philw Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thanks to his good ties with leading business and political figures in many countries, plus his wide experience, Thaksin could prove helpful to a new government in promoting Thailand's interests in trade talks, the source said. "In this position, he does not need to be directly involved with politics. He also will have the opportunity to travel freely to many countries," the source added. Thai government may appoint foreign lobbyist who just happens to be a fugitive convict in his own Thailand. Must be a bit of a slap in the face for the Thai judiciary system if this happens. Leading business figures probably couldn't care less, foreign politicians may be a bit more careful to associate with k. Thaksin. Trade Ambassador Thaksin, fair and square, 'trust me' He might turn out to be quite effective in this role / position. So what's the problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thaksin's legal adviser Noppadon Pattama says Thaksin may accept trade representative post to help Yingluck /TAN_Network Noppadon denies saying Thaksin will be assuming trade representative post /TAN_Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffi Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 What's the bet when they finally get the money back they'll get interest earned paid as well. Somebody should start a countdown of "Days since a Shinawatra paid any taxes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky1982 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 By Andrew M.Marshall <snipped what the mods will probably snip> Link http://www.zenjourna.../04bangkok7313/ And what is the relevance of that? a recent telecom license deal involving Shin\'s IPStar ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 He might turn out to be quite effective in this role / position. So what's the problem ? He may very well be, but be assured his primary interest will be feathering his own /familes nest over the trade interests of Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 By Andrew M.Marshall <snipped what the mods will probably snip> Link http://www.zenjourna.../04bangkok7313/ And what is the relevance of that? a recent telecom license deal involving Shin\'s IPStar ... Maybe you can go back and edit your post, so only the relevant part is quoted. No one's going to read the whole lot, and if they want to, they can go to the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is, like, sooo brilliant. I really didn't think this satire could get any more farcical, but the charade is far from over. Shakespeare himself couldn't have done a better job of inventing the absurd. As long as we're all aware that the Yingluck Govt has a shelf life that expires shortly after Thaksin returns. Yes it is brilliant. The former PM carries alot of clout in SE Asia, particularly in China. China has the ability to assist with multiple large scale development projects such as a modernization of the state railways and highways. China can also provide much needed foreign investment funds. He is also respected by some oil rich Gulf states, states that have the ability to ensure that Thailand has access to much needed oil and petro dollars for foreign investment. Once the Chinese are on board, the Koreans and Japanese will be falling over themselves while the USA wonders how it can best ingratiate itself with a strategic country. Not to forget that the Russians are arriving in droves. There's lots of oil wealth in Russia and it needs somewhere hospitable to go. The USA and EU are hardly the most stable economies are they? ".............. The former PM carries alot of clout in SE Asia, particularly in China........." Please give some facts, evidence, whatever to prove your statement that he has a lot of clout in SE ASia. Singapore wishes they had never heard the name shinawatra. China has made it clear several years back they they would prefer he not come to China. Cambodai? Well there's a different picture. Has he resigned from his post as economic advisor to Cambodai. Conflict of Interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looping Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 So, Thaksin appoints himself with this job, is able to visit all the countries which previously banned him, on a diplomatic passport, sell a few satellites before returning the people's hero for his daughters wedding in December. He really has got it all worked out. Maybe the people of Thailand do deserve him after all. Either way, bring on the Thaksin tsunami!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is like Dictatorship 101! with a minor in nepotism What part of a majority election victory and the support of additional political parties do you not understand. The PTP has the mandate to act. The part where the majority, potentially, installs a criminal to a semiofficial position, FOR the govt! One which has a proven track record of meglomania/dictator style activites! I presume you understand the nepotism part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) It hasn't taken long for Pheu Thai to start showing their true colours and already start showing that they have no regard for the thai judiciary. I will start shortening the odds for the Army to be having to intervene in the country's politics yet again. Again, not to worry. The Thai judiciary will have a role to play. Rest assured that justice will be served once the politically inspired criminal charges and conviction are vacated. Which 'politically inspired criminal charges' ? Please also keep in mind that a 'review' is not the same as 'vacate conviction and/or charges'. That depends on the outcome of the review. ..the politically inspired criminal charges and conviction are vacated" On the land purchase he broke a specific law, laws that apply in any country and for very good reason. And as well as breaking the law, citizens of any country have every right to expect / to demand that their prime minister is the absolute role model for values and morals. he failed on all counts. Also, he railroaded a reversal of Thai owndership laws through parliament to suit his own personal desires and pocketed billions