webfact Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Students hurt in bomb attack By The Nation Three technical college students were injured when students from a rival school threw a homemade bomb at them while they rode a bus to school in Samut Prakan's Bang Sao Thong district yesterday morning. Police said the attack happened on a route 133 bus when it stopped at a bus stop in Bang Plee Muang Mai. They said about 20 students from Kanchanapisek Technical School were riding the bus to school when one of about 20 students from Krungthep Technology School at the bus stop threw a homemade bomb onto the bus. It failed to detonate straight away. But it exploded when Ekkaluck Sinual, 18, grabbed the bomb and tried to throw it back. He lost his right hand. Shrapnel from the bomb also injured Wiwat Putnor, 18, and Wirawat Torsup, 18. Kanchanapisek Technical School deputy director Aniruth Hemathurin said the college had tried to prevent student brawls in various places after the school term started two days ago. Police have interviewed students and bus passengers in a bid to find the culprit. -- The Nation 2011-05-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Lost his hand... ********uck!!!! So they've gone up from guns to bombs. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisico Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Lost his hand... ********uck!!!! So they've gone up from guns to bombs. Brilliant. ...and that is happening in a peace loving, "smiling" Buddhist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejonesbkk Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah this is pretty nuts, why exactly do these tech college guys hate each other? It was the same when I lived in Korat years ago, they would beat each other senseless, fighting I can understand but bombs? Thats like Northern Ireland s**t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. Edited May 20, 2011 by ginjag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkin2012 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. station 'em in those 3 southern provinces. my suggestion........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. station 'em in those 3 southern provinces. my suggestion........... Yes--and make them walk there :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow86 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 OMB. That's crazy! These little buggers are getting serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rreddin Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. station 'em in those 3 southern provinces. my suggestion........... There are two aspects to resolving this problem. The first is the police enquiry that leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible. The list of suspects cannot be very long, The second aspect is the difficult bit - getting these two schools (teachers and students) to direct the rivalry between them into postive and constructive channels. The threat of closure should focus their minds on the task in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Young men in this age group are a problem nearly everywhere. In Thailand, the problem is exacerbated by the social situation in which the group to which you belong becomes singularly important. Students stay with the same class throughout their studying and moving them around is more traumatic than in Western culture. In politics and government you see the same thing. There is preference given by politicians to people who attended the same school and even higher status to those who graduated int he same year, even though they may not know each other. Until there is a more fluid social and educational system, these problems will persist. It's a matter of degrees, however, and playing it out on a football field is better than a shooting or bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryranger Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 ...and that is happening in a peace loving, "smiling" Buddhist country. "In God We Trust" do you think every one in this country trusts in God? This is a never ending story...really. Thai Laws are *&$#^&$^(@$%%_*@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriouseats Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 sad thing is, all of these school are terrible.. At least fight over something good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. station 'em in those 3 southern provinces. my suggestion........... There are two aspects to resolving this problem. The first is the police enquiry that leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible. The list of suspects cannot be very long, The second aspect is the difficult bit - getting these two schools (teachers and students) to direct the rivalry between them into postive and constructive channels. The threat of closure should focus their minds on the task in hand. Here's 2 aspects for you. 1) when caught, and found guilty, deposit them in one of the 3 provinces down south, and let them play with the big boys. 2) incarcerate their parents for a few years, and force them after they get out, to pay restitution. Make that law, and broadcast on all media, and see how fast parents take control of their future criminal offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Lost his hand... ********uck!!!! So they've gone up from guns to bombs. Brilliant. ...and that is happening in a peace loving, "smiling" Buddhist country. A statement like that, is beyond simplistic. It is childish in it's naivety. Surely Thailand has less violent crime than most countries. We are all watching with concern, as there are more and more incidents like this one. It appears that the youth culture is alot less peaceful than their parents. Of course one could argue that this is a worldwide phenomenon. Drugs may be part of the problem. What does Buddhism have to do with it? Because a country is Buddhist, the people are supposed to be the embodiment of perfection? What kind of foolishness is this? Where does a statement like that come from? Do you hate Buddhists? I have found the vast majority of them to be delightful people. Do you hold Christians to the same standard? They are peace loving people. So they have some criminals, and some hooligans. Does that implicate the entire population? Please consider your words before defiling an entire people with silly chatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 My suggestion - use their "class loyalty" to stop this behaviour. If any student in any given class is involved in inter-school violence, then every student in that class is expelled, no exceptions. The onus then is for the students to police themselves, either by reporting other students discussing/planning such actions, or by the students themselves taking appropriate action to discourage it. Any person who would throw a bomb into a bus has to have serious psychological problems - to do it for the honour of your school beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. I have seen reports of gang fights between technical college students in Bangkok from the 70s when home made pen guns were already being turned out in the school metal workshops. Not sure if you were here then but the problem must date from the 60s or late 50s when technical colleges started to proliferate. Thailand has a system of streaming whereby kids not deemed to be university material, i.e. mainly those from poor families, are bundled off to technical schools after finishing Mor 3. Take a bunch of underprivileged adolescents, mark them as failures and send them to the worst schools with the worst teachers. Give them access to materials and workshops to make their own home made guns and ping pong bombs. Combine that with a corrupt, incompetent police force that only cares about making money and