Pheu Thai Party Urges Rival Democrats To Campaign Constructively

[Lite Beer]

Pheu Thai Party urges rival Democrats to campaign constructively

BANGKOK, June 19 -- Yingluck Shinawatra, the number one party-list candidate under Pheu Thai Party on Sunday said she was not concerned that the party's main rival, the Democrat Party, had planned to campaign at Bangkok's Ratchaprasong intersection, urging that the Democrats should conduct their campaign in a constructive manner.

Asked what she thought about the Democrat Party changing its election campaign site from near city hall to the Ratchaprasong intersection, a prime business area in the capital, Miss Yingluck said it is a campaign strategy of each political party and she personally wanted to see campaigns conducted in constructive way.

The incumbent Democrat Party said yesterday that it would hold a major election campaign this Thursday at Ratchaprasong intersection.

Miss Yingluck said she is not worried that this week's campaign by the Democrat Party at Ratchaprasong area would affect her party's votes in the election because voters are the one who decide which party they want to govern the country.

UDD members are supporters of Pheu Thai Party.

As the general election is approaching, the People Network for Election in Thailand (P-NET) is organising a debate in which leaders of political parties contesting in the election are invited to participate.

Citing Miss Yingluck's tight schedule, Pheu Thai Party has decided to send Olarn Chaiprawat, former deputy prime minister and ex-chief of Siam Commercial Bank, to attend the debate on behalf of the party.

But P-NET said Mr Olarn could not make any promises to the public on behalf of the party and refused to accept him as representative. Miss Yingluck, however, said Mr Olarn is a member of her party's economic team and is also an executive member so he is therefore a suitable person to speak for her party.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, leader of the Democrat Party, today held an election campaign in Bangkok's neighbouring province of Samut Prakan. During his journey to the province, UDD members held up placards criticising his ruling coalition government for its performance.

No violence was reported as policemen lined the streets and provided security for Mr Abhisit and his entourage who were travelling in cars.

Mr Abhisit later spoke for about 20 minutes at a market in the province. He explained his party's policy and ways to solve rising commodity prices.

The prime minister also urged voters to cast votes for his party's candidates so that his party could form a government after the election and continue working on projects which are still pending. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2011-06-19

[Jingthing]

Too busy to debate? Well, that's a lie, obviously. She probably feels she is ahead and has nothing to gain from a debate and everything to lose. However, if Thailand had a strong democracy, which of course it doesn't, the people would punish her for not being man enough to face the heat of talking about real issues in a debate format with her major opposition. But its politically smart to avoid it given the context of Thailand and it's superficiality. Smile!

Edited June 19, 2011 by Jingthing

[mrtoad]

She's hardly going tp want the Democrats to start reminding the electorate just who her party is run by and what it's all about. As for the debate, she never had any intention of going up against Abhisit - far too much to lose, just as cowardly as her bother. Edited June 19, 2011 by mrtoad

[Jingthing]

I agree, she was probably never going to do it. However, perhaps she would have considered it if her polling position was much weaker and it seemed like there was nothing to lose because she had already lost it anyway. It's normal for people to avoid debates if they can't benefit from them, but it's also normal for voters to not be impressed with candidates afraid to face the heat. From my perspective, I see nothing in her that shows she will be a strong leader, and avoiding a debate reinforces my doubt.

[animatic]

"Constructively"

being code for not telling the truth about her fellow Party List candidates from the Red Shirt Leadership.

Oh gee, don't remind people of what horrible things they did last year,

you might Deconstruct the PTP party election chances.

Yes and in a debate this topic would come up for sure:

So, Ms Yinluck did you support the Red Shirts rally blocking

all people from doing their jobs much of bangkok for 2 month?

And if not, why can you share a party list with them?

Edited June 19, 2011 by animatic

[lungmi]

"Constructively"

being code for not telling the truth about her fellow Party List candidates from the Red Shirt Leadership.

Oh gee, don't remind people of what horrible things they did last year,

you might Deconstruct the PTP party election chances.

Yes and in a debate this topic would come up for sure:

So, Ms Yinluck did you support the Red Shirts rally blocking

all people from doing their jobs much of bangkok for 2 month?

