from which they can earn a decent living, the majority will return to their illegal quest for the good things in life, when they are released back into society. when menial labor wages are such that 3 or 4 have to live together in squalor conditions just to be able to have shelter and bare essentials, what hope can they have for making a living legally?

[selftaopath]

Perhaps their motive and therefore their attitude is a product of lack of education, lack of understanding of how the big world operates, lack of opportunity, lack of parental guidance (especially where the parents are working 7 days a week in a distant location), seeing massive corruption all round them conducted by powerful people who everbody gives the big wai to, most of which could be addressed by building and implementing an equal opportunity policy for education and for work opportunities, and political leaders (and more) being the role models for values and morals. encouraging .

Plus, maybe they feel disenfranchised and unfairly treated by the 'system' when they see basically no action / no encaseration for a 16 year old hiso girl who caused 9 deaths by her reckless driving without a licence, and basically no action in regard to a young man who stole his fathers expensive fast car and with totally irreseonsible driving cut a young girl in two.

Thank you for your post. It would be helpful if post like yours were understood by the organized criminals e.g. politicians etc.

Upon reading the article I could not help but think these lads are building their credentials to become the BIB of the future.

Thailand will not change for at least 100 years. and then still be 150 years behind many other countries.

[cdnvic]

Several posts removed. Two with badly mangled quotes that made it impossible to read who said what. One that was over the top in it's insulting of Thais, and a few that quoted it.

[selftaopath]

Despite the non-sequiter gibberish of the opening sentence I ploughed through this article like a determined mole. Hence, I went in blind and came out blind.

Learning nothing, a bit like the Thais themselves, I wondered why they don't just read the research of first world countries and then adopt the same measures. As nothing works anywhere why try to fix it? But they do in their misguided , flavour of the month, must be seen to do something, make the right noise behaviour.

We all know what the problem is amongst Thais, if I am to be serious, examine the under lying poverty balanced against the Thai adoration of wealth by any means. And add to that mix the number of lawless, all powerful brats who step from daddies suped-up sports car, Porsche lately, merc formerly, to commit crimes without fear of punishment.

Finally, add this all embracing, one size fits all, catch all phrase of parental love that produces spoiled, soiled brats who have a life with out restraint. Where does a tot go from running riot in a shopping mall, ruining a quiet meal in a restaurant or simply using Big C as its paly ground when the parents are shopping?

It's not onto making a worhtwhile contribution to society. It's not going to be free from ADD and tantrums on an full blown adult scale. Hence we have kids with rage. Undiluted blazing rage tripped by the treading on one's foot? Son of Chalerm. You know the one who settles his problems by blowing out a Sergeant's brains. Where was daddy when he was a youth pulling the wings off birds and balls off dogs?

No doubt it was just seen as child's play then.

The rage amongst Thais when they lose it is frightenning. If they fight - you know, fist fight, punch up, school gates, fracas, dust down, 99, that we all grew up with - Thais fight to the death. The death. Over a name calling, a negative comment, a chatisement.

That is a Thai character trait. Welcome to Thailand. land of the Psychos. And they come in groups of 6 upwards. Especially when attacking farangs. An inherent cowardice being a pre-requirement before entry into manhood. Tha's Thai manhood, can't be defined due to effeminate nature, a lack of body hair signifying inherent gender confusion, a bi-sexual preference, an inbuilt abandonment of wife and child and a desire not to work but live off the wife; preferably having her work as a prostitute.

Until you address the wrongs in Thai adult society by re-education [ education in Thailand! ] or by circumventing parental negative influence, this circle will continue. As it has. As it does. As it will.

Thai people remain a powerless, voiceless, uneducated, ignorant mass incapable of improving their lot. Thai society is divided along the lines of powerful elitist groups who oppose each other and carry sway in numbers. Numbers not made of their own but of the disenfranchised I spoke of earier. namely the rural poor.

They are a neglected uncared for group that remain on the edges of society; always have and always will. They represent 90 percent of the population and exist on the poverty line.

The social ills are not a concern of the social elite, its power brokers or its government. When you can buy justice you can avoid accountability or responsisbility. The poor can not. The prisons and detention centres are full with the under priviledged. The elite do not dwell there. Ergo, understanding where youth falters is not a priority as the quicjk fix, circumvent the system is the poreferred option for the wealthy.

Nothing will change. It never does. Hot air and column inches this week before 'next' next week.

Next.

Housepainter, thanks. I agree with you ENTIRELY. Thailand is great at talk/bs/hot air etc. Typically no Thai, and especially the rich/powerful, has actions that correspond with their words. What a pathetic approach to living and to think that they largely claim to be good "buddhists." LOLOLLLOOLLOO

[Mitker]

Perhaps their motive and therefore their attitude is a product of lack of education, lack of understanding of how the big world operates, lack of opportunity, lack of parental guidance (especially where the parents are working 7 days a week in a distant location), seeing massive corruption all round them conducted by powerful people who everbody gives the big wai to, most of which could be addressed by building and implementing an equal opportunity policy for education and for work opportunities, and political leaders (and more) being the role models for values and morals. encouraging .

Plus, maybe they feel disenfranchised and unfairly treated by the 'system' when they see basically no action / no encaseration for a 16 year old hiso girl who caused 9 deaths by her reckless driving without a licence, and basically no action in regard to a young man who stole his fathers expensive fast car and with totally irreseonsible driving cut a young girl in two.

Quite right.