guess what you get. My brother-in-law's best friend was shot in the head and killed with a pen gun in broad daylight whilst walking on Sukhumvit Road a stone's throw from a police station. The murderer, a delinquent technical school student, who killed him because he thought he was a student at a rival school, turned out to be the son of a local police constable. Despite an immediate arrest and confession, the suspect was mysteriously released within days and back on the streets threatening other kids. Although they had both a confession and a large number of witnesses, the police decided not to press charges and threatened to murder the victim's father instead, if he didn't stop pestering them about justice for his only son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonerone Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Lost his hand... ********uck!!!! So they've gone up from guns to bombs. Brilliant. ...and that is happening in a peace loving, "smiling" Buddhist country. A statement like that, is beyond simplistic. It is childish in it's naivety. Surely Thailand has less violent crime than most countries. We are all watching with concern, as there are more and more incidents like this one. It appears that the youth culture is alot less peaceful than their parents. Of course one could argue that this is a worldwide phenomenon. Drugs may be part of the problem. What does Buddhism have to do with it? Because a country is Buddhist, the people are supposed to be the embodiment of perfection? What kind of foolishness is this? Where does a statement like that come from? Do you hate Buddhists? I have found the vast majority of them to be delightful people. Do you hold Christians to the same standard? They are peace loving people. So they have some criminals, and some hooligans. Does that implicate the entire population? Please consider your words before defiling an entire people with silly chatter. oh dear some one got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiwill60 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 This reply just about sums up everything wrong with Thailand today in my reckoning. This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. I have seen reports of gang fights between technical college students in Bangkok from the 70s when home made pen guns were already being turned out in the school metal workshops. Not sure if you were here then but the problem must date from the 60s or late 50s when technical colleges started to proliferate. Thailand has a system of streaming whereby kids not deemed to be university material, i.e. mainly those from poor families, are bundled off to technical schools after finishing Mor 3. Take a bunch of underprivileged adolescents, mark them as failures and send them to the worst schools with the worst teachers. Give them access to materials and workshops to make their own home made guns and ping pong bombs. Combine that with a corrupt, incompetent police force that only cares about making money and guess what you get. My brother-in-law's best friend was shot in the head and killed with a pen gun in broad daylight whilst walking on Sukhumvit Road a stone's throw from a police station. The murderer, a delinquent technical school student, who killed him because he thought he was a student at a rival school, turned out to be the son of a local police constable. Despite an immediate arrest and confession, the suspect was mysteriously released within days and back on the streets threatening other kids. Although they had both a confession and a large number of witnesses, the police decided not to press charges and threatened to murder the victim's father instead, if he didn't stop pestering them about justice for his only son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnefallis Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. They clearly didn't pass the requirements to get past kindergarten, they shouldn't be in technical school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxteen Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Sad this still happen in Thailand,hope they get caught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSmurf Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 They are just copying what is accepted practise here in Thailand.Taught to them by their eldets and peers. .You don't believe me then how is it that the Red Shirts and Yellow shirys got away with it...TIT....3 rd world democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liamog Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) Yeah this is pretty nuts, why exactly do these tech college guys hate each other? It was the same when I lived in Korat years ago, they would beat each other senseless, fighting I can understand but bombs? Thats like Northern Ireland s**t! I have never heard of school students in Northern Ireland throwing bombs at each other. Nor shooting each other. School gangs attacking each other? Sounds more like our less civilised neighbours in the UK Edited May 20, 2011 by liamog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbeam1 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Not so dissimilar than West Side Story. Rebel Without a Cause Maybe?? jb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbeam1 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yeah this is pretty nuts, why exactly do these tech college guys hate each other? It was the same when I lived in Korat years ago, they would beat each other senseless, fighting I can understand but bombs? Thats like Northern Ireland s**t! I have never heard of school students in Northern Ireland throwing bombs at each other. Nor shooting each other. School gangs attacking each other? Sounds more like our less civilised neighbours in the UK Perhaps you would like to offer us more on your insight. jb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thailand is a nation of tribal warfare, mistakenly called politics, why should the youth be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Lost his hand... ********uck!!!! So they've gone up from guns to bombs. Brilliant. ...and that is happening in a peace loving, "smiling" Buddhist country. You should see what's going on in the lower northeast. But watching Thai soap operas from earliest childhood on could be an answer why they behave like they behave..........:jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 and its supposed to be the intelligent ones that make it this far in the education system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The Technical college in Chonburi was closed about 3pm today and a little further up the road were about 4 coaches driving in convoy with 4 police pick ups as an escort. Is this linked or am I putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 What is it with technical colleges, does anyone know? This has been going on as long as I have lived in Thailand. School rivals--it's past a joke, have these got any parents????? Home made bombs powerful to blow a hand off. I agree with you, unless someone( teacher) in the know we have to assume many things Jealousy =upmanship =lower and upper class schools-state or private?- this cannot fall back on education-only............To my mind the biggest problem starts at home, discipline, knowing right from wrong, these spoilt brats want more than a ticking off, and parents have to take the blame for minors. HURT---one lost his hand--maimed should have read. "parents have to take the blame"! Nice try. That is not going happen, not here. If they did, they would, in their eyes, lose face as it would show they had failed in upbringing their offsprings. And taking the responsibility for anything they do here, is not in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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