And if not, why can you share a party list with them?

You are too strong with her. She his the misused younger sister of her brother. She will have a burn down syndrom at the end and will be happy to come home and play football with her son on the super playground she made.

Edited June 19, 2011 by lungmi

[virtualtraveller]

Gosh, if there's one thing you can bet on with PTP/UDD is they are outright hypocrites!

What's constructive about letting everyone off the hook, so you can free you brother.

What's constructive about putting firebrand UDD leaders, who instigated the burning of Bangkok, high on your Party List - confirming you are rewarding them.

What's constructive about all the Abhisit posters nationwide that have been defaced in a systematic campaign.

What's constructive about refusing to debate the issues facing a novice PM candidate.

[Buchholz]

Yingluck's debate stand-in, Olarn, just a got of dose how disorganized their Party is when he got rejected by the debate organizers.

He looks like he feels shafted by the ineptitude of his Pheu Thai Party,

but I think that he's gesturing here over a different issue.

Edited June 19, 2011 by Buchholz

[maewrocks]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

[lungmi]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Who paid Nida?

[whybother]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Where is it out?

[Buchholz]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

Heaven forbid we would doubt the veracity of your posting, but, frankly, without a news source and a link, it's completely worthless.

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Edited June 19, 2011 by Buchholz

[lannarebirth]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

Heaven forbid we would doubt the veracity of your posting, but, frankly, without a news source and a link, it's completely worthless.

.

12:03 PM BP Breaking News

[jonclark]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

Heaven forbid we would doubt the veracity of your posting, but, frankly, without a news source and a link, it's completely worthless.

.

12:03 PM BP Breaking News

Man, BJP and all the other 'minor parties must be pissed - no one single vote from 103'000 people !!!

[Buchholz]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

Heaven forbid we would doubt the veracity of your posting, but, frankly, without a news source and a link, it's completely worthless.

12:03 PM BP Breaking News

Thank you for that.

Not unexpectedly, maewrocks, in addition to not describing the requisite source also managed to post the results erroneously.

Probably best to leave the news postings to others, maewrocks, at least until you can get a handle on things.

.

Edited June 19, 2011 by Buchholz

[SkyHigh]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Where is it out?

http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/home/detail/politics/politics/20110619/396164/ดุสิตโพลล์รอบ-3-ปาร์ตี้ลิสต์พท.ยังแรงถึง-51.55.html

Hope you can read Thai.

[whybother]

Interesting that within a week, it's gone from 44% undecided to 2% undecided.

[warfie]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Is it just me or is there 12.56% missing from these results?

[whybother]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Is it just me or is there 12.56% missing from these results?

They voted for "others".

[TAWP]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Is it just me or is there 12.56% missing from these results?

They voted for "others".

Anyone actually believes that ratio?

That dems would remain pretty much un-changed from 2007 election-results but that all other parties would be losing heavily to PT?

Something is not right...

[animatic]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

Is it just me or is there 12.56% missing from these results?

How about 18.5% undecided?

or at least 20% is voting others.

it took 2 weeks to do the poll and this includes the New Candidate bounce.

But it is still subject to HOW and Where they polled it,

and even with 103,000 it is subject to manipulation.

And the question is still there.

WHo commissioned and financed this poll?

Edited June 19, 2011 by animatic

[whybother]

How about 18.5% undecided?

or at least 20% is voting others.

it took 2 weeks to do the poll and this includes the New Candidate bounce.

But it is still subject to HOW and Where they polled it,

and even with 103,000 it is subject to manipulation.

And the question is still there.

WHo commissioned and financed this poll?

It's a Suan Dusit poll conducted from 4-18 June over ALL 375 provinces of 102,944 people for the party list votes.

Country wide (102,944 people): PTP - 51.55%, Dem 34.04%, 2.38% are undecided.

Bangkok only (10,964 people): PTP - 52.05%, Dem 34.15%, 1.85% are undecided.

(missing %'ages are for "others")

So they asked, on average, 275 people per constituency. 334 people per constituency in Bangkok (meaning 269 people per constituency outside Bangkok).

