Ms. Yingluck, Please Get Rid Of Mrs. / Miss Titling

[TigerWan]

As I've said, Japand and Korea, USA UK EU offer women the choice of Ms

SInce we ( er, they ) have a maritally ambiguous PM , NOW is the time for Ms.

I"m really not discussing Thai social status mores, but Thai sexist mores.

It's strange that any title is needed at all on ID cards. Usually passports do not have titles - they list names and gender etc. If the card needs to show married or not, then surely its easier to have a category "Married: Yes/No" - which would be much easier in use too.

There are also many other titles in use: Dr, Rev etc (most genderless) - limiting to three (MR, MRS, MISS) would indeed infer it is geneder and marital status that is required and not title.

Thank you Wolf, Another thoughtful reply

But are you not seeing that only women must declare the marital status?

I really am waiting for someone to defend this as either not sexist, or defend why this sexist practice continues?

Come back and lecture us when you understand a bit more about Thai society.

You obviously have no grasp of the concept of status and face here.

Rank these in the order a Thai would arrange them mentally in their minds on first meeting.

divorcee, married, unmarried.

[rgs2001uk]

As I've said, Japand and Korea, USA UK EU offer women the choice of Ms

SInce we ( er, they ) have a maritally ambiguous PM , NOW is the time for Ms.

I"m really not discussing Thai social status mores, but Thai sexist mores.

It's strange that any title is needed at all on ID cards. Usually passports do not have titles - they list names and gender etc. If the card needs to show married or not, then surely its easier to have a category "Married: Yes/No" - which would be much easier in use too.

There are also many other titles in use: Dr, Rev etc (most genderless) - limiting to three (MR, MRS, MISS) would indeed infer it is geneder and marital status that is required and not title.

Thank you Wolf, Another thoughtful reply

But are you not seeing that only women must declare the marital status?

I really am waiting for someone to defend this as either not sexist, or defend why this sexist practice continues?

Come back and lecture us when you understand a bit more about Thai society.

You obviously have no grasp of the concept of status and face here.

Rank these in the order a Thai would arrange them mentally in their minds on first meeting.

divorcee, married, unmarried.

นางสาว ( nang saao ) was the form of address used as I watched her taking office.

They do not have a maritally ambiguous PM, she is not legally married, if she was she would have been addressed as nang and her husbands surname, but as she is not married this would not be the proper from of address.

Look on it a a form of freedom for Thai woman, unlike the slurs that would have been cast on her is some of the so called more liberated countries.

I realy cant comment on Japan or Korea, thanks for informing us of Thai sexist mores, you are more informed than us who live here.

[TigerWan]

I live here too and have for some years. I also lived here as a child so my opinion on life and sexist values as applied to women is valid

. I find this practice sexist and I am subject to it. Change the English on official documents is what I seek, not a haul-over of Thai culture.

Your statement says it all, maybe she wanted to keep her name, so she has to say she's not married to do that? Arghhhhh !! More unfair, sexist title practices !!

....she is not legally married, if she was she would have been addressed as nang and her husbands surname, but as she is not married this would not be the proper from of address....

thanks for informing us of Thai sexist mores, you are more informed than us who live here.