and paid no tax --- how can you call this 'politically ispired criminal charges'? Edited July 6, 2011 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 So, Thaksin appoints himself with this job, is able to visit all the countries which previously banned him, on a diplomatic passport, sell a few satellites before returning the people's hero for his daughters wedding in December. He really has got it all worked out. Maybe the people of Thailand do deserve him after all. Either way, bring on the Thaksin tsunami!!! Apparently, no diplomatic passport. Just his Montenegrin one. "If he is appointed, I believe he will be happy. He can travel to different countries by using a passport issued [previously] by Montenegro," said Noppadon, who once served as foreign minister in a Thaksin-proxy government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Well ..... I am not surprise about this . Thailand might became the joke of the trade world . Not good at all on my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Link http://www.zenjourna.../04bangkok7313/ .......and no good Chinese food delivery! <deleted> Some General Ling Lings chicken would be great right about now! ( Is someone compensating with the size of post?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 A post has been removed due to possible violation of copyright and non compliance of fair use. It is generally accepted, but not written into law, that quoting the first two or three sentences of an article and giving a link to the source is considered “fair use” and not a violation of copyright. Granted, the link was provided, however the revelant section of the article was not quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) What better job to advance the private business interests of the Shinawatra clan? All expenses paid by the Thai taxpayer. Edited July 6, 2011 by Crushdepth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) So, Thaksin appoints himself with this job, is able to visit all the countries which previously banned him, on a diplomatic passport, sell a few satellites before returning the people's hero for his daughters wedding in December. He really has got it all worked out. Maybe the people of Thailand do deserve him after all. Either way, bring on the Thaksin tsunami!!! US and UK (and more) have banned him from entry, for very specific reasons. Then suddenly he holds a diplomatic passport. As far as the US and UK (and more) are concerned nothing has changed in regard to this man, in fact there's some chance they view him (and his family and cronies) even more seriously as undesireable. No country HAS TO let someone enter just because they show a diplomatic passport. Edited July 6, 2011 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is right up there with making Tony Blair a Peace Envoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thaksin as trade envoy rumour denied By The Nation The rumour about ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra tipped for the position of Thailand trade envoy was groundless, legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said on Wednesday. "Rumour moungers wanted to cause confustion and divisiveness," he said, insisting Pheu Thai Party had not planned for a Thaksin appointment. -- The Nation 2011-07-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Rumour moungers wanted to cause confustion and divisiveness," he said He's certainly confusting me. dam_n those rumor moungers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) This is, like, sooo brilliant. I really didn't think this satire could get any more farcical, but the charade is far from over. Shakespeare himself couldn't have done a better job of inventing the absurd. As long as we're all aware that the Yingluck Govt has a shelf life that expires shortly after Thaksin returns. Yes it is brilliant. The former PM carries alot of clout in SE Asia, particularly in China. China has the ability to assist with multiple large scale development projects such as a modernization of the state railways and highways. China can also provide much needed foreign investment funds. He is also respected by some oil rich Gulf states, states that have the ability to ensure that Thailand has access to much needed oil and petro dollars for foreign investment. Once the Chinese are on board, the Koreans and Japanese will be falling over themselves while the USA wonders how it can best ingratiate itself with a strategic country. Not to forget that the Russians are arriving in droves. There's lots of oil wealth in Russia and it needs somewhere hospitable to go. The USA and EU are hardly the most stable economies are they? I doubt now the international community is going to flock to Thailand to give all of their oil dollars and foreign investment to Thailand because Thaksin is going to be the trade ambassador. Instead, I think it will degrade the faith that all of these same people you mention will have in Thailand, and do the opposite. Also, are you saying once China completes it railway project from China, through Laos, Thailand and Malaysia, then the Koreans and Japanese are magically going to start investing here? Your article makes Thailand seem dependent on China to improve it roads and infrastructure, which is pathetic. And are you also saying the USA, which has a 200 year relationship with Thailand, is going to scramble? I highly doubt it that either the USA or the EU will scramble any faster than China or any Asian, Gulf country. BTW, I would assume the American and European economies are much more stable in the long run than the Gulf states and any SE Asian economy. You seem as intelligent as a PTP supporter, are you wearing red today? And hmmm, the Russian business reputation/model is not very well respected in the world, so hooray? The US (and many other countries) impose very severe penalties on their own companies who are found to have dealings which are not 'clear'. The US (and many other countries) have banned thaksin from entry. Might just be possible that US companies (and same from other countries) would be quite wary of dealings through this man. But hey,,,maybe thaksin can establish Thailand as the world hub of blood diamonds Edited July 6, 2011 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyse Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 None of this is any more strange than the pardon of Patricia Hearst, a number of those involved in Watergate, how about those involved in the Iran-Contra scandal, the pardon of vice president Spiro Agnew who used the phrase "pusillanimous pussyfooters" and such . . . and the list goes on and on. Or how about the non-pardon of the Rosenthals and others. There is a lot of political fodder out there and I have not even touched Great Britain or any other nation yet! To me, Thaksin was a political target that they wanted "put away" so that he could not challenge them again. He may be back after his sister finishes out her time! Look forward to it . . . The beat goes on . . . la de da da dee . . . la de da da dah! . . .