[whybother]

A poll in Bangkok between 2-9 June had 44% undecided (), in about a week 42% of them have made up their minds.

[lungmi]

A poll in Bangkok between 2-9 June had 44% undecided (http://www.thaivisa....s-opinion-poll/), in about a week 42% of them have made up their minds.

A poll with 130000 asked people is unprofessional. It's the number the canvassers gave them?

[maewrocks]

Oh..the numbers are wrong I see....Should've known that the Democrats are the most popular party in the country. Should've known that the people love Abhisit & hate the 'fugitive criminal'. Hahaha... the gloating is only 2 weeks away & it will be sweet.

[geriatrickid]

A poll in Bangkok between 2-9 June had 44% undecided (http://www.thaivisa....s-opinion-poll/), in about a week 42% of them have made up their minds.

A poll with 130000 asked people is unprofessional. It's the number the canvassers gave them?

How is a poll with a sample size of 103,000 unprofessional? The larger the sample size, the more reliable the results. The Dusit poll in question had a much larger sample size when compared to other polls;

The conventional wisdom is that Thai election polls are reliable for +/-7points.

DUSITPOLL (Suan DusitRajabhat University, Bangkok)

A May 22 poll of 3,584 respondentsshowed 41.2 percent backed Puea Thai, with 36.9 percent for the Democrat Party.The medium-sized Bhumjai Thai and Chart Thai Pattana scored just 3.9 and 3.2percent respectively, with six percent undecided.

BANGKOK POLL

Its survey released on May 23 put Puea Thai as the favorites to win in Bangkok,with 25.8 percent, ahead of the Democrats at 14.7 percent in their stronghold.However, 52 percent of the 1,178respondents were undecided.

ABAC POLL(Assumption University, Bangkok)

ABAC's May 22 survey centered on a variety of leadership qualities of Prime MinisterAbhisit Vejjajiva of the Democrats and Puea Thai's prime ministerial candidate,Yingluck Shinawatra. The poll of 2,300respondents showed views of Abhisit's leadership was on the declinecompared to previous months, with Yingluck's overall rating climbing.

Source: Reuters Tue Jun 7, 2011 5:18am EDT

What the polls indicate is that the support for the PTP has been growing. The question that any good political pollster will now consider is, has PTP peaked too fast? If it is an indication of a surge in support then it is likely that that the Democrats will be crushed as the momentum grows . On the other hand if PTP has peaked this early, then any drop off can undermine the support much as a wave collapses on itself.

Had the Dusit poll shown the Democrats gaining support, I expect that all of the PTP detractors would be sounding off on the poll's reliability and how it was a sign of the PTP's collapse. The Democrats cannot afford to lose Bangkok and this poll will cause them to now invest heavily in protecting their once unassailable stronghold diverting resources from the rest of the country which means that Democrat candiates that might have had a chance to win in some areas will see the resources they needed, diverted elsewhere. As for the PTP, they better not get too smug. They need to keep up the calm and steady approach and reinforce their support.

[phiphidon]

Thank you for that.

Not unexpectedly, maewrocks, in addition to not describing the requisite source also managed to post the results erroneously.

Please delete this reply Admin - For some reason my reply not being shown

Edited June 19, 2011 by phiphidon

[Ricardo]

Latest & most comprehensive poll (Nida) just out. 103,000 people surveyed across the country. PT:51.55, Dems 34.04. Undecided1.85%.

So for all you Yingluck bashers, looks like she's doing just fine!

With respect maewrocks, I think that is the result from the Suan Dusit poll of 102,994 respondents, not the Nida poll as you say ?

Edited June 20, 2011 by Ricardo

[padlin]

Yinluck is a pleasant lady and that is about it. The only reason she is where she is is because she is Thaksin's sister AND because that wise man knows it doesn't matter much what you say in canvassing as long as one looks OK. The average voter doesn't understand serious issues like economics. They swallow the bait: 300 baht a day and free laptop. And it is the votes of these simple folk that wins elections.

Even from half a world away Thaksin knows how to reel 'em in.

Abhisit is a gentleman and a genius ... gents and genii do not win elections ... good guys end last.

Voters get what they vote for so ... back with the conman.