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is like Dictatorship 101! with a minor in nepotism What part of a majority election victory and the support of additional political parties do you not understand. The PTP has the mandate to act. What part of democracy don't you understand? or more to the point, do you only understand one part? An electoral win doesn't give a party the carte blanche right to do anything and everything they want. Even k. Thaksin understood that, being the reason he tried to stack the other branches with his family and cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Pheu Thai to hold press conference on reports that Thaksin may take up post of trade representative /TAN_Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 What better job to advance the private business interests of the Shinawatra clan? All expenses paid by the Thai taxpayer. Surely this is another great opportunity, just as when then-PM Thaksin took personal oversight of Swampy to avoid any accusations of corruption within the project, for him to announce that he's taking charge of the country's trade-deals purely to ensure that they remain totally free from any hint of back-handers or corrupt-dealings ? Thaksin as trade envoy rumour denied By The Nation The rumour about ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra tipped for the position of Thailand trade envoy was groundless, legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said on Wednesday. "Rumour moungers wanted to cause confustion and divisiveness," he said, insisting Pheu Thai Party had not planned for a Thaksin appointment. -- The Nation 2011-07-06 Pheu Thai to hold press conference on reports that Thaksin may take up post of trade representative /TAN_Network Looks like someone forgot to tell Noppadon the plan, and not for the first time, in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Thaksin as trade envoy rumour denied By The Nation The rumour about ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra tipped for the position of Thailand trade envoy was groundless, legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said on Wednesday. "Rumour moungers wanted to cause confustion and divisiveness," he said, insisting Pheu Thai Party had not planned for a Thaksin appointment. -- The Nation 2011-07-06 Of course it has been denied. Post #32 Thaksin's legal adviser Noppadon Pattama says Thaksin may accept trade representative post to help Yingluck /TAN_NetworkNoppadon denies saying Thaksin will be assuming trade representative post /TAN_Network He started the rumour, did't get the response expected, then denies it. SOP Expect much much less freedom of the press to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Did anyone notice how often this article references 'a source', without naming them? There are several different anonymous 'sources' quoted.. How often can you do that before you lose credibility as a newspaper? I think I'll bookmark this article and then use it in the future when this newspapers goes off the edge like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 It is actually a job he would do pretty well imho. Of course there are legal, political and other such impediments to the appointment and it may of course also be a bogeyman invention of which we are likely to hear many in the coming weeks as those who love telling everyone what to do and think freak out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Just as expected. A mere 3 days after winning the election they're already scrambling how to integrate Big Brother into the new power structure. And what a great advertising banner for Thailand it is: Our international trade ambassador is a self-exiled fugitive with a two-year sentence hanging over his head, and in order to carry out his mission he'll have to use the passport of another country (Montenegro). Apart from being a diplomatically unwise move, it certainly is not the right step towards "reconciliation". Not this early, not this fast, not at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevelHead Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 RUMOUR DENIED http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Thaksin-as-trade-envoy-rumour-denied-30159625.html This just shows how the INVISIBLE HANDS and LIARS are already trying to create division and detail the reconciliation process. How can these lies make their way into National Newspapers ? Yingluck should go straight on TV now and expose this and ask, on national tv, for the newspapers to reveal their sources to assist with reconciliation and expose who the liars are for the sake of the country. The country cannot move forward if the liars are going to get their stories into the papers when they have not a shred of proof. This is the disgrace of a "propaganda" war - the only way to stop it is to shame the newspapers into revealing their liar sources to the Thai people, so the Thai people can know who are the liars trying to create trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 "Trade Ambasador" Yes, that would be quite profitable for the family business interests, wouldn't it? (Irreverent question,"Does a leopard EVER change it's spots?") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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